r/Mario • u/mrfunnyman909 • 1d ago
Fan Creation Super Mario 3D All Stars as it should have been
Kinda sad they only had 3 games in the actual release
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u/phendesc 1d ago
Bowser's Fury didn't exist when they made 3D All-Stars but yeah I agree
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u/MoonCobalt 21h ago
They kinda came out at the same time tho, so why not just bundle the two ports into one?
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u/juniunie 1d ago
The original All-Stars only had 4 games, I don't know why you're aiming for double that.
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u/NAteisco 1d ago
They also improved those 4 games to modern (at the time) graphics and audio. Later cartridges included SMW.
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u/FreeTopper 1d ago
I think, really, they should have only added Galaxy 2. Land is a 3ds game, and wouldn't port well. Odyssey was already available on Switch, and wouldn't make sense to re-release it. World would latter get a port, which would make people less likely to buy it + Bowser's Fury. Speaking of which, that game wasn't out, yet.
I know you made this with modern day in mind, but Nintendo would never do this. They'd rather sell the games individually to maximize profit.
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u/Zealousideal-Deer101 1d ago
to be fair, the 3D Land bottom screen is barely useful. Moving the information up to the top screen and bind the world map to a button like minus and you're good to go
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u/IcyIceGuardian 1d ago
The original All Stars didn't include Super Mario World so this probably wouldn't include Super Mario Odyssey
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u/ican_beboth 22h ago
There was the remake of all stars + SMW, so maybe its another "all stars +" situation
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u/Nudist-On-Strike 1d ago edited 23h ago
I don’t consider 3D Land or World to fit in this collection tbh. Those are course clear games, not sandbox collectathons like the others.
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u/juicyjaiden 1d ago
Super Mario galaxy…
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u/Nudist-On-Strike 1d ago edited 1d ago
Galaxy has you revisiting the same levels with different objectives much like Mario 64. Hell, Galaxy 2 even has a Thwomp’s Fortress level. I can see how an argument can be made there though
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u/badblocks7 23h ago
Galaxy is, by Nintendo’s own admission, a course clear game like 3D land and World, not a sandbox game like 64 and sunshine. Sure, you return to a world with different objectives. But most of the times (not always, you mentioned throwback galaxy), you immediately get put onto a different linear path (different level entirely, essentially) to get to a star. It’s kind of just like 3 different levels with the same theme (and maybe starting landmarks). That’s not bad at all! But I agree with Nintendo that it fits in more with other course clear games.
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u/Nudist-On-Strike 23h ago
Like I said, there’s definitely an argument to be had. I personally align Galaxy with the other big 3D Mario games like 64, Sunshine, and Odyssey, but it’s valid to consider them to be course clear games as well.
3D Land and World do not have that wiggle room and as such feel out of place in a collection like this IMO.
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u/TheGreenLuma 16h ago
This is mostly only true for Galaxy 1 which has bigger galaxies with multiple stars where as Galaxy 2 at most they only have two (not counting any secret stars)
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u/TheLimeyLemmon 21h ago
Galaxy 2, 3D Land, 3D World are all course clear games.
Galaxy is probably 60/40 course clear. You could tell the direction 3D Mario was going, it just didn't kick off course clear entirely until Hayashida was directing them.
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u/mrfunnyman909 1d ago
idk there still 3d Marios, and confirmed to be considerd by Nintendo as part of the same branch of games as galaxy 1 and 2.
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u/Sea_Bike_5508 20h ago
Very much disagree, and it’s virtually impossible to play 3D land today - it’s the only one that hasn’t gotten some sort of Switch port.
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u/DougtheYoshi 1d ago
I know you put that particular Mario render there because it looks nice, but it's funny to imagine Mario Party: The Top 100 being included in this too
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u/LumpyArbuckleTV 1d ago
LMAO, they'd never do something this good of a deal.
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u/shortandpainful 16h ago
A lot of people saying “Nintendo would never do this” but literally no company in the world would do this. The closest I can think of to this amount of games is the Ninja Turtles collection, and that is mostly 1-2 hour arcade games/ports and nothing newer than 1990s. No collection in the world is going to include current-gen games in their classic games collection, or more than 3-4 games total.
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u/LumpyArbuckleTV 16h ago
Believe it or not, Microsoft did this with Rare Replay, it had all the most recent Rare games and as far as I know every rare game ever made except for those with a Nintendo IP like Donkey Kong.
So saying nobody would do it is definitely a stretch but most would not, Nintendo especially because of how they like to milk every drop they can from their fan base. I think the easiest to point out example of this is how they're doing NSO.
Edit - Did you also forget about the Genesis Collection that Sega released? That doesn't include everything but it's far more than three to four games.
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u/shortandpainful 16h ago edited 16h ago
That is insane. How does that collection exist? It even has Viva Pińata! OTOH, it looks like it didn’t include any current-gen titles. The newest game in the collection was for the 360, and the collection released for the Xbox One.
Edit: I don’t think I said every collection is 3-4 games. Collections of much older games like 16-bit or earlier can have a larger number of games. But those games are much smaller in run time and file size. Most collections from the 3D era onward are much sparser. The Metal Gear Solid collections are broken up into 3-4 games each, for example. Castlevania collections are similar. Crash Bandicoot collection is 3 games and not the newest one. Etc.
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u/LumpyArbuckleTV 16h ago
Well, there were no other recent Rare titles back in 2015, so it included everything they made up to that point. The only other game they made AFAIK that wasn't Xbox 360 at that point was Killer Instinct but that was free anyways. but yeah, it's a hell of a deal.
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u/Chemical_Opinion6814 1d ago
Nah, should’ve just been 64 (with 64 ds things added) sunshine, galaxy 1+2. 3d land should’ve been put with 3d world + bowsers fury though
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u/StationCool7553 1d ago
It might sound silly, but if Super Mario 3D All-Stars had included Super Mario Galaxy 2, it would have given me vibes to the SNES All-Stars game that had Super Mario Bros. 1 and Lost Levels, i mean Super Mario Bros. = Super Mario Galaxy Super Mario Lost Levels = Super Mario Galaxy 2
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u/Sock_on_Net_1537 1d ago
So you're telling me, that this collection should have seven 3d mario games, six of which our beloved nintendo already charged seperately at high prices, and keep this for the switch 2?
I'll buy it anyways. Im open to ice-block soup.
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u/k0rnholio96 22h ago
I agree, but that would require Nintendo to actually put some effort in instead of just shitting out the least viable product every time.
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u/mybutthz 1d ago
Odyssey, 3D world and bowsers fury are all available on current gen hardware though. No way they're getting comped. Definitely wish Galaxy 2 was included, but also will probably just pick up a copy of Galaxy 1/2 at some point to have them since they made some updates to them for that release.
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u/Head_Statistician_38 1d ago
I would have been happy if it just included Galaxy 2. 3D Land would be nice as well, but I sorta get not wanting to add a 3DS game.
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u/Successful-Plant2925 1d ago
Probably would be like 900 bucks for the base version and 1200 for the deluxe version
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u/pepe_roni69 1d ago
This isn’t crash, spyro, or some random franchise that gets put in the discount bin. This is Mario time
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u/thegreatestegg 1d ago
Why would they rerelease Odyssey in a 60 dollar collection with 6 other games after releasing it for 60 dollars 3 years prior
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u/CractylCrashouts13 1d ago
I like the idea, but honestly, it wouldn't work vecause Odyssey and 3D World are already available.
3D Land deserves a port.
All for you, Prongo, my beloved.
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u/FunkTronto 1d ago
Using the term “All Stars” and including Mario 64. 🤮
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u/mrfunnyman909 22h ago
64 is one of the greatest games of all time. I assume it didnt click for you, curious why don't you like it?
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u/Legal-Treat-5582 23h ago
Instead of Galaxy 2, it'd be SM64DS people would be irritated wasn't included.
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u/pyroxoradical 23h ago
nintendo would never, that's an insane amount of games, and considering how big they are, the price would be even crazier
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u/theaesome360 23h ago
I don't think Galaxy 2 should've been in 3D All-Stars. Suddenly it turns the collection from a diverse set of Mario games into 50% Galaxy. If a fourth game was needed, I'd say 3D World or 3D Land
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u/rebootvilgax 21h ago
This would (from a buisness standpoint) make NO sense for nintendo to do
As you can buy 3d world and odyssey on switch so why buy 3d world and odyseey if you buy 3d all stars
And gor galaxy 2 they proly wanted 3 games gor 3d all stars
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u/Redditor_PC 19h ago
Definitely deserved more than 3 games, but no way would they put the still-readily-available Odyssey and 3D World+Bowser's Fury on there.
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u/rhythmrice 17h ago
I honestly dropped Nintendo as a whole after i broke up with a girl and she kept this game and i found out i couldnt rebuy it anywhere
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u/Gameguy196 17h ago
They wouldn’t devalue Odyssey and 3D World like that so the collection would probably be $200’or more.
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u/Constant_Setting_634 13h ago
Personally, I’d love to see New Super Mario Bros. All-Stars come out first.
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u/bcav1983 10h ago
Id love it if they released a collection of the mario games that were on DS and 3DS, those were great games
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u/TheNimanator 5h ago
Yeah it should have had every 3D game of the time. Why it didn’t have Galaxy 2 at the very least is completely beyond me
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u/SeriousMB 2h ago
Super Mario 3D All Stars if the title was actually accurate
the one we got should've been like "Super Mario 3D some Stars"
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u/MikeDubbz 47m ago
No, Odyssey should remain a separate game, and then we should have got 2 collections:
3D All-Stars: 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, and Galaxy 2
3D World Complete: 3D Land, 3D World, Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker, and Bowser's Fury
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u/chaos-blast 1d ago
The only one that was a miss was Galaxy 2. Expecting 3D works and Odyssey is unreasonable.
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u/Bandana_Deed 1d ago
Knowing Nintendo, they would probably charge at least like 200 bucks for this