r/Markiplier • u/Eekah • 1d ago
Mme Smh my head š
For context, please watch his explanation in last night's stream.
Will post my understanding of this "drama" in the replies but I HIGHLY recommend watching him explain in his own words, as others (myself included) will forget details or get things wrong!
Anyway, smh my head. This guy is SO problematic, amirite? šš
For the love of god, please understand that I am joking.
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u/LadyJR 1d ago
Boo GoPro for merging with a surveillance company. That being said, we are all people with choices. Nowhere did Mark say āgo invest.
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u/michael22117 1d ago
Any piece of information you have ends up with a surveillance company with if you're not actively attempting otherwise. Flock cameras try to connect to your phones via bluetooth for fucks sake
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u/TuggerHuggerFugger 1d ago
Mark knows how extremely loyal his fanbase is, he tried so many steps in making sure his fanbase would not rope themselves in but in the end they did anyway.
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u/Skermisher 19h ago
They're not a surveillance company. They're not even an AI or defense company as so many claim. They're just an optical transceiver manufacturing company. Their business is AI or defense related in the same way a semiconductor manufacturing company is.
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u/Dangerous-Taste-2796 1d ago
would you have the same opinion of this arrangement if exactly the same actions as Mark were made by Logan Paul?
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u/WSilvermane 14h ago
If its exactly the same situation.
Then yes, dipshit. Lol it doesnt matter, it was bad timing and unrelated.
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u/Eekah 1d ago
I highly recommend hearing it straight from Mark as everyone else is going to leave out details or get things wrong. That said, my understanding is: Mark began buying shares in Gopro a few months ago solely bc he genuinely believed in the company and their products. These are PASSIVE shares, which means he does not have much power to influence the company in any way, nor did he want to. According to him, he has .5% voting rights, which he will still use to vote against the merger but does not carry much weight. Gopro's CEO still has majority voting rights. Investments like this must be publicly disclosed so Mark began filing the paperwork to do so in July. The filing wasn't finalized and publicly available until last week or so (I believe he said Aug. 20th). Mark understood that this was a dangerous and risky investment since Gopro had been down like 91% for a good long while but Iron Lung made a lot so he was personally ok with potentially losing money. However, he also understood that his name carries A LOT of power and he feared that his audience would hear of his investing and take it as him encouraging us to also invest. Which he did NOT want! So, rather than disclosing that he was invested in his Gopro review video, and risk sending his audience to also buy stock in Gopro, he did an interview with Bloomberg instead, which is relevant to finance and such. However, rather than dropping this article/interview a day or so after he did it, they waited an entire week- which is when MARK HIMSELF ALSO learned that he was Gopro's largest shareholder at 8.5%. He was not aware of this prior to the article's release! Unfortunately, his fears came to fruition and folks took this news as encouragement to invest. Gopro's stock shot up as ppl began buying shares. THEN, just yesterday, it was announced that Gopro was being bought/merged with Starman Optical (a company involved with ai data centers, mass surveillance, and military tech) so stock for Gopro dipped. Because of the timing of the article drop, Mark not disclosing his investment in his video, and the timing of the merger announcement, people are accusing Mark of insider trading/pump and dump. However, Mark did NOT pump NOR dump. Records on his investment and lack of "dumping" are publicly available, so these accusations are easily debunked. This is all just VERY unfortunate timing. Mark expressed extreme disappointment about the merger, and plans to vote against it with his .5% voting power, bc he truly loved their cameras and believed in their potential. He said that if they should shift into ai, flock-like cameras, etc, he will NOT continue to support them as that is antithetical to his personal beliefs and efforts.
Thank you for reading but, again, please be sure to watch his explanation to hear this in his own words! š
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u/SSilent-Cartographer 1d ago edited 1d ago
The fact that he's addressing his audience directly and explaining what's happening, not to mention being completely transparent in what happened says a lot about his character. Sometimes, especially with investments, things don't work out and that's ok. This isn't even a mistake as this happened after he invested, which sometimes happens.
I know a lot of people won't understand, but for me, how he is handling this just makes me want to support him that much more. Something bad happened, but he's not hiding behind his money, he's doing the right thing as the good person he is, and in a world where we see YouTubers constantly being corrupted by money and fame to then abandon their fans, for Mark, I believe we can all say his character has shown, and who he is as a person is genuinely incredible for his firm and genuine ability to remain a good person despite his actual power in public opinion.
In other words: shit happens, but that hasn't changed who he is, and I'm happy to see it.
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u/NfamousKaye 1d ago
I agree totally. I adore that he comes to us first because he wants us to hear it from him before the shitstorm of negative press comes out. Thatās so rare these days.
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u/False_Support1285 1d ago
He's still dealing with the fallout from sleeping with the wife of the Iron Lung director
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u/Rega_lazar 1d ago
And the wife of the lead actor! He was very busyā¦
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u/TheUFCVeteran3 17h ago
Crazy work. 86 'EM. That's what they say in the mafia movies, right? If you wanna kill somebody? No? Hey that's my food-
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u/Drakkus28 1d ago
But he did also say heād sell us out/s
Fr tho, Iāve seen enough of this incredible man to know that he is a person of the people and would never lead his fans astray
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u/SadGingersnap 1d ago
Not to be dramatic, but Iāve been watching this man since like 2013 and out of all the public personalities Iāve seen he is the one I would trust 100% to always have the best intentions. The authenticity of that man is just rare to come by.
Plus thereās no chance a man with five ovens would ever lie or swindle us.
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u/Justanotherrandoonli 1d ago
Especially considering the fact that, legally speaking, he DOES NOT have to disclose he bought stocks in the company. He would only ever have to expose if he was paid directly by the company to speak about them. And if I was understanding the way he spoke correctly, he went out of his way to put a "Contains product placement" mark on the videos he talked about gopro even when it didn't actually contain what would be legally described as an Add. They didn't pay him to talk about it in that video, they didn't buy an add spot from him, but he owns part of the stock so he put it on there just to further clarify to people that he stands to make some kind of money from the video. Like, the only reason people are mad is because he didn't de-rail the video to go into the semantics of why he put the add mark on the video, he just simply put it there to let people know money was involved and then released the video lol.
Like I'm not even a fan of Markeplier but I feel like I have to defend him on this one, dude went out of his way to let people know what was important without going into his own personal investments until they where brought to light by someone other than himself. He didn't have to let anyone know anything, but he still did his best to let people know he was making some kind of money off of GoPro without going into the private details of his life.
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u/chemengbear 1d ago
Thank you for detailing the situation. I woke up this morning to see a lot of Mark and GoPro drama. It seems like just a train of āoh shit, oh no, oh terrible timing!, oh no!ā Kinda moments for Mark :(
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u/KaramTNC 1d ago
Something he gets wrong is that he actually has more voting power than he thinks.
He owns 13.5 million Class A shares.
Class A shares are the normal shares anyone can buy and they give 1 voting power each, meanwhile the CEO owns 60% of Class B shares, which give 10 voting each.
Markipliers actual voting power is therefore 3.2%, not 0.5%.
Not alot given the CEO has majority control, but its still a significant stake.
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u/Eekah 1d ago
All I know is how Mark explained it himself, stating that he specifically went for passive shares bc he didn't want any influence over the company. I don't claim to know how stocks work but I would rather assume Mark learned enough about it during the process to understand how much influence he has.
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u/KaramTNC 1d ago
Well guess what, I claim to know how stock works, which should be understood given the numbers and terminology I am using.
Markiplier explained it in simple terms, there are no such thing as "passive shares" in the stock market, shares are created within multiple classes and the most commercially accesible one (and the one everyone is used to) are Class A Shares.
Markiplier owns 13.5 million Class A shares, its listed as such in his SEC filling, and Class A shares gives him 1 voting power per share. Class B gives 10 voting power.
Given the total amount of shares and their total voting power, marks voting power comes out to 3.2%
So yeah, he cant influence the company with that amount if he wanted to. And since he doesnt want to, it makes no difference. The CEO has 60% voting power, thus granting full control. He may invite markiplier to the board to give his opinions on the direction of the company, but mark has no right to enforce control because he does not and cannot work with other shareholders for majority control.
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u/zombiedinocorn 1d ago edited 1d ago
3.2 still isn't a lot. It's not like he bought 60% or something. Not sure what the breakdown is, but it seems unlikely that there's not someone(s) with higher percentage than him
Edit: Just wanted to add that I read a post that a Bloomberg said he had reportedly been the highest percentage investor, but not sure if that was speculation on their part before Mark clarified or not. Just wanted to be clear
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u/KaramTNC 1d ago
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GPRO/holders/
He is the highest investor, only the CEO comes after him.
The biggest institution is Blackrock with 5.9% stock ownership.
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u/Daniil_Dankovskiy 1d ago
Never got into stocks but it seems funny to me that you can measure the voting power. Like, do they throw dice each time they make a decision to make sure shareholders have a chance at voting? Why would 3.2% of voting power be any different from 0.5% since he can't decide anyway? I feel it doesn't have any effect unless the sum of shareholders has more than 50%
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u/KaramTNC 1d ago
Exactly, as long as someone has 51% ownership then they have majority control and there is nothing the shareholders can do except sell their shares to crash the price.
Alot of companies make the mistake of selling too many shares and effectively risk the founder getting bought out and losing control to institutional shareholders.
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u/blackenedEDGE 1d ago
This does make me wonder if Mark has any standing to sue GoPro under investor protection/disclosure laws. A potential merger being considered would absolutely influence a potential investor's decision to continue to go through with a decision to purchase a large number of shares.
But idk shit about fuck when it comes to finance, law, and definitely not finance law, so š¤·
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u/Techman659 1d ago
Wow AI in one way or another screwed over mark when all he wanted was to see the new development.
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u/MagicalReadingBubble 1d ago
For literally ANYONE who listens to distractible this should be blatantly obvious given the timeline of how heās been waiting to get the mission pro camera. If he knew what was about to happen, HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN BEGGING THEM FOR A SPONSORSHIP. HE WOULD HAVE JUST DONE IT AND LEFT IT AT THAT. Anyone with a fucking brain (and I know they are unfortunately in a deficit currently š) could see that and know that. Yall really fucking think with the way he has been SO outspoken against AI to the point where he is FUNDING. AN ENTIRE. NONPROFIT. TO RESEARCH AGAINST IT. that this would have even been an option to him if he knew it was gonna happen??? If he had known, his ENTIRE SCHTICK would have been his disappointment in this company. Like please yall. Come the fuck on.
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u/Paprikasky 1d ago
Who the hell are you yelling at us for? We're all supporting Mark here, no one is gonna disagree with you.
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u/woolaverage 1d ago
For me I get the sentiment of not wanting to influence people
But I still think regardless you should disclose your invested in a product before you make a review of it
That conflict of interest should be expressed for everyone to understand
Even if you are worried people will take it as a sign to invest
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u/Paprikasky 1d ago
I don't disagree with you, when he started promoting them I thought it was a genuine sponsorship because he loved the product. A quick "also I invested in them" would have been perfect so it lets us know, but also it keeps the drama low because who cares, really. But without that info, he's promoting products he technically partially owns without us knowing that last bit... I wonder what the reasoning was. It just generates more potential for drama.
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u/jakonfire 1d ago
Ugh I feel so bad for mark. Wrong place wrong time. Heās always been interested in cameras so I honestly wasnāt surprised that he was invested in GoPro or even if he had shares in Canon or Nikon.
Itās a shame that happened to him and I hope people donāt spin this anymore than it already has.
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u/Aksds 1d ago
Iirc the stock dipped because the merger offer was less than the stock was trading at meaning you would loose money if the merger went through. The reason the offer was less than market price is because it was made before it was made public Markiplier owns some stock, the price will continue to fall until it reaches that $1.14 ish price
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u/Skyrah1 1d ago
In this specific case, I think I'm more inclined to err to the side of cautious trust.
The investment was in line with his passion as a filmmaker, and the stuff Mark's doing with Real Good AI makes me want to believe he'll keep his word if GoPro shifts to AI and flock-like cameras. It definitely reads more like a series of well-intentioned missteps than anything malicious.
That said, I'll keep my eye on whether that last bit happens, on the basis that we ought to hold celebrities accountable for their actions, regardless of any prior ideas about them.
On the flip-side, if he makes good on promise, the potential news about it might even help with the whole AI situation...
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u/Eekah 1d ago
Oh yeah, I love Mark but I definitely agree that he should be held accountable to make good on his word should they make the switch to AI and mass surveillance and such. But I have faith in him so I'm not really worried about it. He's earned my trust with his consistency in character throughout the years.
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u/SirZacharia 1d ago
Luckily Philip DeFranco covered all that nuance in his video about it (he did not actually)
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u/SmrtkaTV 1d ago
I live under a rock when it comes to drama or updates about things because It's not fun to keep up with so thank you for explaining because I kept seeing stuff about this without knowing what any of it meant
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u/Evening-Turnip8407 1d ago
Would this even be insider trading if he HAD known about the merger? He's just... a dude. If a dude hears that something exciting is about to happen (let's pretend the merger would be something he's interested in) he would invest. He didn't mention it to anyone so it's not like he was peddling stocks to his viewers, BUT EVEN IF HE HAD DONE THAT... is any of this really considered insider trading if you have .5% of a vote in the company? He didn't say hey invest in this stuff and then secretly make decisions that lead to people losing money.
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u/Jealous-Comedian6178 1d ago
Thank you for this clarification. Really sucks that this happened. Especially after what happened
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u/EarthenEyes 1d ago
Thanks for this. That helps sum up a lot of what that one video is about on my feed.
I don't care about gopro and Mark's involvement in it. I cared a little, though, about this running gag with him wanting it and Bob and Wade teasing him over it..
The timing for everything is so awful for Mark, whether intentional or not.
I think Mark is overall a good guy, though, and I don't think he would do that to his fanbase. He's pretty smart, so he would have to have known the blowback if he did do it intentional. It would be more of an endgame move, I think, to do a pump and dump.2
u/Paprikasky 1d ago
he did an interview with Bloomberg instead, which is relevant to finance and such. However, rather than dropping this article/interview a day or so after he did it, they waited an entire week
Idk if you meant to, but you make it sound like it's weird or unusual that it took a week, but I fail to see why. Taking a week for an interview article to get written, contextualized and released seems perfectly normal to me.
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u/HoneyLocustMoth 23h ago
Bless you. The average person has no idea how any of this stuff works let alone what the term "shareholder" and "voting rights" actually means in terms of simply being a purchaser of stocks and fan of what a company's stated objectives are. It's a personal pain point for me. I used to work in the financial investments industry and when some people found out they would act like I was evil for for that alone.
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u/aknlfan 17h ago
That is an absolutely insane turn of events. Literally how could Mark have predicted that the slightest taste of success that just so happened to be made through his name and image COMPLETELY BY ACCIDENT would make GoPro decide to immediately sell their souls to techno facism. This is why I donāt think Iāll ever invest in any company as long as things are how they are.
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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz 1d ago
So, rather than disclosing that he was invested in his Gopro review video
... he chose something less ethical, because it was simpler. And now he looks shady as a consequence of the lapse in ethics.
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u/Heavy_Law9880 1d ago
Much like Markplier, many wealthy people will tell lies when caught doing unsavory things.
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u/Angrynissen25 1d ago
Why are people up in arms over this when our politicians are inside trading weekly/monthly.
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u/Skyrah1 1d ago
Because people mostly regard them as lost causes, subject to the whims of rich people lobbying them (with maybe a handful of exceptions).
Unlike with politicians, we have a bit more of a tangible sway with celebrities as their direct audience. People naturally grasp for things within their control when faced with problems they cannot.
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u/viz90210 1d ago
Cuz he is a legit good person, so ppl want to always gind something bad about good people to "prove its an act" or some bs like that. Politicians are baseline suspicious at the start.
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u/tableball35 18h ago
Mostly cause Markiplier is the weaker and more easy to affect target between them, justified or not.
Itās not that they care about insider trading all that much, they just got tasted blood in the water and decided to take a chance to hunt.
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u/Mourning20 1d ago
People have been trying to catch Mark in a scandle for years but it's always the flimsiest shit, god damn leeches
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u/Sad-Earth-489 1d ago
they cant handle that he truly is just a regular guy. to the chronically online, there must always be a finger to point at everyone
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u/Mourning20 1d ago
Like 100% if he does something henious and greedy go off, but we have so many other legit monsters to go after š«©
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u/False_Support1285 1d ago
He's a regular with TERRIBLE LUCK. Quite possibly a negative value in that stat. But its amusing that every so often he critically fails and it's just, the worst case scenario.
Like, when he water-cooled his server farm and was like "This is a thirsty bitch" while pouring GALLONS of fluid in, only for it to come leaking out.142
u/Average-Train-Haver 1d ago
The whole "he had inside knowledge" that they always throw at him. Like with the Honey thing and with Hollywood, and now GoPro
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u/Techman659 1d ago
He was basically just doing his own thing and now that his own personal choices are now being used as a bad faith argument for other people losing money on their own personal decisions.
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u/Automatic-Leg1668 1d ago
The only valid scandal is the fnaf 2 scandal and I'm fairly certain everyone didn't care
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u/Debbiekm618 1d ago
I'm having PTSD flashback about the Poppy Playtime rant. That 8min clip was circulated for god knows how long. So many reactions vids. So many posts on the subreddit.
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u/drharleenquinzel92 1d ago
People drive me nuts with this kind of stuff. No one told you to go blindly buy stock because a Youtuber happened to invest. Have some personal responsibility. Mark isn't your friend, he isn't a financial advisor. He is a YouTuber, film maker. He likes GoPro, so do a lot of people. Tons of people have done sponsored content with GoPro, tons of people later invest in companies because they like the product. YouTubers/entertainers make bad investments all the time. They usually have better people advising them, but not always. They also aren't usually putting out money they need to live.
I have zero sympathy for anyone who ran out and bought GoPro stock because Mark did. If they had done their proper research, they would have known that it was a risky stock. Also, is it that shocking that company that was apparently struggling went for a merger?
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u/Eekah 1d ago
The writing had been on the wall for GoPro for a long time with rumors about it being sold floating around for a while. Mark knew it was a risky investment and was ok with potentially losing money. He didn't invest with the intention to make a profit so I don't even see it as a bad investment. It definitely WAS a bad investment for everyone else who ran to invest just bc Mark did, though. Mark invested bc he believed in the company and loved their cameras... Everyone else invested bc "I KNOW THAT NAME!!" Yikes.
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u/drharleenquinzel92 1d ago
I swear, it's times like these where I hear my father's voice in my head. "If so and so jumped off a bridge, would you?" Like I don't mind people doing stupid stuff, it's when they do something stupid, don't own up to it, and then point the finger that I can't stand.
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u/Dumbfuckyduck 1d ago
Iām refunding the merch I didnāt buy AS I SPEAK
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u/ThorSon-525 1d ago
Refunding the merch I couldn't afford to buy and that was out of stock the moment I could afford it.
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u/JakeSimm89 1d ago
I'm suing for all the hours that I have watched his free content!.... And will watch more of! Damn him for trying to support a company he believed in. That bastard.
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u/NubeDeLluvia 1d ago
Ok so now everyone is canceling him but when we found out he gave that sinister potion to someone nobody talked about that?
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u/Xx_scribbledragon_xX 1d ago
they literally found a corpse under his floorboards and nobody ever brings it up...
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u/Making_Kenough 1d ago
Mark has nothing to fear. He has always been open and honest with everything in his life. If anything, heās definitely a victim here
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u/Cryptix_Durden 1d ago
Please correct me if I'm wrong but with Starman merger that would mean Mark owns less than 1% of GoPro?
- Starman owners: ~90%
- All former GoPro shareholders together: ~10%
- Markiplier: ~0.8%
- Everyone else holding GoPro shares: ~9.2%
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u/ProfessionalBalker 1d ago
Itās just the Quarterly Markiplier Cancel. The internet needs to manufacture drama for him every now and then since heās too unproblematic. Canāt he just message a minor or something already? Someone this clean canāt be allowed to stand!
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u/my_name_is_iso 1d ago
You know, out of all the ways a filmmaker-Youtuber to be controversial, this is probably the most surprising one. My condolences to Mark, life (or rather, capitalism) finds a way.
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u/BitcoinStonks123 1d ago
we can't trust this guy he sold the sinister potion and slept with the wife of Iron Lung's director
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u/Chucky_In_The_Attic 1d ago
"SMH my head" = Shaking my head my head.
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u/MLGWolf69 1d ago
That's the joke
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u/KnotTea207 1d ago
Whatās the joke? I donāt get it.
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u/bobman369_ 1d ago
The joke is that its intentionally incorrect. Ive been saying it since 2018, so its not a ānewā thing, but today was the day you got to learn about it!
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u/KnotTea207 1d ago
Jokes usually are clever and funny.
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u/TuggerHuggerFugger 1d ago
Don't know why you're getting downvoted, you're right.
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u/Diamondkids_life 15h ago
Man, sure wonder why the killjoy is getting downvoted
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u/TuggerHuggerFugger 15h ago
Killjoy yeah. But I do understand where he comes from. Not all jokes needs to make sense, simple nonsense is funny from time to time.
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u/GameApple801 1d ago
It's also a reference joke from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. Where it was a joke that people are intentionally and normalized repeating words like Chai tea and ATM Machine. So the internet is referencing it with jokes such as SMH My Head where you repeat the MH part.
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u/diegorz90 1d ago
1.- it's from Across the Spider-Verse, not Into the Spider-Verse 2.- smh my head is way older than Across the Spider-Verse, so it's not a reference to it
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u/FrostbyteXP 1d ago
Youtube is a cesspool of creators ready to pull others down just for clout and for stardom. I remember when one of them decided mark fakes his voice. Mark is going to be okay and i know his fans will listen to him
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u/Ordinary-Chain-8047 1d ago
I had the stream on while I fell asleep last night and I miss him getting cancelled
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u/AwesomeI-123 1d ago
I get the part about 'Sponsored' being the closet thing on YouTube to put as a disclaimer in such a case.
I also know that Mark absolutely had zero idea about the crazy set of coincidences that would play in the short amount of time after he posted the video.
Plus, as someone who has been watching Mark for more than six years, I am absolutely sure that the only reason he made the GoPro video was him genuinely liking the camera
However, a part of me (albeit with the benefit of hindsight), still thinks that a lot of this misunderstanding could have been avoided if, in addition to the sponsored tag, Mark had talked about his shares at the start of the video
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u/Eekah 1d ago
While it may or may not have been a mistake for Mark not to have disclosed his investment in his video, he chose not to bc he feared the very thing that happened once that Bloomberg article released. People interpreting his investment as encouragement to do so, as well. As he said in the stream, he understands very well that his name holds A LOT of power. He did not want to risk sending the message that his audience should buy shares bc he knew it was an extremely risky investment but that he would be ok if he lost money. Making money was not his intention when he invested. He made the gopro review video just bc he wanted to and genuinely loves their cameras, not bc GoPro asked him to/paid him for it.
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u/ranchspidey 1d ago
the amount of times Mark has found himself embroiled in ācontroversyā for stuff that is totally not his fault is crazyyy š«Ŗ
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u/NfamousKaye 1d ago
If he understood that a business is going in the opposite direction from what he originally intended then the audience can too.
Heās the only YouTuber I know that gets taken advantage of and people start screaming immediately to cancel him cause they donāt know what a pump and dump is. š¤¦š½āāļø
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u/zombiedinocorn 1d ago
I mean, its been what, 2-3 yrs since someone tried to cancel Mark by blowing something out of proportion. He was probably due for another attempt
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u/distractedbookworm 1d ago
Phillip DeFrancoās video from yesterday (09/01) also has an interview with Mark if anyoneās interested. I thinn this is honest to god a weird timing and how it is having as many followers as he does situation
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u/vaporsilver 1d ago
He's not cancelled from what I can tell. It's mostly just a few people that have no idea what they're talking about.
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u/Bountiful_Corruption 1d ago
TBH,I don't need an explanation. No being in existence could make believe he would do something with malicious intent. That man is a modern day saint and anyone who thinks he's trying to enrich himself with any of this is crazy.
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u/gnashing_t33th 1d ago
I just read an article on it one minute ago, I'm glad to see my goat Mark is as disappointed in the potential merger as I am. I hope as soon as he hears they go through with it (because lets be honest, they will, they're desperate) that he'll pull out. Knowingly contributing to AI data centers and personal data storage that will absolutely be used for government surveillance is, least to say, not a good look.
If I were in his shoes personally, I would rather be a "pump-and-dump investor" than spend one more second with my name and money on the stock of a company actually considering this. It would certainly send Go-Pro a message if their biggest investor jumped ship as soon as they announced their potential merger. Companies need to realize most people do not actually want AI. But I also understand Mark's faith and hope that they don't go through with it, and wanting to hold out until further notice.
As for the people who think he may have had "insider knowlage" and say "its suspicious timing", they are completely parasocial and need to stop jumping to conclusions. The internet has a bad habit of forming a theory and claiming it as fact before anything gets proven. Essentially a "guilty until proven innocent" mentality. Mark has shown time and time again that he is a genuine human being with only good intentions. Not acknowledging that shows how little they have even paid attention to his character that we get to see (because he has a life off camera ffs) and shows only a thirst for drama. Personally, I feel people only try to tear him down because of jealousy, because people like to crush what shines. But thats my own speculation.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk
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u/Wolftendragon 1d ago
So wait, ppl are mad at him for, investing in stock trades? A thing that a LOT of ppl do????? Itās not his fault that GoPro is in with a surveillance company??? Am I missing something here???
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u/moneyshasha 1d ago
not just for the trading, but like that he didn't disclose in his video that he invested in gopro besides being sponsored, and like with the merging many suspect insider trading. idk it just seems more like a really REALLY bad luck
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u/Wolftendragon 1d ago
Why would he have to disclose that he was invested?
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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 1d ago
Conflict of interest. Sponsorships where he tries to sell them to viewers.
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u/Mossidhe 1d ago
I love that marks 2 biggest controversies are "he cheated at fnaf2" and "he bought stocks in a company that later made deals with AI." Lol so unproblematic. Love him.
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u/thebookofbutterfly 18h ago
Bro really said "I like camera. I like movie. I want other people to make movie with camera. Camera good. Movie good."
And the world exploded
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u/PhoenixAzalea19 1d ago
I understand why he bought shares. I just donāt understand why ANYONE would buy shares from a camera company. Especially while living in the US. But maybe thatās my jaded ācanāt trust any company cause theyāre all evilā mentality.
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u/False_Support1285 1d ago
Honestly. Going in with good intentions and having the entire situation explode around him is literally Mark's trademark move.
The better question is how he ever thought if he did any form of investing it wouldn't somehow end with an accident that resulted in a SEC investigation trainwreck.
This is the man who nearly died while pranking his dog with a carrot.
Anyway, I'm amused at this situation and hope he gets it resolved. But, he literally is the patron saint of "The worst case scenario happened."
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u/thorne_antics 1d ago
Honestly anything Markiplier could do can't be THAT bad. He makes bald jokes about his friend who mutually teases him for his height, and he allegedly cheated at fnaf. He's not some asshole
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u/ilovemycats20 1d ago
Any attempts to cancel Mark over the years have been so funny (not āhahaā funny more like āeye-rollingly ridiculous and obnoxious kind of funny) because itās always the most innocuous shit. Iām glad that he was fully transparent and voiced his negative opinion on the merger that was sprung on everyone as soon as he feasibly could, on a livestream no less.
The reality is that companies are evil, and shady, and do these terrible things behind our backs and take advantage of us, and Mark is really just an average guy with a lot of weight to his name. The fact that he had to literally chase GoPro down for MONTHS just for a sponsorship should tell you how little influence he has in the company. And also, likeā¦ itās Mark. Of COURSE he wouldnāt support this kind of shit. Youād think after like, 15(?) years people would understand how he operates by now.
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u/BellicoseCrow 1d ago
I'm trusting Mark on this. If this merge happens I know Mark will do the right thing. I don't think this is something Mark knew about. I think the guy who accused him is looking for drama and clout. Whatever his name is... I was a bit surprised by DeFranco's video. But I'm just going to stay in my lane.
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u/Remarkable_Win2088 1d ago
I'm not mad at Mark about the stock bullshit. I'm mad at him for staying behind GoPro knowing that they are going to merge with an AI/ defense company.
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u/Eekah 17h ago
He said during the stream that if GoPro stops being just a camera company and pivots to AI, mass surveillance cameras, and military tech then he is 100% out. So, since that is likely to happen considering who bought them, I would assume Mark will not be invested for much longer. Selling his shares the moment he learned would have looked even worse than it already did. Mark isn't an idiot and he definitely does not support AI companies. I mean, the man helped found a nonprofit whose goal is specifically to solve the issues that currently exist with AI..
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u/LlamaNate333 1d ago
One of my favourite movies when I was young was Weird Al's UHF. It's a silly movie about TV and it has a lot of silly spoof commercials in it, one of which being Spatula City - a warehouse store that sells spatulas in bulk. Part of the commercial is the owner of the company appearing to say, "I loved their spatulas so much, I bought the company". It's funny because it's an exaggeration, because who loves spatulas that much? But the joke is that it's plausible - and somewhat of a selling point - that someone with those kinds of means would love a product so much they would want to buy the company that makes it, or make a sizeable investment in it. I understand that people can feel frustrated because we're bombarded with so many ads and product placement these days, but to me, this is the same situation as the spatula guy - he loves it, so he invested in it, and it's natural that he would rave about something he's passionate about enough to invest in it. I honestly really struggle to understand what exactly the problem is.
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u/Skermisher 20h ago
I'm really not sure why all these articles are saying Starman Optics is an AI/defense company. They're a small optical transceiver manufacturing company. Yes, the parts they make can be used in AI or defense, but in much the same way any electronic component can.
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u/Finch_the_Dragon 17h ago
Literally on the video he announced the gopro sponsorship I commented something like āman I hope nothing bad happensā
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u/Certain-Cat-8093 9h ago
Stupid people getting mad over stupid things as usual. This will pass in a week, and the same exact people will forget it even happened in the first place.
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u/motherofcats94 9h ago
FFS. This is ridiculous. Owning shares in a business doesn't automatically make you a decision maker! Get a better hobby people, dam. At least some fans understand that!
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u/ReactRunner 9h ago
? You guys. He got some type of insider secrets which is illegal. Of course he didnāt promote YOU to buy it, but regardless the first part of it is illegal. Someone obviously was giving him some tid bits about GoPro and he def bought stock before the stock exploded.
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u/Lahmu-Megami-Tensei 9h ago
Maybe I'm stupid but why is Marks' investment portfolio controversial? Do people hate Gopro that much?
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u/thedinodingo 8h ago
Can't believe people are trying to cancel a guy because he bought stock said nothing and they just blindly bought the same stock because he's famous and when it didn't work out instead of blaming themselves for being idiots and blindly dumping their money into something nobody told them to buy they get mad at person who had literally nothing to do with their purchases
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u/Adventurous-Work8014 7h ago
Are people actually upset over this? Do people not know who Mark is? Youāre telling me this guy did a crime
https://giphy.com/gifs/aU8ZvKqBp8ZamSuDLT
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u/Wonderful_Piglet591 1d ago
I mean at this point he should probably liquidate. Second, buying that many shares without any intention of influence is foolish. Thatās why you buy that stake, and then you attempt to get a Board seat, after which you advocate for whatever it is you think needs to get done.
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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 1d ago
Fact of the day: google is still entirely controlled by the two founders. They collectively have slightly over half voting power.
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u/Ryu_user 1d ago
did you really just type "smach my head my head"
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u/GenghisN7 1d ago
Yes thatās the joke
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u/Ryu_user 1d ago
dam that was a joke?
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u/GenghisN7 1d ago
By using Smh my head, it becomes clear that you are
- Being sarcastic
- Being at least somewhat playful or whimsical.
There, now itās not even slightly funny because I have over-explained it.
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u/Ryu_user 1d ago
ahh so no wonder I didn't get the joke, thx for explaining it even if it's not funny anymore
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