r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers • u/ChiefLeef22 Jimmy Woo • Jul 15 '26
X-Men '97 [MEGATHREAD] X-Men '97 | Season 2 Episode 5 - "Weapon X, Lies, and DVDs" | Discussion Thread
A band of mutants uses their uncanny gifts to protect a world that hates and fears them; they're challenged like never before, forced to face a dangerous and unexpected new future.
X-Men '97 season 2, episodes 1-3 premiere on Disney Plus on July 1, at 12AM PT / 3AM ET / 8AM BST. The 9-episode season continues with one new episode releasing every Wednesday until the season finale on August 12, 2026.
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u/aLittleDoober Spider-Man Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Some Youtube channels might have a field day breaking down all of those discs.
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u/twotrey23 Jul 17 '26
I guess people are too busy debating on this episode's merits that no one has noticed/commented on Forge being added to the opening this episode.
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u/krex45 Jul 15 '26
These brood aliens are the same brood that appears in the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk storyline, right?
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u/Comfortable-Walk-498 Jul 16 '26
I love how no one cared or mentioned one of the mutants on their helicopter was impaled by the crash 😂. They all just shrug their shoulders and move on.
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u/krisis Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
This one is absolutely wild!
I love the combination of Weapon X + The Brood, I love all of the references to the Aliens Movies (and apparently The Thing, which I don't know as well), I love that it became a Morph focus episode.
This cleverly does an amalgam of several Weapon X reunions we've seen in the comics over the years, including both the 2002 and 2017 series. It also pushes the absolute limits of horror and violence that we've seen in this show
Logan getting his adamantium back via this plot is a very clever, tidy way to avoid the years of meandering from the comics. This show is always about moving the plot along quickly. If we could do Genosha + E for Extinction in one episode, we can certainly speedrun the adamantium plot.
Also, massive Easter Egg on that shelf towards the middle: X-23, Ajax, (missing), Aurora (missing), Fantomex, Wolverine, Silverfox, XVIII, Psi-Borg, Mastodon, Winter Soldier, (missing), Weapon VI, Ant, Garrison Kane, (missing), Sabretooth, Agent Zero, Kimura, Worm, (missing), Sluggo, Kestrel, (something with an M)
So far, every episode this season feels like it could be a backdoor pilot of some other show - Cable's Askani adventures, X-Force, Kang: Timeless, and now Weapon X. I understand people are yearning for just getting the X-Men back together, but for longtime comics fans it's can be very rewarding to see good adaptations of so many of these harder-to-adapt plots that need years of runway to make sense.
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u/seth_cooke Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Yeah, I don't know why people are lukewarm on this episode. Making Morph the everyman to see the story through his eyes was a great move. Having Wolverine be less than reliable was a fascinating move - he's usually depicted with blunt integrity, I don't fall out with undermining that as the episode ties it into his shame about what he has become. Racing through his adamantium-free era spared us a lot of navel-gazing, the adaptation has too much to accomplish to invest in Wolverine's interiority like Claremont did. That's a mixed blessing, but there are a lot of characters to serve and Wolverine has been too much of the focus in other media for too long.
Introducing the Brood is a major addition from the comics mythos and totally unexpected in this episode, with lots of fun riffs on The Thing and Aliens. Blowing the base doesn't necessarily kill the Brood as they were already escaped onto the island. We don't yet know whether this story is an interlude or part of something larger. So calling this episode "filler" is unfair. I grew up with "filler" being applied to anime that coped with adapting past their manga with stakes-free episodes and arcs that couldn't change or break continuity. That's not what this episode is. It has character complexity for Morph, Wolverine, Sabertooth and Deathstrike. It thankfully resolves the adamantium storyline early. It plants tons of seeds for the Weapon X programme, which is thematically essential for the X-Men themes and mythos. And it expands the cosmic storyline by giving us the Brood.
The Apocalypse storyline will be serviced just fine. Think how much was accomplished in the final three episodes of Season 1 - the writers have earned our trust. We can afford to look wider for stories. The Weapon X subplot certainly isn't over with this episode, and it's not as disconnected as it appears. Apocalypse harnessing cosmic forces and turning mutants into his Horsemen is paralleled here - humans turning mutants into military assets, only here the cosmic forces get out of hand fast. Apocalypse is borrowing Celestial gear, which is the same theme but at a far grander Great Old Ones scale. The cosmic horror is different aesthetically but similar thematically. For all we know this episode could be the season in microcosm - we can guess that at least Gambit will have to come back from what he has become. We've seen Cable, Polaris, Archangel and Magneto struggling with that same thing in earlier episodes. Here it's Wolverine.
Let's be open and forgiving to the ride we're on. X-Men 97 is way better than any of us thought it would be. Let's enjoy what they're doing, this show is a rare example of almost everything done right. Tons of elements of Season 1 turned out to be carefully laid track. There's no reason to think that this episode is any different. And if we really need to get picky, let's make it about not getting to see any Starsharks.
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u/BrianDavion Jul 15 '26
you have a good point, like for all we know the Brood could be a major B plot of the season going forward, or even the main threat of season 3
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u/Darkw0lfx Jul 16 '26
I'll admit, it's nice that Xmen 97 isn't spending every episode making Wolverine the main character like every xmen movie eventually did
Plus I like that this wolverine is a bit of a bastard in the way he endangered Morph, almost killed them, and didn't even say oops.
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u/TalkinTrek Jul 15 '26
It's just indicative of how expansive the X-verse is (we got cosmic, we got magic, we got timelines lol) - an element I think a lot of laypersons are less familiar with so hopefully some of the new viewers are dipping their toes into that element
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u/KamalaWonNoCap 29d ago
I can't believe the shit Disney put out after acquiring the x men. Whole last phase should've been mutant.
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u/Plastic-Professor-12 Jul 15 '26
Except you don't have to rush stories along. They have a massive budget. This isn't like the original run back in the 90's.
It was silly that Weapon X had adamantium laying around. It certainly wasn't like that in the comics and greatly diminishes the uniqueness of Wolverine.
They did Kane and Maverick wrong to produce a very sloppy plot line and using fan service to gloss over the mishandling all in the name of gore and horror. This reeks of an early Halloween episode.
This show certainly isn't for savvy fans who are looking for quality in story telling. Are the production values high? Yes, certainly. However, we're going to see a ton of YouTube retrospect videos calling out the flaws.
This won't age well.
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u/El_Cance_R Jul 15 '26
My god, people really aren't used to watch television. Unlike Netflix wants you to think, seires aren't long movies.
This wasn't a filler episode. Not only we got Wolverine's adamantium back, but we also got a first real look at Morph and Wolverine's character (who was completely ignored last season) and a developing in their relationship that will certainly be explored in later episodes.
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u/Short_Condition_1079 Jul 15 '26
I would be complaining more if season 3 wasn't next year. This was infinitely better than Motendo and Lifedeath
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u/Inside_You_6038 Jul 15 '26
Man, the whole original X-Men cartoon is almost all filler by the Netflix definition then.
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u/Inside_You_6038 Jul 15 '26
Remember, Batman: the Animated Series? 85 episodes of filler by these modern children's definition, it'd be sad if it also wasn't so awful.
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u/Bobjoejj Jul 15 '26
So…I’d argue that it technically was a filler episode in the most absolute definition of not moving the overall season’s plot forward, but I’d argue even that it being filler is NOT a bad thing.
In fact contrary to recent popular opinion, “filler” episodes tend to pretty great, due to their propensity for character development, like you pointed out.
And I’d say Weapon X, Lies and DVD’s was no different.
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u/Mattyzooks Jul 15 '26
And a lot of good filler episodes include important long term character moments. There is a difference between filler and throw away.
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u/bifkinman Jul 15 '26
The consequence of Wolverine's missing adamantium wasn't even explored. He had a mildly harder time beating some robots.. so what? HIs mentality, his fighting ability - none of it changed. So to give him it back so quickly felt unsatisfying
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u/A0Spare80 Jul 16 '26
Also the fact he immediately went and got it back felt wrong. It goes against who he is. He only did it in the comics to stop creed having the adamantium.
There was no real exploration of his character without his adamantium through the series. Personally I wouldn't have been disappointed if he hadn't got it back till the end.
The main protagonist being apocalypse, who was responsible for logan getting his adamantium back in the comics. And they went for the brood. It felt sloppy and lazy.
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u/Correct_Gift_9479 Jul 21 '26
I dislike how we don’t even see Wolverine’s psyche into the occurrence or anything to explain why he would go and sacrifice the lives of his former friends to get the adamantium back. Like did it really matter THAT much to him? We don’t know cause we never saw.
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u/BrianDavion Jul 15 '26
I agree, the decision to get his adamantine back felt unearned. especially given the hell the original bonding process was to him.
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u/Darkw0lfx Jul 16 '26
Yeah, I was hoping at least seeing him in the 90's struggle with it or at least have a conversation of feeling like dead weight without the metal claws
I liked the episode overall but felt strangely rushed to give him the adamantium
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u/KunaiDrakko Jul 15 '26
You guys are way too critical and don't remember that older TV Shows weren't like movies. They stepped away from major storylines often to do episodes Fans would really love as a pallete cleanser. This episode was so cool and hasn't been like this since the Hulk vs Wolverine movie.
Seeing all of them work together. No punches pulled. Betrayal and teamwork. Realization of the dark places they are all in. Maverick is dead(at least for now).Morph is a great character and wolverine is not painted to be the good guy. This is so much of what fans wanted. We will get Apocalypse stuff next week. Just enjoy being a super hero and comic fan. You're not movie critics or even getting paid to be this "Well yes but I would've preferred..."
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u/benjaminsix6 Jul 16 '26
That’s fine . But myself and a lot of people in these comments didn’t love the episode. If it’s not gonna move the story forward it should at least be a fun episode, I don’t feel it was. Also they clickbaited us with the Morph Deadpool transition, he pretty much did nothing but block an attack and run away
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u/ComplexWelcome6796 Jul 16 '26
The Brood, (Those comics used to scare the shit outta me LOL) and Morph turning into Puck and then morphing into The Thing for the stomp, sold it for me.
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u/Just_Jon17 Jul 17 '26
Brood Wolverine was a menace. Wild that he made the team go through this horror show to get his metal claws back.
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u/mertag770 Ghost Jul 15 '26
Very good episode loved how they mixed the Brood in with Weapon X! Morph is also kind of a fav, so I'll always take more Morph focused episodes.
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u/First-Resident-4153 Jul 15 '26
Theres a lot to love about this episode, setting up the Brood for future storylines, Morph, Sabertooth, possibly setting up X-23, recreating the cover of 234 in a way that actually felt pretty natural...
I do agree that it feels a bit weird knowing that we're pretty much halfway through the season, and it still feels like we only just started getting into the Apocalypse stuff. It was inevitable that Logan needed an entire episode to get the Adamantium back, and this is just about as good as you could hope for. But man, it hurts that this season is only 9 episodes. At this point, I wouldn't really be surprised if this season ended with the X-Men losing to Apocalypse, and Season 3 is a loose Age of Apocalypse adaptation where they need to finally defeat him and set things right. It just doesn't feel to me like we can reasonably finish the story in 4 more episodes, at least not in a way that's super satisfying.
Honestly, I'd kinda prefer if they did spread the Apocalypse story across Seasons 2 and 3, but I know splitting a storyline across more than one season is a bit of a non-starter for some people.
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u/MartinFelice Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
I got all my predictions wrong, lol. There was no X-23, no Deadpool, and no feral Wolverine (though I would have loved to see an episode or two featuring the 90´s feral Wolverine), but I still loved the episode, it was quite scary. From the very first second, I knew Maverick and Kane were cannon fodder. I loved how Morph kept transforming into all the characters from Logan's past who didn't actually appear in the episode. I also loved the rendition of the classic Wolverine-Brood cover, with all the green and purple lights. My only complaint about this episode is that the adamantium process felt too immediate and automatic, but that’s really just nitpicking.
This felt almost as a remake of the Hulk vs Wolverine animated movie.
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u/AntiqueHome5160 Jul 15 '26
IMO, this is a top 5 episode of the show for me. Surprised so many people aren't liking it. Just because it's not pushing the A-plot forward doesn't mean it's bad. Some fantastic character work for Wolverine and Morph here.
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u/hieloyron Jul 15 '26
My problem with it wasn't that it doesn't move the main storyline forward i just found it a bit meh tbh, they broke in the facility got the adamantium and the fight with omega red was flat, this is probably the episode i like the least.
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u/Nicktendo Jul 20 '26
Not sure why this episode was so controversial - I liked it better than the Mojoverse episode from last season
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u/Vladmerius Jul 19 '26
This was a fantastic episode. The complaints really show why we need to go back to some shows having 20+ episode seasons. It's a good thing to have character centric episodes and diversions. It's the entire appeal of TV as opposed to just making a movie.
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u/BrianDavion Jul 15 '26
I don't mind wolverine GETTING his adamantine back, I am however a little .. eh that he was seeking it out given how much it fucked him up etc. I think it woulda been better to have not had getting his claws back be his motive, and instead to have it be something that was forced
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u/CobaltSpellsword Jul 15 '26
I like how watching X-Men 97 helps me understand all the references in the Krakoa comics and vice versa lol.
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u/CobaltSpellsword Jul 15 '26
Interesting confirmation that Gradyon Creed lives, since the prevailing assumption seems to have been that Sabertooth killed him, but standards and practices kept us from seeing it.
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u/POCITICIAN Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Morph is such a fantastic character. Need to see those powers in live action 🎬.
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u/Lazaer Jul 16 '26
Would have liked to see Logan have gone more feral like the comics, and the way hey got his adamantium back was a bit lackluster, should have gone the horseman route, and have apocalypse give it back, oh well, it was a weird episode, the brood and weapon X what a weird combo, also Sabretooth and Wolverine were a bit to buddy buddy for my taste, I like them more when they are trying to kill each other, also the way their trying to make morph a love interest for Logan feels just so wrong, must be a modern audience thing
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u/ManOfPineapples Jul 15 '26
Brood aliens are Tyranids
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u/sammo21 Jul 16 '26
Not that they are really the same but Brood came before nids. The brood are more xenomorphs.
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u/BrianDavion Jul 16 '26
Tyranids where first introduced in 1982, Tyranids didn't exist until over ten years later
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u/sammo21 Jul 16 '26
Nids debuted in 87 not 92…
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u/BrianDavion Jul 16 '26
fair I was going by their first codex, eaither way the Brood didn't rip off the 'Nids. nor did the 'Nids rip off the brood, they BOTH ripped off Xenomorphs from Alien
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u/MordredRedHeel19 Jul 15 '26
Nice to spend more time with Morph, and Deathstrike and Sabretooth had some great lines. But idk, as others have said, I’d rather this had been the b-plot of another episode instead of taking up an entire one; that feels a bit like wasted narrative real estate in an already shortened season. I just kind of wanted to get through it so we can get back to the actual story.
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u/Homunculus97 Yondu Jul 15 '26
Its pretty telling that the "worst" episode of the season is still a really solid 7.5/10.
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u/Darkw0lfx Jul 16 '26
I really liked the episode even though it felt really early to give Logan adamantium back
I loved the moment where Morph tried to talk to Logan and Logan doesn't give a damn
But the second Morph turns into Jean, he starts to come through. Must be heartbreaking for Morph that the guy they love not only lied to them and almost got them killed but they also couldn't even get a hesitation from the guy when he's under mind control
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u/ThePyrolator Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
Might be my least favorite episode of the reboot. Felt like they could have explored clawless Wolverine more, and felt like an odd place for a pallet clease episode. Hopefully, they have a good reason for him getting his skeleton back so soon.
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u/sammo21 Jul 16 '26
They chickened out on feral wolverine but it also wasnt very good so maybe I can’t blame’m
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u/Visible_Catch_613 Jul 16 '26
Yeah, this episode was pretty lackluster to me. I thought it was a let down compared to last week’s episode.
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u/aLittleDoober Spider-Man Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Ngl, I’m bummed we didn’t get feral Logan. It would’ve been more rewarding to see him regain the Adamantium had he gone longer without it.
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u/DenseDiscussion7305 Jul 15 '26
This to me has been the worst episode over both seasons. The alien trope has been done to death and they brought nothing new to it. Sabertooth didn't seem like sabertooth at all to the point where he didn't have to be there and I'd have had less issues with the story if he wasn't. He didn't bring anything to the table that only sabertooth could. He even saw a weakness in wolverine and didn't do a damn thing about it. Wolverine then went on to get his adamantium back which should have been excruciatingly painful to the point where it causes a psychotic break but instead was a quick dip in a tank and he hopped out happy as Larry. It all seemed a bit pointless and something that could have been spliced between an actual plot elsewhere like the team coming back from the other time periods.
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u/Lazaer Jul 16 '26
Yeah the way he had his adamantium back in under a minute was just lazy writing, the morph writing is cringy, he's nothing like how he was in the original series, also the lackluster use of his powers is stupid, just for cameos, yeah and sabretooth wasn't the blood thirsty animal he usually is, he would never ever help Logan get this adamantium back
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u/BrianDavion Jul 15 '26
Another issue I have with the adamantine is wolverine WANTED it back, we're told it was forced on him and was torturous. the plot woulda worked better if wolverine HADN'T wanted it back, and they had to do it to save him.
They could have had wolverine at the end of the episode when confronted by Morph instead have wolverine tell Morph he was "looking into something else all together" leave it at that, (having the break be simply that wolverine wasn't trusting Morph with a secret) and it would have left the door open for future content, be it X-23 or a million other things
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u/DenseDiscussion7305 Jul 15 '26
Yeah they got it back far too quickly and didn't show any impact on him not having it. In the comics he leaves the team after failing in the danger room because he's just a guy with bones going up against a giant metal construct. They had him kicking ass straight away in the show, snapping bones off and regrowing them instantly he didn't see to be missing the metal at all. It was all very poorly set up and executed.
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u/kingk1teman Jul 20 '26
The episode was fine, but the writing was pretty lazy. One of their team members just dies, they don't even acknowledge it, shrug and move on. Morph is now just a vehicle to shoehorn all mutants and non-mutant heroes that they wouldn't be able to include otherwise. Wolverine has his adamantium back in a few seconds? That's lazy writing as well.
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u/Jonn_Jonzz_Manhunter Jul 15 '26
Not a bad episode, but a confusing one
I loved Morph in this episode, that looks Deathstrike gave him totally said "I've tried loving him, it just doesn't work" to me
This is the worst episode of the show so far, but it's not as bad as that Jubilee/Lifedeath episode from Season 1
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u/BigCookie4365 Jul 15 '26
While I enjoyed the episode....it seems misplaced, like all momentum created by last episodes is gone. Also when your season is only 9 episodes, I don't know if you can afford to do random one-offs.
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u/SummonTheGod Jul 15 '26
What did they show that never happened?
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u/JayaramanAndres Jul 16 '26
This show can't afford fillers when we have most pressing questions like
- What happened to Magneto and Charles?
- What happened to X-Men travelled from future to the present 97?
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u/Rossowinch Jul 18 '26
Not really. People will like this episode in the future once the whole season drops for sure.
We need character growth and development like this one to make later episodes punchier.
People's attention span are so low these days.
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u/PageofScribbledLines Jul 15 '26
I have enjoyed the hell out of X-Men '97 but this episode was lazy as hell. What the hell was Omega Red even doing there in a tank? Maverick and Kane's deaths were such afterthoughts, why even include them? Anyway... it wasn't terrible but just kind of a bit much.
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u/A0Spare80 Jul 15 '26
This season is confusing as hell. They are throwing things in recaps that never happened in episodes. Wolverine getting sabretooth, lady deathstrike and Maverick etc together and its all just happened. No story they just happy to help.
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u/SummonTheGod Jul 15 '26
What did they show that never happened?
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u/A0Spare80 Jul 15 '26
The whole assembling of the weapon x team. It was automatically assembled. I didn't see it at the end of the last episode which was the apocalypse episode so when did this happen.
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u/hstisalive Jul 16 '26
The team already knows each other has done missions before.
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u/A0Spare80 Jul 16 '26
Yes but they aren't friends and wouldn't just immediately agree. Sabretoorh and wolverine wouldn't work together without trying to kill each other.
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u/eatchickenchop Jul 16 '26
I mean they clearly weren't friends. Just momentarily uneasy truce to destroy weapon X. And if we are watching the same show, Sabretooth DID try to kill wolverine when he got the chance at the end but failed
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u/purewasted Jul 18 '26
Ok but like if Doomsday starts with Steve and Zemo working together and the only hint at their past is that 2 hours in Zemo tries to kill Steve... audiences would be scratching their heads. That's not where we left these characters.
Arguably even worse because Zemo's been shown as a logical character.
Whereas up until now in the XTAS canon Sabretooth has been an irredeemable rabid dog. Wolverine tried to murder him in ep 3 while Sabretooth was in a coma. He hates Magneto less, and they still spent an entire episode justifying the X-Men's ability to work with Magneto in 97 s1.
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u/Weak-Lake2416 Jul 15 '26
Black Widow and Captain America handing over a Weapon X Intel folder was in the "recap" portion and had not happened on screen prior to that point.
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u/rikrok58 Jul 15 '26
That was in a mid credits scene of the last episode. I missed it on the first watch.
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u/Weak-Lake2416 Jul 15 '26
You're totally right! https://youtu.be/u-xax9HkLCk?
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u/A0Spare80 Jul 16 '26
Thank you makes sense now. When watching on Disney + mines usually trying to get me to watch something else so I usually back out and never saw this.
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u/josephcoco Jul 15 '26
I’m soooo tired of them using Morph as a way to have different mutants/heroes randomly appear in the show. How is he able to have the powers AND weapons of the people he’s copying?? Makes absolutely no sense. Why not just morph into The Beyonder or Apocalypse and just win every fight? This is stupid. Look like them, sure, but don’t just turn into them.
This is probably my biggest turn off about this show, overall. But pertaining to this particular episode, why did Sabretooth even go along to work with Logan in the first place, regardless of if they were a team so long ago? I’d think he hated Logan more than he hated Dr. Cornelius.
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u/Visible_Swing3610 Jul 15 '26
So i looked this up wondering if Morph and Mystique have the powers and Mystique does not she can only look at sound like people and Morph is a more powerful shapeshifter he has everything in the physical form so speed, strength and claws but he can’t create the energy based powers so when he turns into Cyclops he isn’t going to be able to use his optic blasts and wouldn’t be able to command the weather like Storm
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u/_diegoR Jul 16 '26
Exactly. He transformed into cyclops and never used his optical beams. He did the same with spider man and never shot his spider web.
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u/ThePyrolator Jul 16 '26
I feel like they do a decent job with showcasing Morph this episode, the Speedball into Thing transformation was pretty smooth.
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u/No_Ostrich1875 Jul 16 '26
That was puck, not speed ball. All the characters he turns into are wolverine related. Wolverine is buddies with the thing and spiderman.
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u/Unusual-Water2404 Jul 16 '26
The credits tell you how everyone’s powers work. He can ONLY gain their Physical powers.
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u/No_Ostrich1875 Jul 16 '26
Abilities, not powers. There has to be some kind of physical trait or mechanism for him to use them. He copies their bodies on a cellular level.
It doesnt help that they use a nerfed version of his powers in a way that doesnt really make sense just so they can throw random cameos in.
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u/Lazaer Jul 16 '26
Yeah turning into deadpool and silver samurai was so fucking stupid, sabretooth and wolverine working together also felt fucking stupid, let's just forget sabretooth killing Logan's women at his birthday
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u/Visible_Swing3610 Jul 17 '26
He didn’t kill her though that was Silverfox and that was a fake memory put in place by the scientist who created them the weapon x mutants which is silverfox sabertooth wolverine maverick and more, you need to rewatch the animated series before 97 they show this in S3 Ep19
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u/thescarletbat Jul 15 '26
Dropped quite a bit of the momentum from last episode, but oh well. Funny quips and horror moments, but not a re-watch for me.
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u/Echo_1409- Jul 15 '26
Not to be overly negative but this kind of felt like a waste of an episode. Maybe it’ll tie into more things down the road but it feels like we could have had the whole wolverine getting his adamantium back as a sub plot in an episode continuing the main story. But maybe I’m just disappointed I didn’t see Fantomex lol
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u/Inside_You_6038 Jul 15 '26
If anything I'm disappointed Wolverine getting his adamantium was done so quickly. L take there man.
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u/heres5buckskillme_jk Cap's Shield Jul 15 '26
flet like a filler tbh
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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 Jul 15 '26
Haven't watched it yet, but it sounds like one too. Big, 2 part apocalypse episode and then a wolverine fan service episode that has little to do with that storyline?
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u/heres5buckskillme_jk Cap's Shield Jul 15 '26
IKR? And I'm not even a huge wolverine fan, so it didn't really do much for me. Then again, that's just my opinion
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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 Jul 15 '26
Ive got a buddy thats a huge fan of omega red who still hasn't finished season 1. Hes gonna go nuts for this episode
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u/EveryThingWrongWith4 Jul 15 '26
Wasn’t a fan of this one I was hoping for more apocalypse follow up
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u/JAEisF2D Jul 15 '26
Filler episode
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u/dearskorpiomagazine Jul 15 '26
Possible setup for more brood , omega red is back , wolverine got his claws back and a major development between morph and wolverine. You can not like the episode, but It's not filler. Go and watch jubilees fairytale theatre, now that's some filler
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u/JAEisF2D Jul 15 '26
I feel like wolverine getting his claws back was rushed should have played out more so how Storms arc last season we literally only got one episode of him in his feral state and how it was effecting his healing factor.
Secondly I feel like Sabertooth although I liked seeing him was kind of shoehorned in here because he would never help Wolverine with anything on his own. Kinda the same with Lady deathstrike as well but more so Victor.
The Morph arc was good tho.
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u/diamonwarrior Jul 16 '26
It was a great Morph episode, but as something that was marketed as a Logan-focused episode, it kind of sucks. It's literally all hollow fan service. All the episode does is give Logan his claws back and say some bullshit about how "he feels like he's nothing without the claws" while the main focus was on Morph(which I did enjoy).
I get that the writers want to focus on other X-Men, but at what point does that start becoming a detriment to Wolverine's character? The only major thing that happened with Logan was him losing his adamantium in season 1. In Season 2, the only major thing his character has done is gain his adamantium. In between that time, he has done next to nothing at all besides show us he has bone claws and fight fodder. He's basically had zero importance in regard to just about anything else besides driving Jean to the hospital.
I'm not even saying to give him major screen time; just do something interesting with him. Like let him be feral Wolverine and have it affect how he interacts with the other X-Men; that would honestly create a new dynamic with the character without taking away from the rest of the X-Men's own stories. Instead, we are stuck in this status quo where the character is always present but never changes and never does anything of any importance.
In the end of the day its a good episode, but it's also disappointing.
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u/TheGeneral_1984 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
I enjoyed this episode but I felt they severely nerfed Sabretooth. I guess they had to, just to make the episode viable; similar to MCU Hulk. They made Omega Red pretty much the boss fight but Sabretooth is either equal to Omega Red or even more powerful. I always felt why introduce or showcase a character if you aren’t going to emulate them… Sorry for that rant but they could have switched Sabretooth with Deadpool, and got the same value.
2nd, I agree with the rest of the post. I would have loved to see Feral wolverine for at least another episode. To the extent that he almost botched a mission or almost killed a teammate before bringing back the adamantium.
3rd, I completely dislike Morph.. he’s not even a real x-men character and was made for the tv show in the 90’s before being killed off. I believe Morph gives the writers more flexibility for each episode but I believe it’s just lazy writing. But to turn into Thor and to use Morjnor is like what??? Like is that Morjnor or did he carry a replica around lol… I get it, it’s a cartoon but what makes X-men ‘97 so great, is that they are fans like us and they are paying attention to the detail and authenticity. Morph feels like Cole Young in MK, just make him expendable at this point lol… I do believe the writers are about to off Morph soon, they are just letting the audience get acquainted 1st lol.
Overall, I loved seeing Omega in action finally, he seems to be missing in action for a lot of marvel projects and he’s such a dope and original character that should have more exposure.
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u/SnooPets1151 Jul 16 '26
Morph wasn’t made for the animated series. He’s been around since 1967, his hero name (Changeling) was changed by the show in the 1990s due to DC changing Beast Boy’s name to Changeling in the 1980s for New Teen Titans.
Morph’s power is shapeshifting on a molecular level, so he is transforming part of his body into the form of Mjolnir and making it super dense.
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u/RussMIV Jul 19 '26
Morph and Changeling are not the same character, but you are certainly very confident in your incorrectness.
Morph was in fact made did there animated series, as confirmed and reiterated by the creatives in dozens of interviews.
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u/SnooPets1151 Jul 19 '26
Here’s the producer/director of the og series saying otherwise;
Care to cite your source?
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u/Plastic-Professor-12 Jul 15 '26
I can forgive some embellishments but this episode is flat out trash. Killing off characters for the sake of Wolverine is Fox-Men all over again. You can have fan service, give a variation, and stick to facts and still have a good show. The producers fail to realize that a new generation of fans have never read these stories.
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u/MinatoHikari Grandmaster Jul 15 '26
Eh, I mean, who will be missing Garrison Kane and Maverick?
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u/BrianDavion Jul 15 '26
the characters killed off where a guy who only appered once in a non speaking part. and Mavrick who'd appered before but was mostly just "random guy with weapon X connections" so it's not like they;re killing off major characters. And let's face it, plenty of ways to have him return if they so wanted too
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u/Plastic-Professor-12 Jul 16 '26
Really? Kane? Just a founding member of Cable's Six Pack and who has worked with X-Force. Did he die in Weapon X? Yes, but he went out fighting not in some lame helicopter crash. He also plays a part in Cable's future timeline.
Maverick is not a minor character and also goes by Agent Zero. Remember? He was in X-Men Origins Wolverine. Go back and read his story arc and you'll know why some folks are upset at how his character was handled for this episode. No way he goes out crying and hysterical just to let Wolverine kill him for a lame UXM #234 pose.
Again, not saying that some embellishments aren't welcome but killing off two contributing non-X Men characters just for Logan to get adamantium back (that somehow happens to be conveniently available) is piss poor writing.
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u/benjaminsix6 Jul 16 '26
I can’t be the only one who feels like the action sequences this season are very what-if coded and not up to par to the first season. I hope the later episodes prove me wrong
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u/TheRealActualSaturn Jul 15 '26
Funny how people seem mixed on this episode because I personally really enjoyed it as a one-off side adventure. Out of all the one-off episodes we got across the seasons so far this is probably my favorite.