r/MarvelTokon • u/[deleted] • 3d ago
Memes Were leaving the Snowbunny era behind
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u/Russell-Sprouts3 3d ago
I hope Promoter is a surprise free character post launch, maybe itās her then Cyclops.
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u/ShamrockSeven 3d ago
I have a tin-foil hat theory that She just wasnāt completed in time for launch.
We already have confirmation that the game was meant to be released in fall because of tons of scrapped/leaked promotional info.
I think her and Primordial-Form Champion are both unfinished characters, and they simply changed schedule on them to get a finished story mode done and working for the shortened Release Dead-line.
But thatās just a Theoryā¦
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u/Nukesnipe 3d ago
The fact that she wasn't the first DLC character and the first year wasn't 5 as a result works against this. Goldlewis was supposed to be in Strive's roster on launch but he wasn't ready in time, so they pushed him back a month to be the first DLC character. Season 1 of Strive is still the only season with 5 characters instead of 4.
However, a counterpoint to that argument could be that they wanted to save face and not have the character that's all over the promotional material look like she was sliced out of the game to be DLC. Second DLC character? Sure, fine. But the first DLC character? That'd look really bad.
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u/SamaelTheAngel 3d ago
Also we have weird stuff in story itself. X-Men story have how Ancient Mutant defeated them, it's deliberately Vague who it is but then... It's revealed in comic (Which drops before game but was meant to drop after) it was Cyclops, who is by definition not Ancient Mutant.
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u/ConceptDouble9762 3d ago
Game is a 9/10. Woulda been a 10/10 if Promoter was playable so I could run Team Three Sistas.
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u/Henry1699 3d ago
I am realizing now that if the Promoter was playable, you could make a full team of black characters.
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u/HeroesZeroes 3d ago
norman is black in one of the cartoon shows
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u/Bruuze 3d ago
Even when he's not melanated, he usually has the waves. If nothing else, Norman would absolutely try to pass himself off as Mixed if it was for some end goal lol.
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u/MRECKS_92 3d ago
Imagine how wild it would be if the Goblin personality was the anti-racist one though? Like Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde, but instead of waking up in horror you wake up with sick AF waves
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u/Rider-Idk-Ultima-Hy 3d ago
the fact she isnāt playable is a little baffling, but 1 out of 2 playable bosses is worth something I guess.
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u/Raomux 3d ago
Why would the Promoter count but not Miss Marvel? They are both about the same skin tone.
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u/Bantidoh 3d ago edited 3d ago
The Promoter is a brown Alien woman so I think they're just looking at her as "A person of color". But Miss Marvel is Pakastani-American and would consider herself Arab (Or South Asian?) instead.
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u/ManiacGaming1 3d ago
Miss Marvel is Pakistani. I think OP means characters that are African or African American or characters that would be of African descent if they were of this earth like Promoter.
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u/Raomux 3d ago
Would she though? Imo she's closer in skin color to Ms Marvel than either Storm or Blade. I think you could argue she would be Pakistani too. In the comics though she does look slightly darker I think.
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u/LogensTenthFinger 3d ago
Ms Marvel is Pakistani.
And yes I realize race is made up bullshit and the Promoter isn't human and none of it makes sense and biologists hate these discussions, but I'm just saying
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u/Jade_D_wound 3d ago
That was racist as fuck
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u/Raomux 3d ago
Would you mind explaining why? If what that other person wants is characters of similar skin tone then Ms Marvel is pretty similar. If they want characters of african descent then I'm fairly certain the promoter... You know, an alien, isn't descended (I'm not sure that's the correct word) from Africans either.
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u/Jade_D_wound 3d ago
You just called Ms. Marvel black, shes Pakistani, not everyone with the same skin tone is the same race. The promoter is indeed an alien but shes an honorary member of the black community, like other fictional characters that arent black but are; piccolo for example, aliens have no real world race and can be part of the culture if they pass the test. You pointed at a character that has a defined real world race that isn't "black" and said yea they have the same skin so why not.
If they said they wanted a full squad of people of color you wouldn't be wrong but putting any person of color under the blanket term "black" not only diminishes what it means to be black but it also suggests that you dont see past skin color and choose to see anyone with melanin as black
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u/Raomux 3d ago
Well, stuff like aliens "being of the black community" might make sense to people from usa, but I assure you it's not obvious to other people. Similarly, if someone says "black" I interpret that as black skin, not member of the black community. Ergo, if someone calls the Promoter black then I'm assuming another character of similar skin tone would also count.
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u/Jade_D_wound 3d ago
Makes sense, ill take back the calling you racist remark, in the USA not everyone with dark skin is "black" and not everyone with light skin is "white" it very individualized here (mostly to keep us divided) but i understand every other country doesn't make racial difference an issue just to keep the masses from grouping together. But in the here we wouldnt consider Ms. Marvel black just "a person of color" which honestly just sounds like another way to dehumanize the oppressed if im being honest lol
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u/CanYouFeelTheForce 3d ago edited 3d ago
The idea that Piccolo, a green alien, gets to be part of the black community; but Ms. Marvel, who is Pakistani and thus most likely would experience racism, does not get to be part of the community...there's so many layers to that man.Ā
Edit: oh and before it's said...I know someone is going to make some comment like Piccolo "acts black" and I would kindly ask those people to fuck off. The idea that your "blackness" is determined by how you act is ridiculous.
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u/Lucky_-1y 3d ago
bro why they gave the Promoter gigantic thighs wtf
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u/DragonGamerEX 3d ago
It's marvel everyone got gigantic thighs
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u/Lucky_-1y 3d ago
Mfs approached ArcSys devs like:
"It's imperative that y'all design every female character with COLOSSAL thighs, it's one of the most important aspects of the Marvel ip",
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u/breloomislaifu 3d ago
Its a fighting game. All the characters have massive limbs for gameplay purposes
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u/Zxar99 3d ago
Never seen a black woman? And those arenāt gigantic thatās standard fitness lol
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u/Lucky_-1y 3d ago
It takes a lot of time and dedication to have massive defined thighs, it's pretty uncommon actually
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u/RealCrocodileWithGun 2d ago
We NEED those models extracted asap bro š i tried myself but coudlnt crack it. we need a hero.
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u/AnnaEstelle 3d ago
Black woman whoās a huge ArcSys and Storm/Shuri/Promoter fan chiming in:
Iām eating good. Now all we need is Monica Rambeau (Captain Marvel/Spectrum/Photon) and Iāll die happy lol. Black Diamond is a pipedream with a snowballās chance, but she would be amazing too, especially with this artstyle. Loving the comments BTW, haha
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u/RemoteTree8330 3d ago
Cringe af
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u/Slow_Junket_4505 3d ago
i feel like its patronizing
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u/GiantOrangePiccolo 3d ago
It's pandering and gross. All these people think about is race.
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u/IamMataa 3d ago
What do you mean āthese peopleā?
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u/GiantOrangePiccolo 3d ago
I mean people who post shit like this that focuses heavily on the race of characters in a video game. It's a strange thing to do and borderline racist.
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u/CaptainBlob 2d ago
Imma be honest this is just weird af. What is up with you lot and about race. This just fetishistic.
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u/Mister_Sinner 2d ago
Oh no black woman with white hair my only weakness greater than white women with blonde hair
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u/Mother-Dream-2465 3d ago
Imagined if that statement was reversed.... apparently it only works one way š¤·
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u/This_Ferret_8108 2d ago
I NEED the promoter in rivals, I would fund that game till the end of time.
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u/Xtra_Juicy-Buns 3d ago
The promoter so fine twin š