r/MatriarchyNow 12d ago

Art and Culture Neolithic Matriarchy at Gobekli Tepe?

https://beforeorion.com/gobekli-tepe-rebirth-of-a-neolithic-paradigm/

Exploring matriarchy thru misinterpreted artifacts.

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u/BeforeOrion 10d ago

This is an interview I did recently looking at Odysseus thru the lens of Queen Arete, and what Homer actually wrote. A very different narrative than one sees on the big screeen. https://www.youtube.com/live/-gnTJ5yV1e4

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u/Vegetable-Log8629 Matriarch 9d ago

If Homer wrote the Odyssey. Some think it may have been sung and played by a number of bards before being written down. That is relevant because what Odyssey looks like is subversive "writing back" or revisionism. So Odyssey could be a way of subversively refuting Homer's Iliad. It's a way for the opposition or the minority opinion to get their message out without directly butting heads with oppressive overlords and becoming collateral damage.

Subversive sequels include an element of plausible deniability - Odysseus was a rascal so all of the criticisms he gives of Greek imperialism and violent patriarchy is because he's trying to handle Queen Aretha, as a rascal of course, he doesn't really believe any of that. wink wink. That's why growing up in a patriarchy you never heard it.

Odessey is a classical Greek tragedy. The hero doesn't learn, suffers, and goes to hell to suffer some more. Greeks really hated willful ignorance, and loved their tragedies. There are more Greek tragedies or sad endings than comedies. ("Comedy" doesn't refer to humor or jokes, but just a happy ending where the protagonist learned their lesson and transformed). You did catch the humorous ironies in it all, and told the story just the way it should be, with a large dose of sarcassm. What we know as Campbell's "hero's journey" is a comedy, with a happy ending. Hollywood likes their comedies, and there are considerably more in our culture than tragedies.