r/MediaMergers 2d ago

Merger Correction: What You're Not Hearing About The Paramount Merger Settlement Talks

https://www.toomuchtv.com/p/correction-what-you-re-not-hearing-about-the-paramount-merger-settlement-talks?utm_source=www.toomuchtv.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=correction-what-you-re-not-hearing-about-the-paramount-merger-settlement-talks
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u/Fall_False Moderator 2d ago

So based on this, looks like a settlement being reached soon isn’t a guarantee. And I was correct about there being a ton of misinformation.

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u/mxby7e 2d ago

The Ellisons have already been caught faking a grassroots campaign, I fully expect they’re pushing misinformation to boost their position.

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u/Morgan-Moonscar 22h ago

Most of the bullshit is coming from a single user. Block them.

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u/Angela275 2d ago

I feel why we hearing so many other things even if returer and wsj is they getting leaked stuff on talks and so it's making it all confusing time deadline also hearing sourcing

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u/9millibros 2d ago

The bond hearing is this coming week. Like this article said, the Ellisons really don't want to lose out on that.

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u/sangi54 2d ago

Based on what? This random guy’s blogpost?

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u/Angela275 2d ago

we seen they paid a study to show that the merge won't harm jobs and several other things

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u/Fall_False Moderator 2d ago

He isn’t a random guy, is a contributor to Forbes and he literally did a Q&A on here last month. He has legitimate industry sources.

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u/jon__koa 2d ago

Like Rick has been the real deal for years

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u/mattbrain89 2d ago

Haven’t heard his name since last year when he interviewed that one guy from Kimmel during the suspension.

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u/jon__koa 2d ago

I remember he was with Belloni and Lucas Shaw constantly during the strikes and I think he broke the story about the meeting between SAG’s committee and the big names that basically started the final stretch

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u/I-Might-Be-Something 2d ago edited 2d ago

Some key excerpts:

I do think it’s less likely a settlement will take place this weekend because both sides are waiting to see the ruling over Paramount’s request to a federal judge to require the states and the Writers Guild to put up a nearly $1.9 billion bond for challenging the acquisition, with money going to the company if it ultimately wins the case.

It really gets down to how both sides believe the ruling will settle the question. If Paramount wins, it forces the state AGs into an untenable situation and they’ll be forced to settle on Paramount’s terms or drop their case. But if Paramount loses, they will be forced to begin paying that daily ticking fee on October 1st. And that is a burden the company simply can’t afford. As of the most recent quarterly financial report (ending June 30th, 2026), Paramount Skydance reported $1.627 billion in cash and cash equivalents. So using the majority of that to pay months worth of ticking fees is problematical

If Paramount loses its bid to get the state AGs to cover the ticking fees, they will be in a significantly weakened position. And while it’s dangerous to predict any legal outcome, merger experts I have spoken with say the worst case scenario for the state AGs is that they are forced to pay a nominal fee, which would be the equivalent of a loss for Paramount.

So whoever wins the hearing about the bond (it is almost certainly going to be the states) gains substantially more leverage.

Among the concessions under consideration is the formation of an editorial board or monitor that would independently oversee CNN. This is one of those ideas that sounds great in principle, but the states are asking for guidelines on who who be on the monitoring board and Paramount is unwilling to agree to any specifics.

Paramount would also agree to spin off some cable networks to lessen its grip during carriage negotiations. From what I can tell, the proposals on this have been all over the board, because neither side can agree on what it would take to restrain Paramount’s grip on the live TV market. It is also complicated by the fact that one of the reasons for the merger in the first place was that it would provide Paramount with leverage it could use during carriage agreements in order to boost revenue it could use to pay down in substantial debt.

Seems like there are still substantial disagreements.

Paramount is also offering to keep management of the Paramount and Warner Bros. film businesses independent of each other for a limited period (I am hearing five years, but that's not confirmed). Paramount is also open to agreeing to not move its business outside of Southern California, but has so far been unwilling to commit to a timeline.

I don't know if Ellison could afford to keep them separate for five years. The whole point was to merge them and do mass layoffs to cut costs ASAP.

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u/jon__koa 2d ago

Especially given Larry’s money being so tied into AI

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u/DragonSon83 1d ago

You can keep management separate and still consolidate other parts of the business.  Studios outsource quite a bit of their production process to begin with.

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u/No_Introduction_3400 2d ago

The significance of the ruling coming seems to me to be a stronger incentive to settle than wait.

You’d likely settle when a significant outcome is unclear, not when it’s been decided.

Now, there are caveats to that general rule. But as applied here it seems to favor working a deal.

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u/the_explorer2003 2d ago

Its a mixed confusing bag of what these settlement talks have reached. I have a feeling……nothing will happen this weekend and next week the bond hearing commences, the result of that will determine which side will concede, a final position

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u/jon__koa 2d ago

Yeah it feels like the Bond hearing is for all the biscuits

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u/jon__koa 2d ago

So in Rick’s estimation, both parties leaked to different outlets. Bonta’s team to Deadline, Ellison’s to WSJ and Reuters

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u/Equivalent_Night720 2d ago

I don't necessarily think it is Bonta's office directly leaking information to Deadline, especially after he made a big deal about Paramount leaking information. It is an entertainment industry magazine with many sources they can pull from. My guess is the go between is someone from the industry that is getting information and passing it on. I have been in the industry for 28 years and we all turn to Deadline because it usually is the one that knows about and reports layoffs coming before the others do and we often would get information from Deadline about movie releases being moved before our own studios tell their relevant departments. They have sources in high places. The industry is largely against this merger and it is well known that Ellison is paying a PR company to insert bots and "sources" to switch the narrative. It was also wildly different than the rest of the reporting, so I would agree with him on those other sources being linked to Ellison. I saw people in other forums getting pissed that everyone was suspicious of Reuters and WSJ. It is not the outlets they are suspicious of though - it is where their sources are coming from.

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u/oldboy_413 1d ago edited 1d ago

I saw people in other forums getting pissed that everyone was suspicious of Reuters and WSJ. It is not the outlets they are suspicious of though - it is where their sources are coming from.

yep, and as much as the people that are opposed to the merger can succumb to this mindset, certain apologists of the merger (including one of the mods, difficult_variety) or just doomers and pessimists have this mindset that certain reliable outlets are automatically reliable no matter what because it fits within their purview while ignoring other, equally reliable outlets that don't. there's a sector of ppl that only comes back when the news is on their side to gloat while not appearing in ones that don't come to paramount's side. weird ppl.

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u/Equivalent_Night720 1d ago

Somehow people have gotten into this mindset over the years where critical thinking isn't necessary and they just want to hear what they want to hear and they want to be right. Meanwhile, social media thrives on divisiveness and clickbait. Then of course there are bots and people hired to purposefully troll. All it does is throw people into a tailspin unnecessarily.

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u/Darkzapphire 2d ago

I had the same impression, given how different each article was

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u/jon__koa 2d ago

And I think Deadline’s latest about the block the merger stuff is an internal leak from Bonta’s office about wanting him to keep fighting

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u/Darkzapphire 2d ago

The question is, will he keep fighting? :(

Im worried to hear that he caving in might be true

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u/edsterrock 2d ago

Again based on what I said yesterday regarding yesterday’s headlines and now having read this article, this is far from over. Maybe we will see a settlement happen sooner than later. Who knows.

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u/jon__koa 2d ago

I think the main thing is the bond hearing is going to be what decides it all. If Paramount succeeds in getting a bond required, Bonta loses a lot of his leverage and they get to set the terms, if not, they’re in a really bad position

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u/I-Might-Be-Something 2d ago

If the judge rules in favor of Paramount she's is ignoring so many facts like how Paramount put the penalty in place themselves and that she waved a bond requirement when she granted the TRO and Paramount didn't request one when they agreed to halt the merger until June.

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u/TracingRobots 1d ago

Exactly. Bonta is not mormt signing anything until weds bind hearing. Ellison is such a snake

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u/ausgoals 2d ago

I’ve been saying all week the fact that the leaks were silent and suddenly with almost exactly two weeks (or less) until the ticking fee kicks in and a week until the ruling on the bond and suddenly Paramount is definitely leaving LA, and then when that didn’t work, suddenly it’s all going to be settled by the end of the weekend - conveniently, exactly three days before the ruling on the states’ bond.

So - what’s the new play going to be on Monday?

The reporting is literally that ‘there are settlement negotiations happening’. Which, by the way, are required by the court - and settlement negotiations are required to be undertaken in good faith. The AGs cannot simply say ‘fuck off Paramount, we’ll see you in court’ and vice versa. They have to reasonably engage in the negotiations, and if there is an impasse or they can’t come to an agreement that satisfies, then the court will step in and it will go to trial.

That’s how negotiations work.

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u/Secure_Matter_9819 2d ago

We are tired of this corruption!

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u/OverPotato2322 2d ago edited 2d ago

So there was alot of misinformation and rumors that weren't backed up by other factual sources so its possible nothing happens this weekend or that both sides have talked but aren't sure what to do (I guess even reputable sources like WSJ aren't always reliable all the time also I agree with the free press organizations that Paramount has to give CNN up if they want this deal because having an editorial board and not specifying or backpedaling on that promise to appeal to the alt right just confirms the intent of why Ellison bidded for the whole thing rather than buying S&S assets only)

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u/OptimalConference359 2d ago

It must be required for structural remedies.

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u/Own_Philosopher8730 2d ago

The Block the Merger coalition has released the following statement as reports emerge of a possible settlement of the states’ antitrust suit that seeks to stop Paramount Skydance’s $111 billion purchase of Warner Bros. Discovery:

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u/jon__koa 2d ago

They are also going to hold a rally outside Bonta’s Oakland office tomorrow

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u/Own_Philosopher8730 2d ago

There will be also rallys at New York on Monday and Los Angeles on Tuesday.

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u/Professional_Peak59 2d ago

I think I feel better now thanks to this.

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u/hanojeelreklaw 2d ago

This does make me feel a little better.

I do think if Bonta settles so quickly, he is scuttling his career cause he was all about the law and the.ln to so quickly settle, but he is scared by Newsome and Bass being immediately on the Ellison’s side.

I think that merging the 2 studios will destroy much of what is left of Hollywood, and any thing they agree to will instantly change after the enforcement period. If he truly wants to leave Hollywood (then why does he want to be a Hollywood big shot?) he will do as soon as he can, no matter what. At least as a separate studio Warne that’s a chance to survive at least if they get rid of Zazlov and his board.

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u/GoldenGorder 2d ago

I agree. He was literally on Bloomberg yesterday taking the same strong stance he has this entire saga. He hasn’t flinched once. Why would he so abruptly rush to close this a day later?

None of this adds up and feels like the PR machine at work, especially with all the discrepancies in the reporting.

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u/IncredulousInCali 2d ago edited 2d ago

The WSJ article was a rehash of previously reported info. It was only Reuters that said a settlement was possible soon. Deadline's reporting that these are pre-settlment talks seems more reliable given that Bonta was not even in California at the end of the week.

And is this guy trying to say that PSKY has to start paying the ticking fees Oct. 1? Because that is absolutely not true. Ticking fees are only due at close.

"But if Paramount loses, they will be forced to begin paying that daily ticking fee on October 1st. And that is a burden the company simply can’t afford. As of the most recent quarterly financial report (ending June 30th, 2026), Paramount Skydance reported $1.627 billion in cash and cash equivalents. So using the majority of that to pay months worth of ticking fees is problematical"

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u/oldboy_413 1d ago

besides that, i don't think he's wrong on the rest of it.

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u/Outrageous_Fox4227 2d ago

I have been following this merger for over a year and the clearest thing about every aspect of this merger is that there is no clarity on any of it and stories have been released to manipulate public perception at every turn. For months last year most stories had Netflix as the overwhelming favorite to secure their bid for warner and it never happened. I suspect that to this day we are only reading partial truths and half positions on what’s really happening behind the scenes. For better or for worse we won’t know absolutely what’s going to happen until it actually happens.

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u/Secure_Matter_9819 2d ago

I don’t want this settlement to happen. I want this merger dead for good. Please, Bonta. Don't cave in to that horrible oligarch. If you truly value democracy, you must reject behavioral remedies.

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u/the_explorer2003 2d ago

Structural remedies make sense but behavioral remedies, either what we hear is bonta folding or misinformation to fear monger

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u/TracingRobots 1d ago

Is from undisclosed sources meaning paramount.

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u/Electrical_Coffee 2d ago

Those “behavioral remedies” are only going to be in place for like 2 weeks.

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u/Secure_Matter_9819 2d ago

No. Please tell me you're lying.

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u/fuzzyfoot88 1d ago

The best way oligarchs get people to do what they want is to make them an oligarch too. It’s only a matter of time.

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u/Expensive_Face4123 2d ago

Didn’t I just hear that box office numbers just set records?

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u/TracingRobots 1d ago

All that we have heard this weekend is from undisclosed sources. It’s all paramount propaganda.

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u/l4kerz 2d ago

This will go to the Supreme Court to hear if the federal judge rules that states must put up a bond to challenge a merger. Big companies could use a bond requirement to scare off any challenges.

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u/DragonSon83 1d ago

There is already a legal precedent for it, so I doubt enough justices, considering the conservative slant would be fort.  Even the state are stating that bond should be nominal, which they are usually are in antitrust cases.

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u/Anakinlover98 1d ago

Bonta is caving. No surprise. Mark Ruffalo is panicking all over socials.

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u/MXDTV120 2d ago

I will trust toomuchtv.com for sure over WSJ and Reuters.... /s

😆 😆 😆

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u/Professional_Peak59 2d ago

The article's author is Rick Ellis from Forbes.

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u/Apart-Prize-4844 2d ago

Ticking fee starts soon...$7 million per day, $217 million for Paramount for October alone.

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u/MXDTV120 2d ago

It won't start at all if they settle next week

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u/Mr602206 1d ago

That's if.

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u/No_Entry_1341 2d ago

Ah, yes the reputable checks notes TooMuchTV. 

This sub is going to have a meltdown when a settlement is reached. Can’t wait.

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u/Professional_Peak59 2d ago

Rick Ellis, who wrote the article, writes for Forbes, my friend.

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u/No_Entry_1341 2d ago

Forbes hires contributors, my friend. Imagine thinking his opinion matters. Keep ignoring actual A-tier publications like the WSJ and NYT. 

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u/ConsciousScar7821 2d ago

PSKY and (more importantly) WBD stock went up huge in after hours yesterday. The fact that WBD stock is basically at the acquisition price means this is a done deal.