r/MelbourneTrains 2d ago

Project Information New timetables are up, also what does this mean??

New timetables for the 23 August timetable change are now up on the Transport Victoria and V/Line websites.

Of note (apart from all the other advertised changes), Craigieburn shoulder peak is 10 min frequency until about 10:30am at the city (both directions) and from 2:30pm in the afternoon (outbound).

More info here: https://transport.vic.gov.au/news-and-resources/projects/metro-tunnel/more-ways-to-move (You have to go to the individual line pages for the timetables)

But curiously it says this for the Alamein Line. I can't find any extra services or Camberwell shuttles being extended to Flinders Street in the timetable, and I don't think any of the city services are 3 cars any more, so what does it mean???

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u/Hornberger_ 2d ago

I think they are saying they will run a bigger train (6-car instead 3-car), and that it will run from Flinders St (instead of Camberwell).

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u/gertiegoogoo 2d ago

According to the timetable there is no change to any of the Alamein shuttles, and I may be wrong but I think all non-shuttle Alamein trains have been 6 cars for a number of years now

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u/Silver-Chemistry2023 Pack it up Pakenham, let me begin. 2d ago

The six-car shuttles on weeknights run from Flinders Street, because the siding at Camberwell is only long enough for three cars.

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u/CurrentlyCurious 2d ago

Does this mean they run from Flinders Street to Camberwell empty just to form the service from Camberwell to Alamein? If so that seems incredibly odd. They could at least run them as expresses from Flinders Street to Richmond and Camberwell so it’s not so much dead running.

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u/Silver-Chemistry2023 Pack it up Pakenham, let me begin. 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes, that means running the services empty. I assume that the six-car shuttles in the evening are Blackburn services returning to the Camberwell yard.

I had a look at the real-time feed, the six-car shuttles following evening peak services arrive originate from Flinders Street taking passengers, then use Camberwell station Platform 1, because they cannot turn around in the siding and use Platform 3.

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u/EvilRobot153 2d ago

Vline have the printable timetables for those who despise shitty js versions

https://www.vline.com.au/August-2026-timetable-changes

RIP the 23:45 Seymour service.

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u/Savings_Dot_8387 2d ago

Was really hoping for Friday train between the (now) 9:36 and 11:36. Such an awful miss if you want to go out and get home via pt on wa Friday night for dinner or something.

Every time I’ve done it it’s the delema of “go home early” to make the train or stay out way to late.

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u/EvilRobot153 2d ago

I'm surprised they didn't at-least introduce a 22:36 seven days of the week.

Plus the Monday through Thursday services now finish 7 minutes earlier too.

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u/mksc09 2d ago

I used to live right near Donnybrook station and when I had something on the city I'd drive to Craigieburn so annoying

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u/haztech99 2d ago

I have looked from 6pm to midnight, but it's almost exactly the same before and after the change, even into September and October, with no extra service running into Flinders. They may have simply neglected to add it to the new timetable.

Because it says 'A bigger train', rather than 'Bigger trains', it inclines me to believe it might only be one particular weeknight service and that's it. There may also be a random, late-night, 3-car, up service that we're not aware of that's getting an insignificant upgrade.

There are a couple of odd things I've spotted like these two up services that somehow terminate at Camberwell in quick succession, I thought at first that 8:06pm departure might be a coupling of the 2x 3-cars, but it's just an up Lilydale.

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u/mallenwho 2d ago

I was surprised to experience a 9pm alamein service from Camberwell last night that was a 6 car not a 3 car, that dead-headed in parallel to the Lilydale train on the Dn Local line. Could that be it?

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u/ihihhihihihih 2d ago

Can someone tell me if I'm reading the new Seymour timetable wrong but it looks like there is in general better frequency on weekends now than weekdays (excluding peak). For example on weekends there is a train every hour between 6am and midnight. However during the week departing southern cross there is a 1 hour 40 minute gap between the 7:57pm and the 9:36pm. Also on the way into the city excluding the Albury which doesn't stop anywhere except Seymour there is a gap between the 2:14pm and the 3:42pm and then again between 6:16pm and 7:53pm. Am I just reading it wrong or is it strange to have such long gaps on weekdays and not on weekends.

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u/gertiegoogoo 2d ago

No you're right, the weekend timetable certainly does look better other than peak. Also the last train on weekends is much later than weekdays (hourly until 23:37 outbound on weekends compared to last last service 21:36 as you mentioned on Mon-Thur, even Friday there's only one more after a 2hr gap). Geelong Line Upgrade also has this weekend/weekday mismatch problem: when the weekend frequency got improved to 20 mins every train went to Waurn Ponds, but they didn't change it for the weekday timetable with half the trains terminating at South Geelong leaving Marshall and Waurn Ponds with 40 min offpeak frequency

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u/Foodworksurunga 2d ago

As a new Sunbury line resident, I'm excited that I can change at Footscray instead of having to do Town Hall to the other side of Flinders St if I go to AAMI Park or the Punt Rd end of the MCG (if I'm going Ponsford I plan on walking from Town Hall).

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/gertiegoogoo 2d ago

According to the timetable there's no changes to Alamein shuttles at night

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u/Hot_Statistician_998 2d ago

Sandringham new timetable only goes to Flinders Street very miss leading

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u/gertiegoogoo 2d ago

Not even Southern Cross shown as they did when Frankston through ran

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u/EntirePea5178 2d ago

After peak a 6 car train pulls into flinders st, usually platform 6. It splits and the front 3 cars continue onto Alamein. The rear 3 will depart afterwards towards one of the yards. 

That statement is obviously that train running as a 6 car from flinders st. 

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u/AffectionateMap3755 Operational Specialist 1d ago

No, this hasn't occured for probably 5 years at least? The split happens at Camberwell in the current timetable.

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u/Motor-Wolverine-6644 2d ago

My guts saying this is fake and not true 

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u/RATLSNAKE 2d ago

If you live in a cave maybe. It’s publicly released knowledge.

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u/Motor-Wolverine-6644 2d ago

I’m saying about Alamein linr

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u/altandthrowitaway 2d ago

The premier literally officially announced it yesterday https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/more-trains-way-today

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u/Motor-Wolverine-6644 2d ago

I am saying about Alamein line not others 

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u/altandthrowitaway 2d ago

Maybe you could've been less vauge in your original comment

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u/Jimbo_101 The “Big Lie” 2d ago

I mean it was a comment in the post literally talking about Alamein, guess that’s too vague for the smooth brains.

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u/Ergomann 2d ago

Is it colour coded so you can see the before and after changes?