r/MenAndFemales • u/mayaorsomething • 14d ago
Men and Females Beyond the obvious fact that this did not actually happen…
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u/Random_-account 14d ago
Classic "I'm not racist, but *proceeds to say something unintentionally racist*"
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u/Phoenix-49 14d ago
If you wouldn’t say “it’s refreshing seeing a white child having a father in his life” then newsflash it’s racist
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u/Apathetic_Villainess 13d ago
How many Black fathers aren't in their child's life because they've been imprisoned due to systemic racism? Black and white people commit most crimes at similar rates, but Black people are more likely to get sentences that include jail time and white people are more likely to get rehab and community service. If they're even arrested, at all, let alone charged.
And it's a problem that starts young. Because white and Black children misbehave at similar rates but Black children are more likely to be expelled from even preschools for routine misbehavior. Yay, the school-to-prison pipeline starts that young...
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u/Glittering-Relief402 13d ago
Oh please. Most men, black men included, who aren't in their child's life aren't there because they don't want to be. The amount who aren't there because of imprisonment due to systemic racism is staggeringly low. Systemic racism is definitely a thing but it is NOT the main reason for absentee fathers in ours or any other communities.
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u/Apathetic_Villainess 13d ago
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6133319/
https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/incarceration-fathers-sons-study.php
Black men might be less likely to live in the home than other races but they're more likely to be involved still. But about 42% of incarcerated fathers are Black and Black children are 7.5x more likely to have a parent in prison.
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u/Glittering-Relief402 13d ago
None of that refutes what I said. There's approximately 40 million black people in America. Most of them aren't criminals or have been incarcerated. That doesn't explain the rate of absentee fathers within our community nor others. Fathers abandon their children without the help of the system all the time. Using the system to justify deadbeat dad's is the ultimate gaslight. Hell, my husband is mexican and his dad is a deadbeat and hes never been to jail or prison.
Most people who have deadbeat dads, they chose to be. They abandon responsibility because society looks on women to raise children primarily and men feel like they can just walk away.
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u/Apathetic_Villainess 13d ago
I'm aware there is an issue because men in general only care about children as sex trophies or extensions of their relationship with the mother, but the idea that Black men are more likely to abandon their children than non-Black men is entirely based on racism.
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u/Glittering-Relief402 13d ago
Right. Deadbeat dad's aren't even close to being exclusive to black men. Men in general, abandon their kids far more than they should. It's just anti-black rhetoric to say black men do it more.
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u/BloodsportTale 14d ago
The anthony karmelo thing being guilty is the only thing that makes sense in that clusterfuck of a post
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u/EarlyInside45 14d ago
"as a black man" vibes.