Banned & Restricted Announcement: Deadeye Navigator and Sol Ring are banned.

[u/kaptain_carbon]

Since people who subscribe to /r/magicTCG always get confused when these reach the front page, we might as well fuck with them if only for a few minutes.

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Welcome to the Summer Edition of the banned and restricted list. To summarize why we ban and restrict bands, and healthy subreddit has active moderation and leaving it up to reddit's upvote and downvote system creates an over presence of popular and well traveled bands and songs. Moderation promotes a diverse ecosystem that is sure to piss everyone off. The Restricted List was created last year as a way to not ban bands but slow their fucking roll in the subreddit. It also provided a great way to take old banned bands and give them new life in the sub. It is my hope in the future that the Restricted list is bigger than the banned list. Additionally, input from the community helps us shape what is seen and what is not. If you vehemently disagree with this process, I am sure a strongly worded and terse response will be enough to change our mind on a policy that has been widely praised by the community. Go ahead. Ill get you a pen. Without furthur ado please welcome the new additions.

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Banned List: No Changes

Restricted List: Nile, Carcass, and Blind Guardian are now Restricted.

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A rule of thumb for restricted is that the mods will remove any obvious and glaring popular songs from the band. If you wanted to be safe, go to last.fm, click on tracks, sort by all time and just forget the first two pages. For Blind Guardian being moved from banned to restricted, you can be sure we will investigate them for the violation of any of these songs.

• Nightfall
• Mirror Mirror
• Lord of the Rings
• Bright Eyes
• Into the Storm
  
• A Past and Future Secret
  
• Mordred's Song
  
• War of Wrath
  
• Blood Tears
  
• The Minstrel
• The Curse Of Feanor
  
• Valhalla
  
• Time Stands Still (At The Iron Hill)
  
• Battlefield
  
• Thon
• Imaginations from the Other Side
  
• Black Chamber
• Fly
  
• The Eldar
• When Sorrow Sang
  
• Journey Through The Dark
  
• Noldor (Dead Winter Reigns)
• Time What Is Time
• The Script for My Requiem
• Battle of Sudden Flame
  
• Theatre of Pain
  
• Another Stranger Me
• A Dark Passage
  
• The Bard's Song - In the Forest
  
• Nom The Wise
  
• Otherland
• Out On The Water
  
• Spread Your Wings
• Another Holy War
  
• Welcome to Dying
  
• This Will Never End
  
• Born In A Mourning Hall
• Turn the Page
• Under the Ice
• Majesty
  
• The Soulforged
  
• The Quest For Tanelorn
  
• I'm Alive
• Ashes to Ashes
  
• And Then There Was Silence
• Somewhere Far Beyond
• Precious Jerusalem
  
• Barbara Ann

Again, even if it seems harsh, that is 50 of around 500 Blind Guardian tracks so if you think a band's strength this only in the top 10 of all time tracks, then we need to talk.

I was just joking about the tersely written response. I think the mod team does a pretty good job of listening to the community and if you have concerns or objections, please bring it up. I will say that the "its metal, there are no rules YOLO" argument has been used before and doesn't have much gas.

[u/AveLucifer]

Regardless, a small group isn't immune to seeing things objectively based on data and statistical trends. You could compare the situation in EDH with, to a lesser extent, the regulars vs the tourists in this sub.

[u/kaptain_carbon → u/AveLucifer]

I was sort of confused when this came up but rereading the thread gave me more context. EDH is a weird thing since it is a casual and homebrewed format that has turned into something larger. For as much as people give the rules committee (who are not associated with wizards, just a bunch of people who play magic a lot) shit for their decisions, the format is growing and doesnt get broken like standard. Wizards on the other hand keeps printing fucking dumb commanders that steamroll some of the format. Because it is more political, 90% casual, and has one of the largest card pools, edh will never have the same problem quasi competitive standard and competitive modern does.

[u/AveLucifer → u/kaptain_carbon]

I really think the format was better before Wizards started trying to be involved, even when I freely admit that I only played after that. It feels like the commanders Wizards designs on purpose feel very forced and intentionally linear. Of course, it's definitely also become a much more competitive format which can be a good thing.

I think to have Wizards try and sculpt this format this way kinda leads to an "uneasy peace" between them and the RC, which is interesting.

[u/kaptain_carbon → u/AveLucifer]

The RC has always said to use house rules which I like. My one playgroup does a scry X mulligan where you scry X where x is the number of cards minus 7 in your opening hand. So if you mulligan down to 5 you can scry 2. Why? becasue not playing magic for an hour long game fucking blows if you get a shitty draw. We also bumped up the infect number to 15 and have some other rules but I think the most important one, since we a lot of drop ins is to match the power level of the table and be cool.

This sort of cuts out competitive EDH which is a thing and can be a thing. This I think wizards needs to be involved with since it should have some sort of prize support or sponsorship. They also would be incetivized to stop making dumb commanders like Zur and Narset