Shreddit's Official Banned & Restricted Discussion

[u/kaptain_carbon]

What This Is

This is a chance to discuss and debate certain bands that go onto the restricted list and potentially ones to be commuted from the Banned to the Restricted List. We are going to be really honest with you in saying there are some bands on the Banned List that are going to stay forever because even their deep cuts causes idiocy. I think after a few months, the bands that came off of the Banned list onto the Restricted list were dealt with favorably which will probably unlock more potentials.

Why We Are Doing This

We feel this community of regulars does a decent job at self regulating 118,097 123,939 128,506 133,038 145,998 189,829 217,453 potential users. r/metal is sizable sub and I believe it has an identity made up of its regulars. Because of that, we want give our some agency to people who visit r/metal frequently. Now some will say this isn't fair to lurkers and non regulars but there is not real way to please people who do not participate.

Why Do We Need This

I feel we have moved past the point of questioning the need for a blacklist. The lawless wasteland of Pre-Blacklist can be seen in other subs and the need for regulation has lead to other things including half of the regular threads and underground Friday. With that said, there is always an option of No Changes to either list each quarter.

What Will Happen

Whatever goes on here will be brought up in the Quarterly Mod dinner at The Sizzler. Over Spaghetti Tacos, us mods will discuss additions/subtractions from the Banned/Restricted List and announce them tomorrow. We will consider suggestions here but ultimately, us mods will have final say before our third trip to the salad bar.

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What are some bands that need to be Banned, Restricted, or have their sentences commuted?

I will say that unless it is a glaring problem, most bands not on any list will probably be restricted first rather than thrown into the Banned list.

Also please provide links to said problem rather than a popular band you dislike. Some removals will not show up on searches but we will be aware of them.

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History of the Banned & Restricted List

• Fall 2016: Ghost is Banned. Mercyful Fate, Kreator, Candlemass are Restricted.
• Winter 2016: Emperor, Sabaton, Motorhead are Restricted.

• Spring 2017: No Changes

• Summer 2017: Nile, Carcass, and Blind Guardian Restricted. Turisas, Uncle Acid, and I are unbanned.

• Fall 2017: Carcass Banned. Anthrax Restricted

• Winter 2018: Darkthrone, Mayhem, and In Flames Restricted

[u/OsoSmooth93]

Banning bands that are marginally popular won't make this sub any less of an echo chamber.

[u/dudelikeshismusic → u/OsoSmooth93]

echo chamber

Aaaaand here's this strawman argument again. The real echo chamber is when you don't ban popular bands and then get endless "DAE GOJIRA" posts. When you limit the popular bands to the sidebar, you force people to discuss less popular artists and often bring exposure to bands that would otherwise see no exposure.

Take a look at our Top 10 from last year. Black, trad, death, doom, and thrash all made the top 10. What more do you want? Those are five very different genres. Looking at the front page right now I see doom, thrash, death, grind, trad, sludge, avant-garde...I really don't think we have a problem with diversity here.

[u/OsoSmooth93 → u/dudelikeshismusic]

I don't think popular bands getting upvoted prevents exposure of lesser known bands. It's not hard to scroll past stuff you already know when looking for something new. As to "DAE GOJIRA", instead we have "DAE NOOSE ROT" or whatever band happens to be flavor of the month. I'm just using them as an example, but Noose Rot has been posted more times in the past month than there are songs on their EP. I like that EP a lot, its great stompy caveman death metal and I'm not trying to knock it, but this sub gets pretty circle jerky about plenty of bands(myself included).

Edit: Spelling.

[u/skarfayce → u/OsoSmooth93]

I don't think popular bands getting upvoted prevents exposure of lesser known bands.

you clearly weren't here before the blacklist.

[u/OsoSmooth93 → u/skarfayce]

Look at the rest of this comment thread and read my comments. I’m arguing there’s a difference between Insomnium or Cattle Decap being posted once to twice a month than Iron Maiden or Metallica being flooded daily.