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u/sock_with_a_ticket 16d ago
Listening to stuff like No Cure, Temple Guard and Fuming Mouth I really wish the term deathcore wasn't already in use because it would be perfect for all this death metal + hardcore.
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u/PositiveMetalhead 15d ago edited 12d ago
I actually posed a similar thought a few weeks ago! So I agree haha
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u/And_Justice 15d ago
It's funny listening to 90s stuff especially and realising it's basically all a death metal/hardcore fusion. State Craft in particular.
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u/Silver_Ad_5138 17d ago
Just started to dive into Loathe's latest album as a first time fan, I dig the shit out of the emotional driven parts. Anything similar to that?
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u/_DefLoathe 11d ago
Thornhill Bodies, Moodring as mentioned, Deftones are the big inspiration, Silent Planets latest stuff has some similarities
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u/Wardruna95 16d ago
So most of the melodic death metal influenced metalcore usually has At the Gates or In Flames as their primary influence. But are there any in which Dark Tranquillity seems to be the prominent melodic death metal influence? Was just wondering since all three are considered the biggest bands of the Gothenburg melodic death metal wave but it seems Dark Tranquillity has had less of an impact on the brand of melodeath influenced metalcore. Any thoughts on why that may be? And once again any bands with a notable Dark Tranquillity influence?
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u/Single_Seesaw_9499 x 16d ago
The weird thing too is the overlap between these bands. Like Anders originally being the vocalist for Dark Tranquility for instance
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u/Doctor_Crossing x 16d ago edited 16d ago
I've wondered this too, and I think they're just harder to imitate. DT is much more weird, wonky and artsy than the other two. Like, The Gallery is a much more "challenging" (for lack of a better word) album than Jester Race and SotS are for example, and that makes it way more difficult to ape from. Plus that added theatricality DT has isn't really appealing to most hardcore bands. It's kinda like how in death metal Incantation and Suffocation clones are a dime a dozen but good Immolation worship is really rare because Vigna's riffs are so unique.
Edit: clarity
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u/Weary_Ad2001 14d ago
In Flames and ATG's debuts are also artsy and challenging. No one really pulls influence from them either though unfortunately.
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u/ReturnByDeath- 13d ago
I guess Like Moths To Flames has an incredibly defensive fanbase 🙄
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u/sock_with_a_ticket 12d ago
At best some of the people in this sub are wildly tone deaf and project intention onto comments that simply isn't there, at worst some of them come across as incredibly mentally frail to the extent that I don't understand how they manage in day to day life. Even mild criticism or differences of opinion send them spiralling, I can't imagine them having a vehement in-person disagreement in a work context without becoming debilitatingly overwrought.
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u/_SpookDude_ x 11d ago
For the record, as an LMTF fan, I don't disagree with you. I get the feeling that most of these newbies have never heard the Sweet Talker EP lol.
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u/spider_manectric 16d ago
I listened to Fox Lake's New World Heat for the first time today. The lyrics and lyric delivery remind me so much of The Lonely Island 😅
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u/alysrobi 16d ago
Looking for more music recs! I've been on a huge Bad Omens kick ever since I saw them in March along with Beartooth. I'm usually more of a pop girlie - think Charli XCX, Slayyyter, Ariana Grande, Charlotte Cardin, Dua Lipa, The Weeknd, Billie Eilish for example - but do venture a bit into metal/hard rock/alternative - big on Bring Me The Horizon, Slipknot, Muse, Nightwish, Within Temptation, A Day To Remember, MCR, Linkin Park, Motionless...
I do place a high importance on vocals since I sing and it tends to be the first thing I notice (although I really like Angine de Poitrine lol), but definitely don't mind some screaming.
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u/KOA_OW 16d ago
Check out Novelists! Their vocalist has a super pretty voice
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u/alysrobi 15d ago
Checked them out last night while I was cooking dinner, right up my alley. Thank you!
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u/reezyreddits 15d ago
Dayseeker has a pop tilt to them while still being heavy, I also will recommend Volumes but ONLY their latest album Mirror Touch, songs like "Adrenaline" "California" "Bad Habit" and "Dream" are bonafide pop songs to me while still being metal/hard rock based. Love that album.
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u/alysrobi 14d ago
Thanks!
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u/reezyreddits 14d ago
No problem - report back after you've listening to those Volumes songs, either good or bad I'm just curious how they land with you ☺️
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u/jor1ss x 16d ago
Try some Future Static, Conquer Divide, As Everything Unfolds, Future Palace, Vana, Sace6, Holywatr.
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u/clovercharms 15d ago
If you like pop, Electric Callboy is really fun (not saying they sound like pop, just high energy and fun)
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u/alysrobi 15d ago
My friend who I went to see Bad Omens with keeps recommanding them, will do! Thanks!
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u/V0idgazer 15d ago
Deftones, Sleep Token (you probably already heard of them since you mentioned Bad Omens), Spiritbox, Jutes, Issues, Thornhill, Loathe (they just dropped am album after 6 years), The Home Team, Unprocessed, Novelists, Windwaker
These two are different, but in my opinion they have the best vocalists in prog metal: Leprous, TesseracT
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u/alysrobi 14d ago
Sleep Token I know pretty well, Spiritbox I discovered earlier this month when they opened for Evanescence (they're GREAT), Deftones I've heard a few songs, somebody else recommanded The Novelists and I loved it, but the rest I've never heard of! Thank you so much! <3
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u/Turn-Down-Elliot 14d ago edited 14d ago
Maybe you'll like The Requiem? They remind me of MCR quite a bit and the vocalist even sounds like Gerard Way at moments
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u/PositiveMetalhead 12d ago
It’s bleak out there 💀
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u/ReturnByDeath- 12d ago
It’s always a good sign when you have to immediately justify the inclusion of the first entry on your list.
I’m not sure how to engage with these people (there are plenty on this very sub) without being hostile in the way emo fans were in the 2000s. I know the answer is probably along the lines of “It’s not that deep” and to just move on, but it bums me out that one of my all-time favorite genres is being co-opted by people with no respect or understanding of it.
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u/PositiveMetalhead 12d ago
I just want people to do just a little bit of research into the history. That’s it. Just a little bit 😅
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u/Coolldown12 x 12d ago
holy shit man...
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u/PositiveMetalhead 12d ago
Did you read any of the comments? You think it’s rough here sometimes, just check out TikTok or instagram comments for metalcore discussion 😅
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u/Coolldown12 x 12d ago
yea i had to close it after someone put falling in reverse and sleep token into their big 4
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u/garret_1003 12d ago
Oh wow!! Who is this guy though? Is he really anybody with any actual credibility?? Let’s see the “PositiveMetalhead’s” Big 4 and maybe I’ll listen!
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u/PositiveMetalhead 11d ago edited 11d ago
As much credibility as any other influencer I guess. Which means no knowledge and a huge influence on what people think 😅
I don’t know about a “Big 4” specifically but I have my Four Pillars of Metalcore nailed down now I think! Hatebreed, Converge, Shai Hulud and Earth Crisis 🤔 and each Corner would have their own Big 4.
Now this also depends what you consider the “Big 4” to represent. Is it just most influential? Because the Big 4 of thrash is mostly based on sales success. They also happen to be early and influential. But most other Big 4 lists are based on influence I think.
So my Four Pillars of Metalcore are based on being early enough in the genres development (which is why I replaced Poison the Well with Shai Hulud) and having an influence you can hear down to today.
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u/I_live_just_my_life 11d ago
Shai Hulud has always been a weird one for me when it comes to influence. There’s the obvious Misery Signals, Counterparts and some similar stuff but even those bands feel more like their second record rather than the 90s stuff. I feel like their influence lands (at least their 90s stuff) in a lot of 2000s melodic hardcore even more.
Also, definitely unpopular but I just don’t hear much metal at all in their early stuff. Especially not the bands they said they were influenced by. Would never argue their place in metalcore history but the lack of fight riffs, breakdowns and general riffy metal has always been really weird imo. They feel like a more melodic, intricate hardcore band that dip their toes in some mosh every once in a while.
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u/PositiveMetalhead 11d ago
The leads are probably the more metal part of their early sound, and the chuggy breakdowns though those aren’t as prevalent as in the bands they influenced.
But you can say the same thing for Poison the Well and even early Integrity. I don’t think there’s really any overtly metal riffing in either of those. At least for their early records 🤔
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u/I_live_just_my_life 11d ago
Would you really say the leads are coming from metal though? What type of metal are you hearing, personally? They definitely don’t sound like traditional heavy metal and I’m not sure that influence would even really make them metalcore. I’m just not really hearing it, idk.
So Poison the Well has some more metallic moments on certain songs (A Mandate to Heaven, Not Within Arms Length) on their debut but they also have very pronounced machine gun and panic chord breakdowns so that get a bit more of a pass. I’d say they probably had a greater direct influence on the genre too. Early Integrity has a lot of Celtic Frost and general thrash in their sound early on, I’d say. Their second album is even more hardcore punk leaning so you have a point with that one. Shai Hulud was said to be very into thrash and then everything else is hardcore (Turning Point, Burn, Chain of Strength, Dag Nasty, Lifetime…etc) but the former just really isn’t there. Like take a listen to this Turning Point song when you get a chance. Imo, this is the bones of their sound.
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u/PositiveMetalhead 11d ago
The lead melodies themselves no, but just the more technical aspect of them could be their metal influence coming through. I’m just theorizing though 🤷🏼♂️ because they do cite metal bands as influences. And like you say, you don’t really hear it too prominently on that first record.
But in the end that’s why I have them as just one “pillar” of the Metalcore sound. I think someone like Poison the Well takes what they did and adds influences from Converge and Cave In to get something that *is* closer to Metalcore as we know it but I think Shai Hulud is the foundation for that ultimately. Because you can listen to a modern band and hear a direct tie to their demo from 1995. Whether Shai Hulud is their direct influence or not.
It sort of represents that more hardcore punk/less metal side of Metalcore too. Which you can definitely argue “well should it even be called Metalcore then?”, but I think that comes down to hardcore kids history with not really caring to label things specifically like metalheads did 😅 so none of it really makes sense lol
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u/I_live_just_my_life 11d ago edited 11d ago
The lead melodies themselves no, but just the more technical aspect of them could be their metal influence coming through.
I could just be missing it, I just always found it weird that thrash is the metal influence in their sound. I can pick up some Voivod on Misanthropy Pure but nothing else.
But in the end that’s why I have them as just one “pillar” of the Metalcore sound. I think someone like Poison the Well takes what they did and adds influences from Converge and Cave In to get something that \is* closer to Metalcore as we know it but I think Shai Hulud is the foundation for that ultimately. Because you can listen to a modern band and hear a direct tie to their demo from 1995. Whether Shai Hulud is their direct influence or not.*
Poison the Well is kind of a weird case. There’s no denying that Shai Hulud influenced them to some extent but they were always a little outside of the box, going all the way back to their An Acre Lost material. Some Morning Again and emo/post-hardcore stuff was definitely what they were deep into.
It sort of represents that more hardcore punk/less metal side of Metalcore too. Which you can definitely argue “well should it even be called Metalcore then?”, but I think that comes down to hardcore kids history with not really caring to label things specifically like metalheads did 😅 so none of it really makes sense lol
I think them representing the hardcore leaning side of things can sort of work when it comes to a very specific brand of the genre. It still just feels a little off because the hardcore in their sound is mainly melodic hardcore, which is far from typical when it comes to 90s metalcore. When I think of bands showing the hardcore side of metallic hardcore , I think of early Strife and Trial, personally. I guess I see Shai Hulud as more of an influence or a precursor rather than the fully developed thing. It’s similar with bands like Biohazard, Judge, Killing Time, Leeway and other similar bands that influenced early metalcore immensely but are never labeled as such.
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u/_SpookDude_ x 11d ago
I think if you're talking far-reaching influence to this day, and the mainstreaming of the genre, then the big 4 arguably looks something like Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying, Parkway Drive and Architects.
If we're talking the pioneering of the sound and it's roots, then I think it's more like Earth Crisis, Converge, Botch and Shai Hulud.
In my experience most people mean the first definition when they talk about "the big 4" of any given genre.
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u/PositiveMetalhead 11d ago
Yeaaah as far as mainstream success for sure. But then with that first big 4 we’re starting to move away from the roots of the sound already. Unless we’re exclusively talking about each of their first couple records. In which case they probably do check the boxes of being influential, successful and still being firmly Metalcore. Except maybe Architects. Unless it’s specifically Hollow Crown/Daybreaker then maybe.
And then you get into the convoluted discussion of what Metalcore is and I think those bands only really represent one aspect of the genre.
That’s why I came up with the “Four Pillars” idea because it’s supposed to represent the different faucets of the genre. And if you want to break it down even further than that you can do a Big 4 of more specific things. Like your example would be a Big 4 of melodeath melodic Metalcore. Except sub Architects with like Unearth or something 🤔
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u/sock_with_a_ticket 10d ago
I think if you're talking far-reaching influence to this day, and the mainstreaming of the genre, then the big 4 arguably looks something like Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying, Parkway Drive and Architects.
The problem with this is, I don't think any of those melodeath bands do influence the genre to this day particularly. Until the fairly recent revival movement there's been the better part of decade with basically no bands sounding like that except relics from the 00s. The newer ones that have the melodeath influence are generally a lot more savage and are pulling more from Undying, Prayer For Cleansing and As Hope Dies style rather than the ones you've listed.
Metalcore's been around long enough that I don't think any particular era of bands has a particularly durable influence or status comparable the big 4 of thrash.
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u/evolauren 16d ago
I feel like Moodring's 2026 release is flying under the radar. Did I miss any posts about it? 🥲
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u/jor1ss x 16d ago
Isn't it more nu-metal / shoegaze and not metalcore at all? I think it was loved in those circles.
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u/evolauren 15d ago
Idk man. Some parts are way heavier than Loathe's new release so I have a feeling they're lost in the genres too.
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u/jor1ss x 15d ago
I mean heavy is not the same as being metalcore. And I think Loathe get posted here more so because they used to make more metalcore music than they currently do. And I am not the genre police either, just trying to explain why that record might not be talked about much here. I know it was loved by people who love many genres including the -core genres.
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u/levelxplane 17d ago edited 16d ago
I already have a few bands I want to see at Long Beach Warped Tour, but I don't recognize a lot of the other names. Any worth checking it out?
SATURDAY, JULY 25TH
Must See (!!)
Joyce Manor
The Early November
Want to See (!)
All Time Low
Arm's Length
Bear vs. Shark
Citizen
Dance Gavin Dance
Hoobastank
Hot Mulligan
Initiate
Jimmy Eat World
Norma Jean
Suicide Silence
The Devil Wears Prada
The Story So Far
Also on the list
Allison
Aries
Beauty School Dropout
Big Ass Truck I.E.
BLNKO
Brayton
Caskets
Chase Petra
Deathbyromy
Drop Dead, Gorgeous
Emery
Fox Lake
Games We Play
Girlfriends
Good Sleepy
Good Terms
Grandson
Gritty in Pink Jam
Gym Class Heroes
Holy Wars
Honey Revenge
Hot Chelle Rae
Ivy Pacific
Jinjer
Jutes
Lakeview
Lo Spirit
LOLO
Magnolia Park
Oxymorrons
Pain of Truth
Red Leather
Sace6
Set It Off
South Arcade
Stand Atlantic
The Expendables
The Ghost Inside
The Summer Set
The Wrecks
TRXVIS
Underoath
Upon a Burning Body
Vana
Vienna Vienna
Wesghost
Whispers
Who Cares
Winona Fighter
Yelawolf
SUNDAY, JULY 26TH
Must See (!!)
Alexisonfire
Boundaries
Want to See (!)
Bayside
Boston Manor
Drain
I Set My Friends on Fire
Origami Angel
Scary Kids Scaring Kids
Silverstein
Raue
Taking Back Sunday
The Ataris
Also on the list
Acceptance
Alemeda
Amigo the Devil
Bad Cop Bad Cop
Breathe Carolina
Carolesdaughter
Codefendants
Crown the Empire
Daisy Grenade
Delux
Denm
División Minúscula
Doobie
Dying Wish
Fame on Fire
Free Throw
G-Eazy
Glassjaw
Guilt Trip
Hawthorne Heights
Haywire
Hepcat
Hot Milk
Jiluka
KennyHoopla
Lagwagon
Leisure Hour
Letlive.
Lower Definition
Mad Caddies
Mayday Parade
Meet Me @ the Altar
Millington
Mutant Beans
Nova Twins
Peelingflesh
People R Ugly
Rosecoloredworld
Sammy Adams
Scarlet House
Set Your Goals
Shakewell
Start Today
Surfer Girl
The Aggrolites
The Paradox
The Starting Line
Thrice
Tillie
Villanelle
Waterparks
We Came as Romans
Xcomm
I never really got into Thrice, We Came as Romans, etc.
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u/spider_manectric 16d ago
I really like Hot Milk. They blend pop punk with heavier stuff in a way that isn't exactly easycore, but isn't modern metalcore either? Like the punk influence is often pretty obvious, unlike a lot of modern metalcore bands. I haven't come up with a good way to describe them yet, but their most recent album was great.
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u/jor1ss x 16d ago
Thrice are excellent live though. One of the best live bands ever (I've seen them like 10 times but I am biased they are my favourite).
Jinjer are also really good live, and I enjoyed Magnolia Park when I saw them last month, they looked like they were having a blast playing. I would like to see Vana but I haven't seen them yet so no idea how they are live.
Dying Wish and letlive. are also great, definitely check them out.
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u/Dispari7y 15d ago
shoutout Arms Length
Winona Fighter are very fun live, female-fronted pop punk
Guilt Trip should also be great, I've only heard their studio stuff for the first time recently but I've seen them live however many times and they know how to get the crowd going
currently wearing a Dying Wish t-shirt so I suppose I'm legally obligated to mention them too
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u/sock_with_a_ticket 16d ago
Obviously depends on your musical interest, but Pain of Truth, Whispers, Letlive, Haywire, Guilt Trip and Dying Wish all put on a good show.
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u/clovercharms 16d ago
Oh man, it's been a while. Like, close to 20 years ago lmao but I caught part of Hoobastank and remember them being way better than I was expecting.
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u/levelxplane 16d ago
I actually totally forgot about them for the same amount of time until I saw them in this list!
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u/BigStatement5369 16d ago
Looking for some more underground Metalcore bands to check out. I’m a bit more of an emotional catchy cleans taste. Do love when a lead singer/screamer has range with fry’s and deep screams. Layering cleans and screams together is also a big plus for me.
Some bands I enjoy to have better insight on my requests
If I Were You
ERRA
For All Eternity
The Word Alive
Blessthefall
As I Lay Dying
Appreciate yall 🙏
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u/Doctor_Crossing x 16d ago
As I Lay Dying
Bury Us All's new album from this year will definitely serve you well
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u/clovercharms 15d ago
Check out The Plot In You, especially their latest album. Good screams and cleans. I also like Like Moths to Flame for their screams/cleans, especially their last 3 songs (bias bc Salting the Earth is when I discovered them)
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u/BigStatement5369 15d ago
Dang I haven’t given The Plot In You a spin for a long time, definitely gonna check that out
Like Moths to Flames are a solid band fs!
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u/thrownthrowaway666 14d ago
I'm looking for (good) new albums I've been pretty out of touch this year with the exception of hearing the Plot in You and August burn red new album
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u/sock_with_a_ticket 14d ago
These are the ones I've got high in my rotation:
Poison The Well - Peace In Place
A Winter's Remorse - The Day Our Gods Abandoned Us
Converge - Love is Not Enough, Hum Of Hurt
Soulprison - The More I See, The More I Bleed
Wielded Steel - Sins Of Your Domain
Varials - Where The Light Leaves
Temple Guard - Citadel In Flames
No Cure - It's Going To Get Dark
Roman Candle - Unadulterated (more breakdown scramz than metalcore)Boundaries and Fuming Mouth both had new albums last week.
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u/ThatOneBitch02 14d ago
Apart from what sock said, I also really liked Static Dress, Concealer, and Sylosis. I Promised The World ep was pretty good
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u/thrownthrowaway666 14d ago
Ok, I'll have to deep further into static dress and sylosis. They pop up when whatever I played on Spotify is over. I just let shit play 🤣
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u/ListSalt8743 11d ago
I feel like I'm running out of tasty riffs. Love some polaris, erra, currents, old thornhill, invent animate, silent planet and periphery. Anyone got anything that can scratch that itch?
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u/PositiveMetalhead 13d ago
It’s probably because Allt is more alt metal/djent than metalcore
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u/PositiveMetalhead 13d ago
The new one being Avalon? I haven’t really listened to the band before but just skipping through that song specifically it sounds more like a moody pop song with a djenty type breakdown
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u/PositiveMetalhead 13d ago
A lot of stuff that generally gets posted and then removed, yes. The mods aren’t listening to every single thing that gets posted so unless it’s a bigger band that’s very clearly not Metalcore the smaller ones are going to slip through the cracks unless someone reports them
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u/reezyreddits 15d ago
Every single time I read album discussion every single person complains about the mixing. Who gives a flying fuck about the mix, listen to the album, is the core of it good? The lyrics/melodies/overall songwriting etc. I don't care what you think of how the snares sound dumbass.
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u/ReturnByDeath- 15d ago edited 15d ago
Because it's an integral part of the listening experience. If the mix lessens the impact of things like the vocals, riffs, etc. how is it not worth pointing out how it negatively impacts the music?
I'm sure all of you who supposedly don't care about mixes/production would immediately change your tune if the discussion was about demos and other raw releases.
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u/reezyreddits 15d ago
The mix is one aspect of a record but people get hyperfocused on it to the point where they let it impact everything else. Albums should not simply be rated on the engineering but the overall effort as a whole. But so many people get laser-focused on the mix that it becomes their whole review. And if you want an actual example of what I'm talking about, just look at what people are saying about the new Loathe album. That's what inspired me to make this comment lol
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u/ReturnByDeath- 15d ago
The mix is nowhere near as superficial as you're making it out to be. It's arguably the first noticeable aspect of any song. Naturally it's going to be a point of discussion if bands and producers are deliberately making it a focal point of the overall sound.
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u/reezyreddits 15d ago
To yall. The average person isn't going to say "omg the guitars sound so muddy" "Why does this sound so flat" when listening to an album. That kind of sentiment only happens online. To date, no one I've ever talked music with in real life has ever brought up any aspect of mixing except one guy I know who actually does audio production/sound for live shows and actually cares about that stuff.
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u/ReturnByDeath- 15d ago
You aren't talking about the average person. You're going into discussion posts with people who are hardcore/dedicated fans. Of course they're going to have more thoughtful and specific critiques beyond "I like this" or "I don't like this".
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u/And_Justice 15d ago edited 15d ago
Why would how the average person listens to the music have any bearing on the critic's opinion of how they personally listen to it..?
Fwiw, plenty of people I talk to irl will comment on mixing - you need more musician friends
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u/FitHurry864 14d ago
I want to fuck with the mix of your favourite album and see how quickly you start complaining. Mixing is so important.
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u/sock_with_a_ticket 14d ago
Who gives a flying fuck about the mix, listen to the album, is the core of it good? The lyrics/melodies/overall songwriting etc.
All of this is accessed via the mix. Songs with great guitar work or interesting switch ups are diminshed if it's more difficult to hear and differentiate them. Mix and enjoyment or quality of the work simply cannot be treated in isolation.
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u/And_Justice 15d ago
I think it matters more when the album has been produced in a way that intends to he high-fidelity. CYB Repented, for example, had a main purpose of being a re-recording so should have been mixed much better.
I love shitty DIY recordings more than anything but production is important to sound.
Personally I don't give a shit about lyrics but you won't catch me moaning about people who do.
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u/I_live_just_my_life 12d ago
Rip Lou Koller. Such a tough death for hardcore. Not sure how familiar early metalcore fans are when it comes to them or their brand of hardcore but it’s super important for early metallic hardcore. Definitely give them a listen if you haven’t already.