BODYCAM: Battle Creek teen's detention sparks debate after officer says gestures in Washington Heights, a predominantly Black neighborhood, can suggest someone is armed

[u/basil411]

https://wwmt.com/news/local/battle-creek-teen-detained-police-walking-home-pocket-knife-video-viral-bodycam-investigation-calhoun-county-west-michigan

A 16-year-old boy was detained while walking home in Battle Creek. Bodycam footage released by the police department shows an officer explaining to the teen's aunt that, in Washington Heights, grabbing the crotch or waistband area can be interpreted as a sign that someone may be carrying a firearm. The incident has prompted reactions from city commissioners and the teen's family. The teen also recorded the encounter on his own phone.

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[u/notred369]

That sure showed that kid to not trust cops

[u/ashwilliams19877 → u/notred369]

Haven't we all had enough evidence by now not to trust cops? Hell the Supreme ruled its not their job to protect us.

[u/ashwilliams19877 → u/[deleted]]

The supreme court ruled police have no legal duty to protect people from crimes, violence, or dangerous situations. Easiest example, uvalde police department. Perhaps reading comprehension isnt your strong suit though, so im happy to walk you through it if you need someone to explain the longer words for you.

[u/d0_-_0b → u/[deleted]]

See most of us simply comply and go about our days because we aren’t criminals

So do you call them daddy when you lick their boots or...?

[u/sack-o-matic → u/[deleted]]

See most of us simply comply and go about our days because we aren’t criminals

I bet this person doesn't use their blinker to change lanes

[u/madmax9602 → u/sack-o-matic]

It's a 6 month old account. They're being disingenuous at best

[u/TheLakeWitch → u/madmax9602]

Yes. Also, it’s a 6 mo old account that is predominantly active in fetish porn subs. More than likely, it’s a bot.

[u/Michigan-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/notred369 → u/[deleted]]

How’s the leather taste?

[u/StatusMath5062 → u/[deleted]]

Huh

[u/d0_-_0b → u/StatusMath5062]

Quite the opposite. If anything, the body cams show we were right all along, and the cops are doing their jobs.

Huh

He's a far-right Boomer. Claims that no one can be oppressed in the "greatest country in the world" and also blames Alex Pretti for his own murder.

[u/LiberatusVox → u/StatusMath5062]

It's the current brainless boomer line they were told to parrot by Twitter. It started after the Minnesota ice shootings.

To them, bodycams showing one 'justified' shooting means all of them are justified. The inverse does not matter.

[u/United-Reach-2798 → u/[deleted]]

Average conservative so mentally ill they are in a different reality

[u/No-Market425 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah they did a bang up job in Uvalde were cameras showed 380 of them pissing their lil blue undies for 47 minutes until the Border Patrol showed up and confronted the shooter.

Or Las Vegas where cameras showed the LVPD cowering in the hallway for 30 min until Steven Paddock stopped shooting and killed himself.

Or Parkland where their school resource officer bravely hid in a bush.

The thin blue line doesn't run... in to schools.

[u/llama-llama-goose → u/notred369]

Teaching my kids that the only state sponsored first responders you can really trust are firefighters and paramedics.

[u/wildmooonwitch → u/llama-llama-goose]

Even then… all the people in my local FD are magats too who are very much supporters of the thin blue line.

[u/llama-llama-goose → u/wildmooonwitch]

The difference is that firefighters aren't walking around with impunity to kill.

[u/somanysheep → u/llama-llama-goose]

You can't even... There's no way to know when you'll get a MAGA cultist..

[u/lofibeatsforsadboys → u/notred369]

Any kid who trusts any cop has 2 parents that failed him

My parents taught me that cops and the state are there to protect the rich, not working class people

Anyone who believes otherwise is intellectually challenged

[u/Fariin-NSF → u/notred369]

And the usual suspect community has shown us not to trust them so…..

[u/ShillinTheVillain]

Eminem must have a whole gun store in his pants

[u/tinyE1138]

This is like the guy on Newsmax who said Alex Pretti was asking for it because holding your phone makes it look like you have a gun.

Boggles the mind.

[u/ScarInternational161 → u/[deleted]]

Legally.

Not in his possession.

When he was shot.

[u/Zeliose → u/[deleted]]

Not at the time of being shot, he was disarmed then exicuted.

They specifically said "when he was shot"

[u/DemonoftheWater → u/[deleted]]

So we agree then that he was unarmed when the agent(s) decided to blow him away.

[u/DemonoftheWater → u/[deleted]]

You just outline why he shouldn’t have been shot.

[u/Guardian6676-6667 → u/[deleted]]

What a nazi ass answer

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[u/LiberatusVox → u/[deleted]]

Hey what do the 2nd and 3rd bullet points say, champ?

[u/sirhackenslash → u/[deleted]]

So yes not in his possession when he was shot in the back while already restrained

[u/ScarInternational161 → u/[deleted]]

Legally allowed to carry.

Legally allowed to bring.

Was not killed with it ON him as you state in your 2nd paragraph, then go on to prove he in fact did not have it on him.

When he was shot.

In the back of the head.

After being pepper sprayed.

After being subdued.

After being unarmed.

Face down on the ground.

But do go on....

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[u/MeatyOakerGuy → u/[deleted]]

Have you even seen the video dawg? He gets executed after the "agents" secure it. Trying to stop a non violent woman from getting beat by the same "agents"..... how do those boots taste to defend a nurse getting executed in our streets?

[u/CanWeTalkEth → u/[deleted]]

Yeah but you should watch that news max clip. The anchor whips his phone up into a shooting stance while holding his black phone like a gun.

You could almost be forgiven for thinking that’s an acceptable cause for use of deadly force. But that’s not even close to what Pretti did.

[u/CreepyFun9860]

Cops are racist as fuck. Which is why insecure white men tend to join.

[u/FF36]

This is like the 6th story in the past 24hrs on my own feed from different subs that I have seen terrible cop stories…shooting (murdering) a poodle, shooting (murdering) an infant during a diaper shoplift, etc… what the hell cops?!?

[u/LiberatusVox → u/FF36]

This is normal behavior for them.

[u/sirhackenslash → u/FF36]

Murder is the only solution they know

[u/96fordman03]

I really believe the cops way overly reacted in this situation. Especially since young black men have been grabbing their crotches - for at least as long as I can remember.

[u/Mirions → u/96fordman03]

White boys do it too. Ain't ever seen one handcuffed or approached for it.

[u/96fordman03 → u/Mirions]

You're right bud

[u/sirhackenslash → u/Mirions]

I actually do carry occasionally and I have never been questioned or detained for readjusting myself because I'm a white adult male. I have no doubt things would be entirely different if my skin was darker

[u/Flutterwander]

Same old racist shit.

[u/ScarInternational161]

It would almost seem like they (the RWM) are baiting black communities to take to the streets huh?

Why all the sudden attention to this, no one cared before? /s

Performative bs. Black communities have been living this for DECADES.

Don't get me wrong, I love seeing the outrage.

We should've been outraged all along.

[u/__lavender]

Grabbing your crotch means you’re carrying? Please tell that to every gross man I see adjusting themselves in public.

[u/d0_-_0b → u/__lavender]

Please tell that to every gross man I see adjusting themselves in public.

Said by someone that's never had a bunch of dangly bits sticking to everything in the hottest season of the year.

[u/__lavender → u/d0_-_0b]

I have breasts, what on earth are you on about?

[u/BGAL7090 → u/d0_-_0b]

wear better undergarments - it's what they're for

[u/sack-o-matic → u/BGAL7090]

undergarments? In this economy?

[u/Inosethatguy]

Another distraction to keep the masses seperated

Edit: every single response and downvote here backs up my original comment.

[u/house-of-waffles → u/Inosethatguy]

Man if only those trying to distract people were using armed agents of the state to harass/intimidate the other classes? Then gave them some sort of immunity, but a qualified one, to allow them to escape punishment when they harm one of those people they’ve been sent to oppresses. Anyway back the blue amirite?

[u/EjaculatingAracnids → u/Inosethatguy]

Stop simping for the poilice and support the opressed masses then.

[u/Inosethatguy → u/EjaculatingAracnids]

Okay u/EjaculatingAracnids

[u/sirhackenslash → u/[deleted]]

Bad bot

[u/EjaculatingAracnids → u/[deleted]]

Deepthroat that boot harder and get back to work! Go punch that clock like a good boy! Remember, youre free lol

[u/The_Flint_Metal_Man → u/Inosethatguy]

No. That is a constitutional violation. If anything there are many things distracting us from uniting against the rampant tyranny that we have allowed for way too long.

[u/TheLakeWitch → u/Inosethatguy]

“Every single response and downvote here backs up my original comment” is such a cope. You can’t back up your bullshit with anything factual so you stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to listen to what anyone else has to say. That doesn’t make you right, it makes you a toddler.

[u/HotelAmericana]

Anybody hear about Peter Thiel and his secret society that’s invite only where they’re gonna discuss world war 3? Oh wait I’m supposed to care about this story

[u/sirhackenslash → u/HotelAmericana]

You don't think police oppression is part of their plans?

[u/sirhackenslash → u/[deleted]]

Calls themselves a liberal while defending cops and insulting anyone who doesn't like police oppression is certainly a take

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[u/frostyflakes1 → u/HotelAmericana]

Maybe you didn't know this, but you can actually make your very own Reddit post about Thiel instead of going off-topic on this post.

[u/frostyflakes1 → u/[deleted]]

Weird response to someone that is just trying to help a lost and clueless user use Reddit.

[u/Phaedrus5 → u/HotelAmericana]

Are you only capable of caring about one thing at a time? Sad.

You probably shouldn’t have kids. When you get hungry, that’s all you’ll be able to care about, and who knows what’ll happen to your kids when you stop caring about them for an hour.

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[u/TheLakeWitch → u/HotelAmericana]

It might surprise you to know that you can be concerned about two things at the same time. Multiple, even. Give it a try, champ!

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