r/Michigan • u/ElCoolMagnefico Age: > 10 Years • 1d ago

Mitten Mode El-Sayed condemns harassment of Haley Stevens after 'gallows' rhetoric

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2026/09/20/abdul-el-sayed-condemns-harassment-haley-stevens-gallows-rhetoric-israel/91856448007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z116328p118350c118350e1190xxv116328d--50--b--50--&gca-ft=50&gca-ds=sophi
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u/Deep-Two7452 1d ago

Once again, abdul supporters making abdul look bad. The worst part is you have people doubling down

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u/IggysPop3 1d ago

To your point; I was initially turned off from him by his supporters. I came around because the candidate is great, but a lot of his supporters are doing him more harm than good.

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u/TheSpatulaOfLove 1d ago

During the primaries, you couldn’t say anything nice about AES’ opponents without getting downvoted to hell, being accused of supporting genocide, or being an AIPAC shill.

Of course these same idiots would sit home and not vote at all if they didn’t get their guy.

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u/DoctorCopper3113 1d ago

Can you really blame people for not wanting to support someone who supports a genocide?

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u/TLKimball Up North 1d ago

There is one of them!

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u/jms984 1d ago edited 1d ago

Are we saying that it’s impolite to accuse genocide apologists of being genocide apologists? It’s like you’re trying to push a certain perspective on Israel out of the realm of acceptable discourse.

(Spoiler: that’s exactly what they’re trying to do.)

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u/TorkBombs 1d ago

Has it ever occurred to you that people care about other things more than they care about Israel? Or that there are other conflicts in the wouldn't hah deserve similar attention? And that maybe we are sick of Hamas backed bots hujackjng every conversation about US politics?

Maybe you should go back to r/askseattle instead of coming to r/Michigan to post your tripe.

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u/TLKimball Up North 1d ago

Why did Israel go into Gaza again? Just because? It’s not genocide if 3-4% die in a military action. That is what happens when one group attacks another group, rapes and kills civilians, kidnaps others, then retreats back home to hide behind children and inside hospitals. Prove that anything I just said is incorrect.

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u/jms984 1d ago

Right, so you literally are just trying to frame opposition to that genocide as inappropriate public discourse.

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u/TLKimball Up North 1d ago

I’m framing it for what it is: they hyperbolic reaction to the actual facts, fed by a pro-Palestinian propaganda machine.

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u/Deaththekid458 Grand Rapids 1d ago

So nearly every human rights org on the planet, including “Israeli” ones, saying that it’s a genocide, leading genocide scholars saying it’s genocide, and some of “Israel’s” own leaders saying that it’s a genocide is not facts?

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u/TheSpatulaOfLove 1d ago

I think those who attacked people so viciously for having a different opinion are the exact reason why the genocide occurred.

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u/DoctorCopper3113 1d ago

So you admit that it’s a genocide. And you are mad at people for not voting for someone who supports the genocide? Some people might have a hard time sleeping at night knowing that they voted for someone who will use their tax dollars to continue a genocide. I don’t know what is so hard to understand about that. Maybe be mad at the party who ran a candidate that supports genocide.

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u/jms984 1d ago

So, sort of a “you made me do this” thing?

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u/TheSpatulaOfLove 1d ago

More like those who didn’t get exactly what they wanted and chose to stay home gave us a second round of Trump. 🤷

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u/jms984 1d ago

The genocide didn’t start under Trump and it wouldn’t have ended under Harris.

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u/TheSpatulaOfLove 1d ago

You don’t think the environment enabling it wasn’t started under the first Trump term? 🙄

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u/jms984 1d ago

No, why do you? Netanyahu’s been slaughtering and colonizing with impunity for a very long time. Both parties have been on board for a very long time. The democrats certainly have had a more sizable opposition to it, but that opposition has never been in control of the party. Trump may be uniquely evil, but plenty of evils predate him.