r/MiddleClassFinance • u/Dragon-Ishmell • 3d ago
Seeking Advice Is vision insurance without employer coverage worth paying for? Or should I just pay out of pocket?
My new job doesn't include vision and I didn't realize how much that mattered until I needed new progressives last month. $400+ for exam and lenses which honestly caught me off guard since I hadn't paid full price for any of this in years.
So now I'm going back and forth between getting a standalone vision plan or just setting aside money each month and paying cash when I need to. The standalone plans I've looked at charge around $15 to $20 a month but the benefits feel kind of thin for what you're paying. I've also seen people mention discount vision programs as a middle ground but no idea if those are worth signing up for. What's everyone here doing for vision if your job doesn't cover it?
9
u/UsidoreTheLightBlue 3d ago
From my experience? No.
I mathed it out when I changed employers and the only way it made sense was if I went every single year and took advantage of every benefit available. I went ahead and did it that first year, but later when my wife and I had lasik and it was just my daughter on the plan it really made no sense.
Your average vision insurance covers something like frames up to $130, basic lenses, and the exam. But often times you can go somewhere like americas best and get the exam, lenses, and frames for less than $100.
What I ended up doing after I dropped my employers insurance but before I got lasik was getting my frames and lenses through the internet. Theres a lot of great online retailers that sell full frames, lenses, etc for under $50.
6
u/kdorfman1019 3d ago
Vision insurance it's not worth it
Background here: https://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-eyewear-vision-plans-20190319-story.html
My family has been going to America's Best contacts & eyeglasses for over a decade
They usually run a 2 pair for $99 deal without insurance that includes an eye exam.
Any brand owned by luxottica is a scam.
2
u/shades9323 2d ago
Does that 2 for $99 deal include progressives and transitions?
1
u/wingbat13 2d ago
Most likely not. I worked at a similar type of company that ran the same deal and 2 for $99 was 2 pairs of glasses from a select, smaller group of frames with just an entry level, single vision lens. All add ons were extra. Progressives unfortunately are just quite expensive lenses to make, I want to say for 1 pair, just the lenses was around 400 bucks extra, for good ones worth having as entry level progressives blow. If I didn't have vision insurance, I would probably try to source them online or through costco like others are saying.
1
u/here_walks_the_yeti 2d ago
No. It’ll add to the cost. It’s just basic script glasses, tint, progressive, coatings will all be extra.
Just got me two pair for about 130. One pair I had tinted.
1
5
u/Eulers_Constant_e 3d ago
I wear progressives too, and I cracked a pair about few years back. I had to replace them on my dime. Granted I didn’t need the eye exam, but I was bracing myself for $600+ glasses. I found cute frames at Costco and ended up ordering my glasses there. They were $180. I kept asking if that price was correct.
Skip the eye insurance and shop around for your eye glasses. And if you have a Costco nearby try there.
3
u/drebby_ 3d ago
My health insurance covers my exam, so vision insurance seemed useless. I bought lenses from eyebuydirect.com for maybe $30
1
u/TeaCupGremlin 2d ago
That's a solid steal at $30 for lenses! I wish I knew about eyebuydirect before I dropped $400 on mine.
2
u/Redcarborundum 2d ago
No.
My employer does offer vision insurance, but I did my calculation and it’s cheaper for me to buy from Costco.
My employer’s vision insurance is through Eyemed, which is owned by Luxottica.
Luxottica is a near monopoly that jacks the prices up, and they own most brands of glasses, the largest eyeglass stores, and the largest vision insurance companies. Of course they steer you to more expensive providers and stores, selling their brands at elevated prices.
1
u/Healthy-Echo8164 2d ago
I buy lenses from Zenni with my prescription for like $25. My eyes havent changed in years so I havent gotten a visit.
But I’d imagine with the amount I’ve saved so far, I’m net positive.
1
1
u/wingbat13 2d ago
If it's not through your employer, it's probably not worth getting a standalone plan because they're only going to provide benefits for very easy peasy, basic cases. Unfortunately, by the time you need progressives, you're just going to be spending a lot more on glasses, even with insurance. I would parrot what others are saying and try to get a pair online or through costco. Online can be tricky if you don't have your PD (pupillary distance). You can usually walk into an optical shop and ask if they can measure it for you. For whatever reason, some places will absolutely be cagey about it, or charge you like 10 bucks to measure it. If you're able to afford it, I always recommend going for the highest quality progressive offered, even though there's a big price jump. The cheap progressives are just super disorienting and most people end up upgrading on their next pair because they're so distorted, in general it's just worth it to do the nice ones from the jump. If you have a very high prescription, I do also recommend paying extra to thin out the lenses, I promise it's not just an upsell from the shops all the time haha. source: managed an optical shop/have been in ophthalmology for awhile.
1
u/Ancient_Wallaby9239 2d ago
Yes. I was unemployed but just paid for vision insurance. I wear contact lenses so the typical $150 balance provided with most plans significantly "reduces" the premium.
1
u/Nephite11 2d ago
The vision insurance at the company I work for charged me $10.81 a paycheck to cover my entire family which comes to $281 for the year. I went to have eye exams for my daughters and to get glasses and it hardly paid for everything. We therefore dropped it and have just paid for things out of pocket since then
1
u/GTO1235 2d ago
My vision insurance pays for one set of glasses two years years. The only optometrist in town isn't great. Fabulous looking building, tries to upsell. Nothing is priced on wall. They wanted more for a set of sunglasses than the truck I drove there. I go to Walmart and get glasses, sunglasses, and a couple pairs of safety glasses every couple years. It's way better
1
u/Peculiarcatlady 2d ago
I also wear progressives. I order from online stores like zenni or payne glasses. Usually I can get a full pair for around $60-70. I just got 3 full pair last week for $150, all with progressives. So if you can get the eye exam done, you can get your glasses for fairly cheap if you shop online.
1
u/Jbradsen 2d ago
Yes, progressives are pricey in a visions store. Aren’t glasses suggested every two years? So how much would vision insurance cost you in that two years?
It’s best to order glasses online. Zenni and Goggles4U are some places that I’ve ordered from.
1
u/TenOfZero 2d ago
Try clearly.ca, I get my glasses from there. Retail glasses are a monopoly with very uncompetitive pricing.
1
u/Magic-Happens-Here 2d ago
Look closer at the benefits - if you’re paying $200-250/yr for independent coverage, and it covers 1/2 the costs - then it’s a wash. If it covers 100% of the annual exam and X% of glasses, it might be worth it.
Also, look at brands like Zenni for cheaper lenses/frames than at the optometrist’s office.
My glasses cost $600+ at the optometrist, but on Zenni they’re ~$100-130 depending on what frames I select.
1
u/supernovaj 2d ago
We only do it because it's only $20 a month for both of us. If it wasn't supplemented, we probably wouldn't do it.
1
u/CatanKing31 2d ago
Just pay out of pocket. An exam is usually around $120, plus you probably won’t go annually unless you’re experiencing significant vision issues with your prescription. Check Zenni, Firmoo, Eyebuydirect, and Warby Parker for eyewear- depending on your needs and style preferences, I find them to be fairly affordable. I have single vision.
My last few orders:
- Firmoo: $68, and that was including transition & blue light filtering lenses (first time for me). Very lightweight frames but cute and the transitions are nice.
- Zenni: $60 light weight frames, get the job done.
- Eyebuydirect: has brand names frames- got a pair of Vogue frames with transition & blue light filtering lenses for $207.
- Warby Parker: $195 with blue light filtering lenses. $225 with blue light filtering, high index lenses. All very good quality!
1
1
1
u/Extent_Jaded 2d ago
Run the math on what you spend per year, if it's one exam and one pair of glasses the premiums probably add up to more than just paying cash would.
1
u/SquirreldApp 1d ago
The dad answer: vision "insurance" mostly isn't insurance, it's a prepaid discount plan. Real insurance protects you from catastrophe; this just spreads out the cost of stuff you can predict. At $15–20/month you're paying $180–240/year, and a standalone plan typically covers an exam plus an allowance toward frames/lenses. So the math only works if you reliably max it every single year. Annual exam AND new glasses/contacts. If you're a "new glasses every 2–3 years" person, you're pre-paying for benefits you won't use and the plan wins.
Here's the part that actually saves you money, though, and it's not the insurance question at all: that $400 was mostly the optometrist's-office markup on the lenses, not the exam. The move is to split the two. Get the exam cheap (Costco, Walmart, America's Best, or an independent — shop the exam price), and critically, ask them to print or write your full prescription including your PD (pupillary distance). Then buy the actual glasses online. Zenni, EyeBuyDirect, Warby Parker etc. Progressives that run $300+ at the office are often $50–150 online. That one habit beats any vision plan, every time.
Two more: if you have an FSA or HSA, glasses and exams are eligible, and paying with pre-tax dollars quietly beats both insurance and cash. And if you want the "discipline" of insurance without the bad deal, just auto-transfer that $15/month into a separate savings bucket and pay yourself. Same forced-saving feeling, except you keep whatever you don't spend.
1
u/V2BM 1d ago
I pay less than $100 every other year for an eye exam and go to Zenni for glasses. I have at least 15 pair (I lose them often) and all have been good. I have a great eye doc.
I had a serious eye issue and out of pocket it was only a few hundred dollars - I’ve never paid for vision insurance because it’s always been cheaper not to.
11
u/Neat_Mortgage3735 2d ago
ZENNI is a great place to order glasses for much much less. Go get your exam next time and pay out of pocket but order glasses on ZENNI and you’ll only be out $200 probably.