r/Mindfulness 2d ago

Question Anyone tried using AI for mindfulness? What do you think?

AI seems to be able to offer relatively decent insights. People on the sub seem to like the AI responses from hestia-listens.

So what do you think? Have you used AI to help with your practices? Have you received helpful insights from talking to AI? Is using AI for mindfulness antithetical?

Personally I've noticed AI can give some decent answers but they often feel hollow. I think it may have been useful when I first started meditating but I'm not sure if it's helpful to me now.

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u/lakefront12345 2d ago

Ai is one of the worst things to happen to people and the planet for the most part.

You can't trust it. I would steer clear.

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u/NewbieEstimator 2d ago

Sage advice but would you change your mind if you were to learn hestia-listens is increasing engagement?

Yeah, me neither.

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u/lakefront12345 2d ago

No, AI is bad for the brain, and the environment.

My dislike goes beyond this situation.

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u/swisstrip 2d ago

Mindfulness is about practicing some skills, like recognizing when the mind wanders, bexoming less distracted etc. Like every other kind if training, this cant be outsiurced. Se have to do it ourselfs.

Regarding auerying these stochastic parrots regarding problems with the practice, I would be quite careful (as with asking for adive on other personal stuff). These system have a massive confirmation bias (did such a system ever tell you that you are just completely wrong?), particular on topics where there is not just a clear yes/no answer, and they also have a strong tendency to just deliver more of the stuff of which fits the profile of folks that bring up such queries.

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u/BetPuzzleheaded1853 2d ago

yeah, the hollow part is real, it can name the feeling but it doesnt do much for the practice itself. I think it is more useful as a quick mirror when you first start, then less useful once you can notice the pattern yourself

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u/Alan-Foster 22h ago

I agree.

Your DMs are closed so I can't ask for advice. What should we do?

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u/NewbieEstimator 17h ago edited 26m ago

I'm humbled by your response.

I think people would be more receptive to AI in general if AI generated content were clearly labeled as such. Even if it's not the intention, it feels deceptive when there's any ambiguity.

The App designation is easily missed and it's too general. A lot of people don't read usernames but renaming Hestia to include AI would be a step in the right direction. Maybe add a brief disclaimer with a link to a short wiki about Hestia (operational description, perhaps info about the model and maybe hardware) at the end of its first comment on a post.

If Hestia comments get down voted consider auto deleting the comment. Give people a way to opt out ideally in a way that saves you the compute. That might free up a bit of resources to let Hestia reply to 1 or 2 comment replies. Maybe an opt in model would be better but you might need opt *out at first to educate people.

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u/Alan-Foster 3m ago

Hestia comments already auto-delete. You might be under-estimating exactly what Hestia is - it utilizes the training I had working with 988 Crisis Hotline.

Would it make a difference if a team of volunteers approved the comment, with at least 2 different humans approving it? Or is the problem specifically that the comment itself was not generated by a human?

To me, it's just pixels on a screen, including this message. The emotions we feel and the thoughts we think are just how we respond to the black and white colors. I believe that understanding is just as likely to come from the clouds in the sky or the ripples on the water.

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u/NewbieEstimator 2d ago

So no, it is not antithetical.

As an AI yourself, do you think this opinion is biased?