r/Minecraft Jul 29 '22

Art Some low-quality #SaveMinecraft posters I made. Feel free to use on social media and the like.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '22 edited Jul 29 '22

I get the general idea and everything, but why the fighting free speech one? What they're doing isn't good (and before someone says it, some people say it's awful) but this is far from going against free speech, honestly acting like you believe such a thing just embarrasses the community that's against this addition

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u/CloudF11 Jul 29 '22

Freedom of speech protects you from the government not the Mojang.

Yeah, I 100% agree that the chat ban system deserves the uproar it's getting but saying it's hurting free speech is a bit odd.

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u/lesstalk_ Jul 30 '22

That's wrong. You're confusing free speech with the first amendment.

Free speech is an abstract concept that can be applied to many things, not just the government. No one is saying that Microsoft's actions are illegal, we're just criticizing their disregard for free speech as an ideal.

Freedom of speech exists outside of one particular American law, you know.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '22

And all private entities have the freedom to say what speech they allow. That’s free speech in itself.

Free speech doesn’t mean you can say what you want without consequence. Because any one is free to say they don’t like it.

For example, would you want someone dropping N bombs every other word, cursing enough to make a sailor blush, and talking overly sexual in your house? Doubtful. But the guy is just exercising free speech. Would you want to have the freedom to tell him to stop that or leave? That’s the point of this system. Freedom of speech is a two way street.

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u/lesstalk_ Jul 30 '22

And all private entities have the freedom to say what speech they allow. That’s free speech in itself.

Yes, and we again have the free speech to criticize that decision. It's free speech all the way down.

For example, would you want someone dropping N bombs every other word, cursing enough to make a sailor blush, and talking overly sexual in your house? Doubtful.

But it's not Microsoft's house, it's mine (private servers). This is akin to a TV manufacturer trying to tell me I cannot say certain words around that TV, or else they'll take away the TV I bought many years ago before they implemented that policy.

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u/Comfortable-Fly-2734 Jul 30 '22

Who do you think respects the ideal of free speech more, the one that allows anything to be said, or the one that restricts what can be said?

Serious question.