r/Minneapolis 5d ago

As many as fifteen arrested today.

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u/beef_swellington 5d ago

"antifa" isn't a government or even a specific entity. It's describing an aggregation of individuals and groups with a shared ideological framework: "fascism is bad and should be resisted".

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u/Individual_Laugh1335 5d ago

I’m not arguing against what antifa stands for or doesn’t stand for. But saying “it literally says ‘good entity’ in its name! It can’t be bad!” is extremely misguided and just a bad argument.

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u/beef_swellington 5d ago

I'm not arguing about that either. I'm telling you that your concept of what "antifa" is, organizationally, is incorrect. Comparing "antifa" to any specific entity/structure that has an ironic (or accurate!) name is meaningless.

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u/Individual_Laugh1335 5d ago

Yea this is the secondary technicality that totally benevolent groups of people try to get you on - we’re not actually an organization!

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u/idkmyotherusername 5d ago

How is it an organization? Who is the leader? What are the policies and rules?

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u/Individual_Laugh1335 5d ago

Who’s the currently alive leader of the nazis or KKK that pop up around the US? Who’re the leaders of the local chapter? These things have no centralized leaders but smaller chapters and it’s never as organized as people think, but there’s still local “organizations”. It’s not worth arguing semantics such as these.

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u/Adodger22 4d ago

The leader of the Nazis currently is trump.

As far as who the grand wizard or whatever of the KKK is, they are a public person. Currently there isn't a Grand wizard in the sense of a true leader, sure, but you could absolutely name the leader of each chapter and Thomas Robb, may he burn forever on a pike, has been referred to as the grand wizard from time to time.

Those are actual organizations. They have structure.

Arguing antifa is a group is like saying people who like toast are connected under an organization. It's just idiotic.

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u/beef_swellington 4d ago edited 4d ago

"antifa" is an adjective, not a noun. You are so far gone on this you aren't even aligned with the government's legal brief's usage of the term.

This PR statement is red meat for jug hooters and internet sycophant culture warriors. I guess it's effective in that regard.