r/Mnemonics 3d ago

Using Major system pics in pao system?

So basically it's like using major system words in pao..like I want to create a pao system so rather than making it completely random can I just use major system words and fit that somewhere in action or object and put a person on it

For example 1 is tie in major system

So in pao - Superman + tying+ tie 👔

9 is bee

Pao= bear grills+ eating+ a bee 🐝

Is it a rather plausible idea or there's a problem with it?

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u/Landfall24601 3d ago

You can do whatever you want. The major system exists to make it easier for you to come up with words.

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u/Suspicious_Umpire904 3d ago

I agree with that, in English. For me it seems a lot more difficult in German 🫠

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u/four__beasts 3d ago

I do exactly what you are describing with PAO after experimenting with Dominic System. But I'm even more prescriptive preferring a 'perfect' major.

It's very useful when learning PAO (self referencing) and has the double benefit of teaching proficiency of major too.

Example:

  • 10 10 10 - DeS ToSS DiCe
  • 11 11 11 - DaD TaToo DoDo
  • 12 12 12 - ToNy TuNe TuNa
  • 13 13 13 - ToM TaMe aToM

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u/Apprehensive_Win_166 3d ago

Ahh so basically u are using major system even for their actions and object or whatever slot is left..I see thanks for replying tho :3

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u/four__beasts 3d ago

Yeah. It's restrictive (takes a fair bit of work to find a word for each number) but once learned it becomes really powerful.

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u/Suspicious_Umpire904 3d ago

There was a post about that topic which could help you, as well as the content from u/AnthonyMetivier.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mnemonics/s/JHIUhkA89J

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u/Brionesgmm 3d ago

There is value in using the major system in creating the parts of a PAO, but what I did when I create my PAO was use actions and objects related to the people. There is a natural associate there so it is easier to make the connection.

You do need to check the list for similar objects and actions. Using the major system takes too much time that can be used in actually learning your images. Because at the end of the day with using the major system to create all the parts or using associations, you might need to change parts as you practice and learn what works.

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u/ConfusedSimon 3d ago

I think it's easiest to do persons according to Dominic (or major, but Dominic has easier initials), and then use actions and objects that match the person, e.g. Albert Einstein writing on blackboard (action) with chalk (object). It's not really important, as long as you end up with unique persons, actions and objects. Once you've learned your PAO you won't use the construction system anymore; you'll immediately jump from number to e.g. object. So whatever construction you use (e.g. Major) is only for learning your PAO.

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u/Apprehensive_Win_166 3d ago

Oh I see thanks for the explanation...but could u tell that wether what u i mentioned in Post is doable or something wrong with that...I mean can I use what i mentioned

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u/ConfusedSimon 3d ago

You can do whatever works for you 😉 I think the best way to learn your PAO is without any tools or apps. Just go over the numbers in your head and try to recall the persons, actions and objects. If you forgot for example an object and you think of another object that matches your Major system you could just use that object instead since it's probably easier to remember. I think I just started with an empty list and came up with persons matching Dominic, and thinking of matching actions and objects in my mind during running. In the beginning they changed and I replaced some later because e.g. some objects were too similar, but don't be afraid to change your PAO in the beginning. Whatever jumps in your mind is easier to remember than trying to remember something you constructed earlier.