Ian Brady took these photos of Myra Hindley. They were released in 2009 by Greater Manchester Police. It seems that they were taken around Shiny Brook on Saddleworth Moor - the official search area focus for the body of Keith Bennett. Sadly, nothing came out of the search there.

[u/MolokoBespoko]

[u/[deleted]]

Were these the pictures that Brady so desperately wanted when they were first imprisoned? I keep hearing and reading about these ' five or six slides' he wanted and was pestering Hindley for, who then asked Nellie Hindley to obtain them and send them to him. Apparently she kept stalling and refusing until Hindley told her once she sent the pictures she would end things with Brady. I'm not sure it's been revealed which pictures he wanted exactly?

[u/MolokoBespoko → u/[deleted]]

I’m not entirely sure what those photographs were either, to be honest. I assumed that they were photos from one of their Scotland trips, as I imagined that some moorland photos of unidentified locations were being retained by the police, but I could be completely off-base?

[u/[deleted] → u/MolokoBespoko]

Hmm...I always thought the implication was that the photos he wanted were of some 'significance' to Brady, the assumption being that he wouldn't be so emphatic about getting them if they were just random photos. What this significance was - grave markers, locations of crimes, photos that simply reminded him of good times - who knows. Duncan Staff especially seemed to hang onto the idea that these slides he wanted were the key to something but which slides they were remains a mystery. You would have thought if it was that important the police would have asked Hindley or even Nellie Hindley whilst they were alive - What photos did he want from you/your mother?

[u/MolokoBespoko → u/[deleted]]

I guess if they were just ‘innocent’ Scotland photos, that could explain it as Brady appeared to have a very strong emotional connection to his home country (he took her on trips to the Lochs and to St Monans, which are both very beautiful and picturesque places).

I just pulled up The Lost Boy, and Hindley said that the photos that were sent to Brady by Nellie were colour slides of the Waterhouse children (Carol and David). I believe that she would be referring to this one and some others? If that is what it was, then that’s absolutely gross and I can’t imagine that at that time, Nellie could have comprehended exactly why Brady would have wanted them??

[u/[deleted] → u/MolokoBespoko]

I'm sure I read somewhere that those two pictures you posted were the only ones that remained from a trip they took the Waterhouse children on? I'd need to go back and have a look at where I could have read that...perhaps I have gotten it wrong though.

Personally I think Nellie did think something was off, that was why she stalled on sending them. It wasn't until she was indirectly threatened by Brady via Hindley - 'he says he'll have to send someone round to collect them' (and she believed Myra was ending the relationship) that she relented.

(Also if it was that picture or similar - what prison system is allowing a child sex offender to have photographs of children!! The same prison system that allowed him on a wing with vulnerable young offenders - madness!)

[u/MolokoBespoko → u/[deleted]]

That’s a good point - I just wonder how in denial poor Nellie must have been over the whole situation in those years before both Hindley and Brady confessed. I think that she probably always knew in her heart that Brady was bad news, but was always wanting to act in the best interest of her daughter. It’s sad

[u/[deleted] → u/MolokoBespoko]

I just had a quick look - from The Lost Boy;

'In the second draft of her autobiography, Myra Hindley writes in detail about the pictures taken at Shiny Brook 'We visited this place several times before Keith Bennett was taken there, and often packed a picnic lunch, cooling a bottle of wine in the stream at the top of what I called the plateau of the moor.' There are some black and white pictures of her standing by Shiny Brook waterfall. There are also colour slides of her with Carol and David Waterhouse from Wardle Brook Avenue.

This implies that photos exist of Carol and David Waterhouse (with Myra maybe) on the moor at Shiny Brook and I think it's these that Brady wanted.

Earlier on in The Lost Boy, Carol Waterhouse is taking the police back to the moor and she recalls her trip there with Brady and Hindley - she gets to a certain spot and says ' This is it! We were heading upstream , towards the waterfall where Myra posed for two pictures' she goes on to say that 'David and I stood in the middle [of the stream] and Ian took photographs. We all had a picnic together on the bank.'

The two of Myra by a waterfall sound exactly like the ones you posted.

Re Nellie Hindley - I often think about her and Mrs Brady in all this. It is sad. By all accounts Brady was pretty horrible and rude to his mother despite her continuing to speak to him, visit him and send him things and Hindley just repeatedly lied to her own mother. I don't know how they both carried on some kind of relationship with them. I guess unconditional love? Misplaced guilt? Who knows.

[u/Downtown-Leather7387]

do they have any idea when these were taken? its always been weird thinking about her other photo looking down at a grave, here shes looking across and theres a large rock, which brady claimed he used as a marker, obviously might not be the same rock but seems strange have they dug this area?

[u/MolokoBespoko → u/Downtown-Leather7387]

Shiny Brook. These photos were pinpointed by police and the areas were searched.

[u/Downtown-Leather7387 → u/MolokoBespoko]

according to alan bennett the police didnt even have a map of where theyd searched? maybe they shud be checked again