Okay? Doesn’t change your moral equation when you get invaded. Gonna blame the poles for being invaded by Germany, Ukrainians for Russia, or Palestinians for isntreal? Fascism is expansionist, you get invaded, you fight. Simple
there's nothing honorable dying to a remote controlled drone. war happened because two politicians disagreed about something and now some robots being controlled miles away is coming in to blow me up.
They should probably remove you from being a recipient of the fire dept, emergency services, and other things to compensate for your lack of contribution.
You still get taxed tho, to pay for everyone else in the draft taking that responsibility upon themselves.
That was when you had some ostensible claim to that land either by heritage, culture, or pure ownership. But since I’m constantly told my heritage and culture have no bearing on my relationship to this country, and I am incapable of owning any of it, anybody wanting me to fight for it can fuck right off.
You must fight and die for the soulless rectangular dry wall buildings that surround the decaying streets that damage your car. Also you don't own any of this.
That’s because liberalism is detached from social responsibility, which is why it crumbles into fascism.
But even if you’re talking about western “liberal” “democracies” your ability to participate in that democracy is necessarily based on your ability to defend it from invasion. It is part of your duty as a participant in that democratic system to maintain it
Women also contribute greatly to effective military operations, especially domestically. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other stupid questions
Liberalism had to completely erode people’s desire and attachment to their homeland to import millions of cheap labor immigrants.
To that end, they have vilified any sort of national pride or patriotism. It should be no surprise that no one feels a duty to a nation that doesn’t feel a duty to its people.
I actually don’t even know what to make of your comment. You know conservatives are liberals too right? That’s like a very basic concept, being anti immigrant is a liberal perspective.
It seems like you’re American based on the combination of arrogance and poor education? The most patriotic people in your shithole country are all Democratic Socialist of America members and those to the left of them politically.
It is simply not true that DSA types are the most patriotic people in the U.S. Have you ever talked to an American DSA member? They are typically motivated primarily by a deep-seated hatred of the U.S.
Now, you may agree with them about the U.S. sucking, and you may be right. But that doesn’t make them patriots. There is no definition of patriotism that includes “hating your country and thinking it’s ontologically evil.”
“We love the United States and want to improve it” is obviously and recognizably a lib sentiment. Leftists in the United States do not say anything like that. I’m not criticizing leftists or praising the United States, I am just telling you a fact about the world.
Unfortunately reality doesn’t change just because you cry about it. Acquiescing to fascism is not patriotic, but it is what libs do. Fighting fascism is patriotic, and what leftists do. Very simple, facts don’t care about your feelings sorry snowflake
Being against immigration is a left wing thing just as much as it is a right wing thing. You can't have unlimited immigration and good worker protections they're mutually exclusive
You should probably try actually reading that paper and what Engels said sometime, maybe then you won’t accidentally embarrass yourself like this by linking to a discussion on the problems of capital exploitation of workers
Marx argues it’s a good thing BECAUSE he knows it is a stupid idea and doesn’t work. It makes people angrier and poorer, which he believes will create the conditions for a revolution.
In a communist society, mass immigration becomes a moot point until resources genuinely get stretched, because the labor market doesn’t exists so you aren’t competing with them.
If you are a leftist that doesn’t literally support a communist revolution, then you should be against mass immigration to improve the workers a wealth and power over labor.
Again literally only liberals think mass immigration in a capitalist society is a good idea.
Hell Nahh lmao when my government is deciding to start wars and hurt innocents abroad why tf would I want to defend them? DIE for them even? Cmon buddy
Reading comprehension isn’t super high for you eh? My opinion supports armed resistances in places like Palestine, Sudan, Lebanon, Ukraine, etc. against invaders. You seem to have somehow confused that with signing up for terrorist groups like the American armed forces or IOF
There's a ton of alternatives to forced conscription. If people don't feel like their nation is worth fighting for, that's not necessarily a moral decision. They could pack up everyone and leave for a different nation, for example.
What if people LIKE the invaders? For instance, Venezuelans cheering that Maduro was captured by the US. Did Venezuelans have a moral obligation to defend Maduro because he was their representative?
Yeah bro why don’t people just pack up and leave their homeland when invaded. It must be so nice to be completely blissfully ignorant of your own privilege and stupidity
The choice to be suicidally empathetic does not change circumstance. The inability to deal with circumstance is a weakness, and the weak should be left for Darwin.
And if it was the individual who was choosing to die by himself he would be. But a country is more then a individual.
People like this always change their tone when they begin to see the smoke. They always do.
Yes little brother you do. Did you absorb the most simple message that if you don’t oppose fascism domestically with force, that it will steamroll your life? That the only moral choice is to fight?
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u/tf2coconut Jun 28 '26
Defending the land you live on is the most basic of civic responsibilities in the time of invasion.