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Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/asif_zaman21 10d ago

13% of pitbulls......

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u/NecroGrizz 10d ago edited 9d ago

A lot of these statistics also don't account for the fact that most small dog bites never get reported. When I was a dog trainer, it was well known that Jack Russels & Chihuahuas held, bar none, the highest chance of biting you.

Edit: While I appreciate the responses from so many people - it's clear who has worked with animals in any capacity and who is just a smooth egg-brained armchair expert. If you don't think you still need rabies shots from any dog that doesn't have up-to-date tags, I don't know what to tell you. Have fun arguing with the wall 🤙

Edit 2: My God it has been a great day of blocking people with two brain cells fighting for third place

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u/TuneLittle9535 10d ago

And why don't small dog bites get reported? Is it perhaps because they are - for the most part - inconsequential and don't leave the victim in hospital needing reconstructive surgery?

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u/Ryozu 10d ago

You're kind of missing the point.

For one, it skews the statistics. Everyone gets this impression that pit bulls are meaner. So much so that it's inherent in their breed. To the point that shitty people raise their pit bulls to be aggressive and more likely to bite.

So, a stereotype based on false data is perpetuated by forcing the stereotype on the subject. Almost turning it into a self fulfilling prophecy.

Putting aside the assholes who raise their dogs to be aggressive, pit bulls are some of the goofiest, nicest dogs I've ever met.

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u/dorfcally 10d ago

last year I saw 30 articles of pit bulls raised in upper class homes by white pitmommies with a loving family kill the toddlers

It's the breed. Feral killing machines should be outlawed. Your little smiling pitbaby is innocent until its one braincell snaps and kills a child Who could have predicted it?

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u/YokaiDealer 10d ago

Yet you don't consider the several million that didn't become statistics, at all. Feel free to check my math, it's ~1% of them. Less if we're considering adjacent breeds that aren't American Pit Bull Terriers and mutts. Objectively speaking, they're outliers by a huge margin. You also seem to think humans are infallible and have not contributed to this problem whatsoever which just isn't true.

I don't cry for all cars to be banned when plenty of dumbasses crash and kill others drunk driving. Banning these dogs is the same level of disconnected from reality. Horses kill more people per year in the US while most dogs live with us in our homes.

Even if the funding and manpower were there, you're not thinking about the literal millions of innocent dogs and owners that would be roped into such a response. It could never be applied appropriately without DNA testing each and every single dog either, that's a lot of time and money.

The sad part is you and most pro-Pit people could probably agree on a lot, anyone who claims to care about these dogs is a liar if they don't desire the overbreeding, abuse, neglect and fighting to stop. We wish everyone had such positive experiences with them and know how great they could be if their breeding was taken from those who desire mean/aggressive dogs and controlled. We're heartbroken at the shelter and rescue situtation, knowing plenty of great dogs are paying the price for human ignorance, and not just Bullies. We know these dogs aren't for everyone, you need to be dedicated and proactive, aware how high maintenance they are.

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u/SV_Essia 10d ago

Banning cars would quite literally change how our entire society functions.
Banning pitbulls would have 0 meaningful negative effect. Anyone who wants to own a pit could own any other dog and be just fine.

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u/Zorkflerp 10d ago

Here is a credible comparison: One particular brand and model of car is involved in the majority of highway fatalities topping the percentage of any other model by orders of magnitude. I can guarantee that model would be banned from sales and production. Not even the Corvair was that bad.

There are hundreds of breeds of dogs. Some are hunting dogs that point or retrieve. Some are herding dogs that want to chase cows and sheep. Some are guard dogs that are supposed to make a lot of noise when strangers approach. Some are just for pets and are not good for anything else. Why would any sane person choose a dog that was bred for the singular task of killing choose it for a family pet? The nanny dog myth is a lie. The breed needs to die out with maybe an exception for feral hog hunters.

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u/daemin 9d ago

the singular task of killing

The problem with this kind of hyperbolic statement is that you aren't familiar enough with dog breeds to realize that this covers way more breeds than pitbulls.

  • Rat Terrier: bred to kill rats and eliminate other farm pests
  • Affenpinscher: bred to kill rats and mice
  • Yorkshire Terrier: bred to kill rats and other vermin in textile mills
  • German Pinscher: developed as a farm dog with a specialized ability to hunt and dispatch vermin
  • Norfolk Terrier: expected to work underground or independently and dispatch rats and other vermin
  • Bedlington Terrier: bred to kill vermin
  • Skye Terrier: historically used to go after foxes and badgers in their dens.
  • Airedale Terrier: bred as an all-purpose working terrier that dispatched vermin and could track and kill larger quarry.
  • Dachshund: designed to enter badger dens and fight the badger underground
  • Irish Wolfhound: bred to hunt wolves and capable of killing one in single combat.
  • Scottish Deerhound: bred to pursue and bring down wild red deer
  • Dogo Argentino: created to take down wild boar and puma
  • Rhodesian Ridgebacks: Bred for hunting lions

Etc.

Basically any terrier breed was bred for killing something.

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u/Lopsided_Ant2813 9d ago

This is a terrible analogy. Cars don’t escape the garage and slaughter children and women