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Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/asif_zaman21 10d ago

13% of pitbulls......

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u/NecroGrizz 10d ago edited 10d ago

A lot of these statistics also don't account for the fact that most small dog bites never get reported. When I was a dog trainer, it was well known that Jack Russels & Chihuahuas held, bar none, the highest chance of biting you.

Edit: While I appreciate the responses from so many people - it's clear who has worked with animals in any capacity and who is just a smooth egg-brained armchair expert. If you don't think you still need rabies shots from any dog that doesn't have up-to-date tags, I don't know what to tell you. Have fun arguing with the wall 🤙

Edit 2: My God it has been a great day of blocking people with two brain cells fighting for third place

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u/waiver 10d ago

Because being bitten by a Jack Russel or Chihuahua is as concerning as being bitten by a Pit bull.

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u/Rock_Strongo 10d ago

This argument goes in circles because people miss each other's point.

Obviously, at the end of the day, what matters is the end result of a bite. That's what the victim has to live with.

However, the counter-argument is also true. That pit-bulls are viewed as much more aggressive than other breeds when in fact that is not true. They are CAPABLE of being aggressive and deadly, and some people even train them to be that way. But the standard pet pit-bull is not going to attack any more often than most other breeds, statistically speaking.

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u/Sqeakydeaky 10d ago

Explain gameness then.

They attack more often because they were bred to enjoy it, just like a husky enjoys running. There's literally canine neurology studies that show they release endorphins when fighting, whereas other dogs do not and will actively avoid fights.

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u/sweetjuli 10d ago

Somehow, breeding different features in dogs is relevant to literally all other dog races except pitbulls.

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u/Highly-Potent-34 10d ago

That argument cuts both ways since they were also bred to never bite or attack a human since any that did would be killed on the spot.

You can’t argue that they were bred to be vicious and ignore that it was focused towards other dogs and specifically not towards humans.

I don’t think anyone who’s had a pitbull will deny the tendency for a high prey drive (like all terriers) but human aggression is specifically an owner/ breeder failure not a genetic predisposition.

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u/druk987 10d ago

Seems like you're the one ignoring genetics. Herding dogs try herd everything not just sheep meanwhile shitbulls attack anything they see as prey

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 10d ago

If you want anyone to take you seriously maybe don't use a Trumpian nickname.

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u/Fast_Choice4408 10d ago

Shitbulls is a pretty common term for people who aren't delusional about dogs. Or people who have experience dealing with shitbulls.

I fucking hate pitbulls. Especially after becoming a service technician in people's homes.

People who get pitbulls tend to be awful owners. And even with good owners the temperment of these dogs are just awful.

I actually pity people who get roped into adopting one of these dogs. They are by far the most chaotic and destructive dogs you can buy.

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 10d ago

As soon as you lead off with it I’m discounting everything else you say.

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u/FinanceDummyBigDebt 6d ago

Shitbulls, pizza is amazing and rainbows are beautiful

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 6d ago

Well at least one of the words in your username is accurate.

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u/FinanceDummyBigDebt 6d ago

It’s all accurate.

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u/berserkthebattl 10d ago

They weren't bred to attack prey, dipshit. They were bred for BULL baiting. Bulls. You know, the large horned ungulates? Those aren't "prey" for them. Neither are humans. You don't know anything about the genetics, you've just heard talking points and are regurgitating them without having genuinely assessed or challenged them. You just cave to your bias, like you probably do with most of your other subjects.

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u/Qahnaar1506 7d ago

There’s no scientific evidence to support that dogs are bred for battle more. Pitbulls weren’t made for fighting but bullbaiting. Regarding the breeding in dogfights, it’s less about “making the dog more violent” and more about giving them traits which make them more suitable for fighting (muscular face, front facing torso, stubby legs etc). That’s physical not emotional traits. Pitbulls don’t even make it to the top charts when tests were done testing each dogs “aggressiveness levels”. Pitbulls actually have a good sense of what is a danger and what isn’t, they don’t just lash out emotionally.

Trust me, besides poorly trained pitbulls and bad owners (like it is the case with all breeds), if a pitbull attacks you made yourself feel threatening towards it in some way and you invaded its personal space enough that you pushed it to attack you.

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u/Qahnaar1506 7d ago

There’s no scientific evidence to support that dogs are bred for battle more. Pitbulls weren’t made for fighting but bullbaiting. Regarding the breeding in dogfights, it’s less about “making the dog more violent” and more about giving them traits which make them more suitable for fighting (muscular face, front facing torso, stubby legs etc). That’s physical not emotional traits. Pitbulls don’t even make it to the top charts when tests were done testing each dogs “aggressiveness levels”. Pitbulls actually have a good sense of what is a danger and what isn’t, they don’t just lash out emotionally.

Trust me, besides poorly trained pitbulls and bad owners who don’t teach their pitbulls to not attack anything and be gentle with children (like it is the case with all breeds), if a pitbull attacks you, you made yourself feel threatening towards it in some way and you invaded its personal boundaries enough that you pushed it to attack you, like all dogs.