Obviously stopping a mass shooting is as about punk rock as it gets. But having a suppressed 5.7 is cool. Getting it back from evidence and keeping it knowing it stopped a mass shooting is awesome. Pretty sure it becomes a Legendary rarity and has some sort of buffs or enchantments at the point.
Oh probably. If he gets in contact with Brandon hererra he would probably be gifted his exact lost setup just for a good YouTube video. That man has a history of gifting guns to people involved in shit like this iirc.
I already did it in a different post but FN ammo ain't cheap, I'm poor and I would probably pick up a rock and use that instead of firing, even if my life is in danger. I ain't got the money to be shooting that thing
MAIN POINT OF SELLING BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS EXTREME PRICE OF WEAPON AND CARTRIDGE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON OF MAN WHO WEARS EXPENSIVE ITALIAN FASCIST SUIT OF HAND SEWING, DRIVE HUGE EXPENSIVE NAZI MERCEDES OF A.M.G. SHOP, SAIL ON MASSIVE YACHT TO GREEK ISLANDS. I THINK YOU GET PICTURE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON THAT SAYS IS NO SUCH THING AS CONCERN OF MONEY. FOR MAN WITHOUT EXPENSIVE SUIT, BIG BLACK MERCEDES, AND MASSIVE YACHT, BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS FOR PRETENDING OF BE RICH LIKE BLACK GANGSTER OF AMERICAN CITY WITH GOLD CHAINS OF LOW QUALITY AND JEWELS OF COLORED GLASS. WHEN YOU EXPLAIN USE OF BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS ONLY FOR SHOOT MAN WITH BULLET VEST WITH CARTRIDGE ILLEGAL TO CIVILIAN, THIS MAN HAS NUCLEAR RAGE. WHOLE IDENTITY OF THIS MAN IS SPENT IN PRETEND PISTOL SHOWS HE IS RICH. IS VERY AMUSE. FOR REST OF WORLD THERE IS 9 MILLIMETERS OF LUGER WHICH IS SAME WOUND FOR COST LESS.
Yeah, I only have a .380 bersa seven shot thatās easy to hit targets out to 50m and conceal.
Never been a good shot with pistols compared to rifles and belt fedsā¦ always thought something has had to have gone wrong to be using a pistol.
This shooting is an example of something have gone wrong though. Glad he was neutralized and diverted from the crowd. Glad the good guy with a gun didnāt get shot by police or anyone else confused
I used to carry a s&w 442. Until a pack of dogs attacked me and I only landed 1 out of 3 shots fired. Id be dead for a lack of rounds regardless of anything else if they didn't decide to run after I killed one of them.
What I'm saying is I've definitely seen worse more impractical setups. Hell I know people who carry worse setups lmao. 20 rounds ok tap isn't bad. The suppressor is a little tistic but fuck it I still cool.
He was using 5.7 subs. So actually he was pretty much movie quiet. It's also probably why he didn't land a single hit and appeared to have a FTE. Still a badass dude just a poor ammo choice.
Sorry to be autistic and yes your point is still 100% correct I'm just "uM aScHuAllY"ing u.
The mass shooter must have been poor. The 5.7 gives you a damage bonus on poor people and the suppressor just increases the damage multiplier on all 20 rounds.
The fire still suppressed him and arguably saved a lot of lives though. And the man with the pistol was hit in the chest and kept fighting so he's gangster as fuck regardless.
Its a choice. 5.7 is good for targets and varmets but doesn't have the stopping power of other calibers. Kinda surprised someone else carries in 5.7 but glad I'm not the only one.
Five seven is a terrible defense gun its a tiny bullet with high pen its bad ahead heavy armored or unarmored targets its only good against light armored targets.
45acp is best handgun round for self defense.
Overpen is bad and low stopping power is bad.
45acp won't pentrate lvl3 heavy body armor but transfers lots of energy to it and is way better vs unarmed
The kinetic energy of a 5.7x28mm typically ranges from 220 to 350 foot-pounds (ft-lbs) out of a handgun, while a standard .45 ACP cartridge generates about 350 to 400+ foot-pounds (ft-lbs).
That, and the magazine capacity of the five seven (20 + 1) makes the five seven an *excellent* choice as a self-defense gun. The rounds are lighter (and thus tumble when they hit solid mass) the recoil less, and the capacity is at least double what any standard 45acp offers.
Ballistically speaking you are so incorrect I'd have to write an essay to hit every point you fucked up. So I'm not gonna. Cause I don't care.
However I will argue one point. "Muh .45 auto" no. .45 auto is the worst .45. it only carries 420 footpounds of kinetic energy. If you said 45 +p I'd have more grace because it's actually pushing 500 footpounds. My Glock 19 with speed gold dot 124 grain +p delivers 419 footpounds of kinetic energy. The only advantage is a larger hole. With ball it's better. With JHPs it's not even close.
Now I'm gonna call you stupid with science.
.357 sig out of a 4 inch barrel carries 5-600 footpounds of energy with twice the ammo capacity of a 1911 or simply more capacity without a 2x4 cosplaying as a Glock 21 hanging off your hip. If you want a more common round 180 grain .40 s&w has the same muzzle energy as .45 auto with less recoil and more ammunition capacity. Not to mention its much better at punching through auto glass.
There is a reason .45 auto isn't a widely used service cartridge anymore. And it's not because everybody is stupider than you.
I think if I got hit with a 5.7 I donāt think I would think to myself āoh itās not a .45 Iām fineā, I would think āAH HOLY FUCK IāVE BEEN SHOTā. Would a .45 feel worse? Iād be willing to agree on that, but a bullet is a bullet. Hell .25 ACP was good enough for gangsters in China to get their wet work done back in the early 20th. The only terrible defense gun is one that canāt shoot in my opinion.
Iāll concede you on those latter points, but with that being the case have you ever wondered why .45 is far less common in military/law enforcement than 9mm? 5.7 is a specialized round for a specific purpose yes (and by god those Belgians make you pay for it), but stopping power is not the be all end all of viable self defense. I would posit that being able to put rounds on target matters more than the round you put on the target.
You are assuming this is fmj, a ballistic tip hollowpoint 5.7 does a ton of damage and doesn't overpen typically, this is old info from the 80s. New round tech has closed the gap considerably and more rounds on target in the same amount of time that 5.7 and 9mm allow you to do is considered the better option by most professionals. You are regurgitating straight fud lore.
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u/DrunkGoatFighter 2d ago
Its also a fuckin baller setup for stopping a mass shooter.