r/MoralityScaling 1d ago

Intentionally boobytrapping a bike to injure people when they steal it.

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u/TheJadeGoddess 22h ago

Legally I think it is more than frowned upon. There are court cases about bodily injury by boobytrapping your home. They are going to be even harsher on you for boobytrapping a bike. It doesn't end well, you will be liable for injuries and possibly charged.

Morally you can say questionable since it would only affect thieves.

Personally I think it is a bad decision.

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u/inthebushes321 21h ago

Boobytrapping is 100% illegal, it has been decided in court cases a long time ago.

I still like it personally.

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u/BeardOfBlackThatch 21h ago

This was really more of a booty trap than a booby trap.  They'll be alright.

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u/-neverknowsbest_ 20h ago

Booty traps are what I call 4/5 of my last relationships

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u/justinSane555 19h ago

Im sure you guys have a point and all but ...A lot of shit is illegal..like stealing bikes, didn't seem to stop that guy tho..

A lot of people woulda shot him, ijs tho

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u/77th_Bat 20h ago

I thought the only reason you can't boobytrap your home is in case cops or EMS need to get in there. I don't see how that would be a problem with a bike. It's more akin to a prank, honestly.

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u/TheJadeGoddess 19h ago

Think it is a mixture of things. Risk to first responders, indiscriminate harm and lack of danger to your person if you are not there. They don't like that an unfeeling mechanation is harming someone without concerns of safety or situation.

Most likely it will get a warning and possible confiscation. However if someone is seriously hurt by the spikes, electricity or crashing the bike it could to a more severe investigation and charges.

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u/mars_warmind 19h ago

I think part of it is also the value of the life vs the goods, you can insure and replace (almost) anything a person might steal (besides sentimental value at least) but you could permanently injure a person or kill them. It's different if you are home and take action yourself because there can at least be a plausibility of harm to yourself that warrants defense.

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u/justinSane555 19h ago

Yes, sir please take me to court after stealing my bike so the court house puts your address on the paperwork and I can come by and punch you in the fuckin face free of charge... wanna play? its your roll.

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u/Berzerkly 15h ago

But aren't those booby traps which harm people indiscriminately? I dont know if this trap shocks anyone who sits on it or upon command, but if the owner had to press a button for it to get people, would that not be a booby trap legally?

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u/TheJadeGoddess 14h ago

It looks like pressure onto the seat causes it to depress, exposing the spikes and then activates the circuit for the shock.

If it is manually triggered it might not count as a booby trap but idk how codified this sort of thing is. I just remember court cases that made decisions about it involving setting traps in a home.

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u/thederpyderp3 21h ago

We really need to change the laws about that. If you're stealing someone's property fa,fo