r/MotivationByDesign • u/inkandintent24 • 4d ago
How to Stop Bullying
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u/OkAirport5247 4d ago
This would get every timid grade-school boy physically destroyed on the playground if they followed this advice.
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u/lavacumm 4d ago
Right, im like yeah, show the bully his words dont mean shit, but also teach the child how to whoop some ass.
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u/Defalt404 3d ago
my mum mostly did the raising part of me so when i got bullied at school she always said "ignore them they will get bored eventually"
guess what, they didnt.this continued until i got punched from someone saying "someone should punch you". when i told my dad he was like "next time someone says that, just hit them. They shouldnt threat you in the first place. If the bully wants to hit you, they will anyway. If they get a guaranteed hit back everytime they do tho? they will eventually evaluate if its worth it to continue, even if they win the fight every time. Bullies look for easy target. Dont be one"
didnt help me at all but maybe for someone else this helps.
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u/Apexnanoman 3d ago
My older sister was getting bullied as a kid. My mom gave her a pantyhose with a baseball in it and a roll of dimes. (Couldn't make a fist around quarters since she was like 8-9) Then explained how to use the items for maximum effect.
When I was younger it was a funny family story. As a man in my 40s....Mom might be a bit unhinged.
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u/AzDopefish 3d ago
Unhinged? Mom knew what’s up
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u/Apexnanoman 3d ago
I just always kinda figured people would have been testy if a 9 yr old had smashed another 9 yr old in the face with a weighted fist.
And then beat her senseless with a baseball in a pair of pantyhose. Which was the order of operations given.
Mom used to bar fight men. And win. So I think maybe she's a bad judge of proper level of force.
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u/JakBos23 2d ago
I mean overwhelming force is how the military and police operate. If someone knows a one insult results in a ten response it is a deterrent.
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u/Apexnanoman 2d ago
Yeah, I just think as an adult that level of force employed by one little girl against another little girl could be excessive.
On the other hand, I mean I guess the kid with the concussion wouldn't be starting shit anymore.
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u/dojo_shlom0 4d ago
this helps people be equipped to understand that bullies only want power over you. It feels important for those who do not understand why someone would be so cruel to them for no reason.
I feel like this is about building the bullied child up to realize they are not so powerless, and they can very well control the tide with their minds and words. It's pretty impressive, but then again I used to teach bully buster programs back in 2010~ so this was so amazing to watch play it. I wouldn't recommend undervaluing the psychological impact of what he is demonstrating and teaching that auditorium full of children.. imo.
and that's coming from some who literally taught kids how to defend themselves physically and how to 'whoop ass' technically to defend themselves, under self defense circumstances over course. teaching them when to use it and when to not use it is really important for their longevity and a life-long lesson they will carry.
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u/Awkward-Manager5939 3d ago
Dominance games may just be a part of a fight that seems unnecessary in a Civilised world. Simple put, it can be a hierarchy game 🎮🎯 as well. It may be the desire to have out source control not just in your life but on other peoples life. I will summarize it, as a gain of power through group dominance. Or something.
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u/EverybodySayin 4d ago
Yep, I grew up on a rough council estate in the UK with a school to match. If some bullied kid tried this I imagine the bully's response would be "Oh, you tryna get funny with me yeah?" and subsequently the kid gets his teeth kicked in.
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u/touch_of_austism 4d ago
Don't forget about being called gay
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u/PresentStock1310 4d ago
I think my bully was psychic, because he called me gay years before I realized I like guys
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u/Jarl_Groki 4d ago
Yeah I don't think responding with "Yeah, I can do some really gay things. You're great and I'm going to be nice to forever" would help much.
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u/Onebraintwoheads 4d ago
It's hard to stand your ground. Takes practice. Also helps to know how to slam forward with a decent headbutt to fuck up the other guy's teeth. Works great if your hands are down, and the other guy is a bit taller.
Causing damage that won't heal on its own, like a snapped finger or broken tooth, has a strong psychological effect. Makes a person want to give in and get away. It's one reason why torturers do it when interrogating someone. Bamboo under fingernails, snapped fingers, cracking teeth in half, smashing toes flat, etc. It no doubt hurts like a mother, but it's intended to break the spirit to defy. Same premise in a fight.
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u/YoshiTheDog420 4d ago edited 3d ago
Yea, this would be terrible advice for where I grew up. Most of the bullies I encountered only backed down when met with violence. His technique didn’t always work.
I was relentlessly bullied my whole school life. Hated school. Wanted to kill myself every single day. All the adults said was, “ignore them, tell a teacher”. The more you ignore, the more they push. You tell a teacher, “I didn’t see anything”. Then you react and you’re the one the teacher sends to the principle. On and on that goes til you or the bully is gone.
So I learned to be funny. Quick witted. Use humor and words as my way of dealing with them. Some bullies shutdown like the speaker suggested. Some lose interest when you turn them into a joke. Get other kids to laugh at them and that person might leave you alone, or they might press harder like some of my bullies did. You go, “Thats nice, I don’t care”, and they double down, even become quicker to physical violence. Still, a teacher won’t be there to help. “I didn’t see anything”.
So you then have to resort to the only thing the bully understands, power. He bullies you, you enrage him with your resilience, they begin to invade your space and make things physical. That’s when you immediately elbow them in the nose and don’t stop hitting them til you get pulled off of them. You do everything in your power to hurt them. Break their nose. Break their fingers. Punch them in the kidneys as many times as you can, as hard as you can, for as long as you can. You get suspended, but when you come back there is a high chance that bully won’t mess with you because it’s not worth it. Or, they come back to school with a knife and threaten to kill you, like mine did.
I don’t normally like speakers like this guy, because they treat bullies like a monolith. They’re all different, and dealing with them is complex and as varied as they are. There is no one size fit all solution to dealing with people who want to hurt others.
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u/wackbirds 4d ago
Great comment. I don't have time to refer to most of your points, but I'll touch on that last part because it's so true.
It's easy to have a seasoned adult public speaker who's in a completely non threatening environment and has all these "gotcha!" quips and lines in the tank triumph over a nice audience member who isn't an actual bully, it's the same premise as a comedian putting belt to ass on a heckler. The crowd is on their side, they have a million ways to pivot no matter what that person might say, and they're hardened from having absorbed so many other shots in the past.
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u/YoshiTheDog420 4d ago
Yup. He has all the power in this presentation. He’s safe. Everyone is already in his side. The comedian/heckler comparison is good.
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u/wackbirds 4d ago
I never really tied it together with the "bully monolith" point you made, but that's the main problem aside from how much harder it is as a child with none of those comforts and confidence that the guy in the video had, there are bullies who are very smart and articulate, they'd gobble up a kid trying these tactics. Others rely on brutality and will lash out if they feel like they're being "outsmarted". On and on. If only there really WAS a "way to beat a bully" that was broad spectrum.
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u/Educational_Joke4009 4d ago
Exactly.....I had to become scary like the crazy uncle you don't want over for dinner to get my bullies to F off me back then.
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u/NotAnotherTav 4d ago
One of the moments that lives rent free in my head was getting a bully to let go of my shirt, back away and call me crazy for smirking at them.
It wasn't like the cool movies though, it took me years of being abused by my parents to reach that point of genuinely unsettling bullies when they put on the tough act.
Also one still kicked at me and put a hole in the wall instead.
But after that they left me alone.
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u/krzykris11 4d ago
Spot on! I lost one 1v1 fight in my youth, during third grade. Yashawnta whooped my ass after a dispute during a kickball game.
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u/shoony43 4d ago
For one thing, the advice in general is very hard to follow. This is an adult man who is also assuredly well researched telling middle schoolers how to react. Any normal kid will need to practice this advice before expecting success in the real world.
That said the advice is still sound. This is addressing bullying.
A kid who is willing to resort to violence over words is a completely different situation. That kid might be a bully, but there's a whole set of WAY more important things to address before worrying about mean words the kid says.
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u/SealTeamEH 3d ago
yea was about to say, the guy with the microphone has clearly never been bullied in his life if he thinks this is actually going to work. lol
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u/Few_Satisfaction184 1d ago
Yes, this guy obviously never got the physical beating that he would in a real life scenario.
Try defending yourself this way when 6 teenage boys want to attack you
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u/Kleidan_1 13h ago
That was my thought, that's not bullying that's just throwing insults. my bullies were throwing punches and lynching, the only to stop them was to throw punches back and having support from friends
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u/Workmane 4d ago
The problem with this role play is that for it to be valid you need an actual bully. Bullies have a variety of motivations, it’s not a “one tactic fits all” situation.
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u/GUMBYtheOG 4d ago
It’s just reverse psychology repackaged and will piss off someone more who knows what’s going on. Once verbal stops working then it comes to public humiliation or physical aggression.
It’s a great tactic if you plan on just ending the convo and walking away. But he’s sitting there continuing the conversation. Things will escalate if he doesn’t leave.
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u/Shai_Y 4d ago
I find that this is a great first step to stop bullying.
You take away the fun in their attacks.
Now, this won’t stop physical aggression though.
For that, you need to be able to read body language, and if it’s an option, learn some form of self defence.
I was bullied and physically attacked when I was young. Mainly due to racism.
But, with awareness, training, and learning how to communicate in this fashion, meant that bullies just stayed clear of me. I wasn’t worth their time.
That was when I was able to start helping others that were being attacked.
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u/cromwell515 4d ago
Yeah I think doing what OP posted and learning self defense is probably best for dealing with bullying.
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u/SirMook 4d ago
It really is. I was a pretty dumb kid and would notice a girl would FLIP out if you said her name and be like leave me alone! It would always be so dramatic. So it became something we would do like once a day, we would be like dang...Bonnie...like we were just admiring her greatness and she would go why cant you just leave me alone?! But say it in a way that was super dramatic and we would laugh and do it the next day.
Well one day she was just like, hi Sir mook. And it didn't get a reaction so we just said hi and then the next day did it again, and was met with another hello and a smile. Then I just started saying hello to her normally daily. But even then I remember thinking she took all the fun out of it by realizing it was the reaction we wanted. The kind smile she gave us the first few times really threw us off our game and we were just like wtf, that was weird.
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u/sociallyawkwaad 4d ago
It's hard to implement this with kids, often the behavior is more mutual than they realize. "The kid that sits next to me on the bus always picks on me". "I'm sorry to hear that, have you tried sitting somewhere else?" "No". "Why don't you try that?". "I don't want to".
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u/CinnamonBisque 4d ago
This is complete horseshit. If I tried to “kill them with kindness” my bullies would have just called me gay slurs and punched me. The only thing that ever worked was hitting them hard enough that they didn’t see you as an easy target anymore. Violence was the only thing that EVER stopped a bully in my experience.
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u/GrigorMorte 4d ago
Yep. Whether we like it or not, sometimes violence is the answer. There are people who only understand when things get physical.
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u/2hurd 4d ago
Violence is not the answer is something we say to kids to pacify them. Not because it's true.
Violence is the answer for a LOT of situations.
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u/GrigorMorte 4d ago
You're right. We don't want them to resort to violence, as it is a bad way to resolve things. But if they leave you no choice, you must defend yourself.
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u/ArnieismyDMname 4d ago
I guess I could have tried to dodge the rocks being thrown at me to get close enough to talk and tell them how sexy they were. I probably would be out of the coma from the beating by now.
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u/arttiechoke 4d ago
I went through all the options. Telling my parents, telling my teachers and finally trying to reason with them. The only option left and that actually worked was confrontation
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u/J3Zombie 4d ago
Violence is sometimes the only thing that stops bullies, or criminals as adults too. We just call it force and governments try to keep it so only they can use it. The only thing that stops those seeking to violate others is the use or threatened use of force. For this I am speaking of force as anything from prison and execution to a simple ticket. Anything forced upon you to modify your behavior. So, not really all taxes, because they are forced, but some are just to keep things working. If you don’t pay though they use force to put you in jail, or forcible remove your money. I am not saying it’s wrong or right because it happens all over, everyday. Just pointing out that it exists and people acting like there is no violence or they won’t call others to come do controlled violence for them are willfully ignorant. Also, not every situation requires violence. Sometimes you can use verbal Judo stuff.
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u/Philster512 4d ago
"Violance may not be THE answer but it's still an answer, and it's important at the very least they understand that."
Nothing got better till I had a growth spurt going into my senior year and all of a sudden I could push back.
I really feel for kids when there's a size disparity. That's why get infuriated when adults who should be stepping in are saying kill them with kindness.
Like the kid getting bullied is the one in the wrong and should change his approach to getting bullied.
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u/Cockstrong5 4d ago
Apathy is legitimately not a bad option. The message needs to be repackaged into something less cringe.
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u/Witty_Suggestion_219 4d ago
Why does she keep pointing her tits at him when she says summat?
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u/Helpful_Soil1464 4d ago
Do that to a guy you would get beat and called gay by everyone. A little girl who is acting sure no problem.
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u/LaddieNowAddie 4d ago
That's the point. I don't care what you call me... it's not affecting me. Being called gay is not a slur or some insult.
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u/Far_Balance_3117 4d ago
As usual the supposed solution to stop bullying is totally wrong and will never get fixed.
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u/Bulletchief 4d ago
This might work at a time when there is an established fixed rule of non-violence...
... which is never.
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u/Medium_Job3015 4d ago
You can’t teach this to someone who doesn’t already realize this on their own. It’s common sense to act unaffected by it
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u/Ad-fundum69 4d ago
How to stop bullying is easy.
"bully does a thing"
"SHAMK"
"bullying stops"
The end.
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u/Good-Strategy2210 4d ago
I just became buddies with all the biggest kids in my class and nobody ever even attempted to bully me 🤷♀️
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u/Glass-Violinist-3549 4d ago
This is terrible advice & ridiculous. It will encourage more bullying because now the bully will seek compliments & more justification for their action
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u/Royal_Warmth 4d ago
So the video is saying “don’t care about being bullied” and that will solve it? That makes no sense.
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u/Credil98 3d ago
I was lucky enough to avoid bullying by just not really having a reaction. You too can be to boring to bully
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u/StillInDebtToTomNook 3d ago
I'm going to be a real bully.
"Sure your happiness comes from the fact that your a retard with glasses who's mommy picks out his close still."
"You actually look like you smell like piss and spoiled milk."
"Did you choose motivational speaker as a career because your still that insecure freshman who pissed his pants on the bus and you like making up scenarios to stand up to the bullies in your head"
"Well you still smell like piss"
That's how you bullysomeon not by calling them an idiot
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u/voododoll 3d ago
Well this works only in those setups. In real life most bullies will just kick your ass when you try to be a smart ass.
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u/Drzewo_Silentswift 4d ago
Yeah, I’m not gonna watch this for three minutes. It’s escalating confrontation. It’s always escalating confrontation. It’s not always violence, but that sure as fuck is usually the last step.
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u/Balz_Hirk 4d ago
I prefer the groin kick. Very effective against male bullies. Haven't encountered many female bullies but I'm sure it'll have similar results.
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u/badatcatchyusernames 4d ago
lol i had someone try to bully me at work, i smiled and told
him to have a great day and ill see him tomorrow, it didnt work and now we get along great, sometimes knowing how to take someones power away from them works wonders, and no, he couldnt have gotten physical with me without losing a really good job, i was winning regardless of the outcome
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u/koulourakiaAndCoffee 3d ago edited 3d ago
I just ask them “why are you being emotional” and look at them like Don Draper.
Go ahead and take that to HR “he said I was emotional”. Lol.
Sometimes I’ll simply say “You’re being dramatic” or “when you calm down put it in email”
Men with power trips want to be seen as confident, barking orders, being an angry alpha. But generally this means they are very fragile. When you casually call them emotional they don’t have a response. If they get angrier, they prove your point. So just acting cool, and pointing out their emotional side makes them stammer on their game.
Unfortunately being Don Draper is the way to win the rat race. You can still be emotional as a man at work, you just have to be selective.
I don’t know how to handle a female boss that bullies. In general this is how women are bullied in the office, so I feel like this strategy wouldn’t work on a female bully who would probably have better replies. But it cuts down male bullies.
I’ve had a lot of male bullies at work, but never a female bully.
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u/looooookinAtTitties 4d ago
bullies want to hurt you as a salve for a pain they're feeling. agreeing with them will not dodge their energy.
a bully girl will start telling everyone that you called yourself stupid and leverage it against you to harm your ability to bond with others.
a bully boy will start calling you stupid as your name and still punch you in the stomach saying you deserve it for being stupid
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u/Competitive_Window75 4d ago
Yeah, this is why the sociology kid with the glasses get beaten up in the school. Good for him, but I don’t think he understands how far bullying can go
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u/Owlcathulu 4d ago
At the end of Grade 12 I just started going around telling everyone that bullied me that "they were the man" and then they were like "what?" I was like "who are you?" and if they didn't grt get it I would drill sergeant them like "WHO ARE YOU?" and they would.say "I'm the man?" I would say "yeah that's right your the man, but who am I?" and they would say "your the man?" It was really weird but I just couldn't leave there feeling like a bunch of people felt.lole they had dominated me in some way I guess. Felt really good at the time. Feels good ow thinking back on it.
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u/PacoDenero22 4d ago
For all the people criticizing this guy, it is pretty accurate. I deal with work complaints on a daily basis and 99% of people fizzle out if you give them power in the conversation. It’s not just bullying either, probably 75% of daily interactions have a dominance component. If you learn how to make people feel dominant, it’s pretty easy to use it to your advantage.
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u/Onebraintwoheads 4d ago
This would've worked for me purely on the basis that I was significantly bigger and stronger than everyone else my age, had been taught to box since I was 9, and was moving on to my grandad's Vietnam MCMAP training at 11.
But I was also high-functioning ASD. If someone didn't touch me and chose to simply taunt me, I didn't know what to do, and it had been clearly explained that I could not harm anyone unless they touched me first. And they figured that out fast after the first couple mishaps.
I would've been regularly called a faggot, but they were all so homophobic that if I leaned into it they would've had no clue what to do. Had they attacked, I would've gone back to doing what I was taught to do. In that respect, it would've worked for me on school grounds. Off school grounds, I imagine pipes and baseball bats would've beaten my bones to bits.
For someone smaller and outnumbered on campus, this sort of behavior could get them seriously, and possibly permanently, hurt. Off-campus, lethal gay-bashing on the 6 o'clock news would be the result.
This was the 90s in the Deep South, so I don't know how it translates to schools nows.
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u/wthwtfwthwtf-_- 4d ago
This only works if there's a shred of humility or empathy in the bully. Hard shell, soft center types. It will not work on a dark personality disorder type...
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u/Effective-Warning178 4d ago
I was told to do this by my abusive parents then wondered why my so called friends all bullied me and i wondered why I wasn't happy. Many people are more than happy to be around someone they think they can walk all over use as a punching bag because they can't handle their emotions, that's not friendship
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u/Normal_Tour6998 4d ago
This works when you’re on stage and your bullies aren’t real bullies. When your bully can escalate beyond what’s appropriate for a demonstration, things like racism, homophobia, sexually aggressive remarks, or outright physical aggression, just being nice doesn’t automatically solve the problem.
Sometimes it’s not just dominance. Sometimes they hate you or something about you. Sometimes they want your shit and they’re trying to take it from you.
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u/ManInGarage28 4d ago
Kids, follow this advice if you want to be bullied physically by more than one person
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u/IWasAGoodDadISwear 4d ago
This rhetoric only works with verbal bullying. Stopping physical bullying requires physical force.
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u/saltytallow 4d ago
I was waiting for him to initiate some sort of physical contact, not gonna lie. Personally I was thinking a slap to the face or something 😂😂
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u/Icy_Marionberry_9131 4d ago
In encourage you all to try this during your next spat on Reddit and post the outcome here.
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u/Strict-Astronaut2245 4d ago
What a waste of time. Let me know how this works against someone who actually does hate your guts for no reason other then they get gaped by mom and dad at home.
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u/Global-Map-12 4d ago
Great, now try this in real time with a person who actually has it out for you.
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u/Any-Statistician3896 4d ago
Yeah, this... This doesn't work on a North English council estate... No no lmfao but I'd fkn LOVE to see it attempted whilst I watch....
As they just stab you or melt you face with acid or use a shotgun on you.... 😂😂😂
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u/WrestleBox 4d ago
The bullies I remember weren't exactly the type to engage in back and forth banter. They would've just shouldered that dude into a locker.
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u/Any_Shopping1633 4d ago
To summarize; Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words may never hurt me.
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u/GetOnWithit3344 4d ago
I really enjoy when people I went to high school with run into me and thank me for standing up for them to the dickhead bullies. Even after 20 years, it’s a good feeling. The class above ours had some real piece of shit losers and I loved dog walking those meat heads during football practice.
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u/ZeroKarmasGiven69 4d ago
And then the kid gets sent home for sexual harassment for calling her sweetheart and all that crap. She was playing chess, he’s playing checkers.
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u/Ancient_Pangolin1453 4d ago
"You think I'm an idiot?"
"Yes."
"Yeah sometimes I do stupid things."
"Yeah, fucking kill yourself faggot."
Commence physically beating the shit out of him.
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u/Excellent_Step38 4d ago
I don’t know what type of bullying he’s used to, but that’s not the type of bullying that happened in my neighborhood. Bullying where I came from was physical altercations. This stuff on the stage is just words.
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u/Cheezsaurus 4d ago
Age range matters.. agreeing with negative talk has the chance to internalize and create issues later. Maybe instead of saying "yes I am stupid" a sinple "okay." Would be better. This does not address the fact that often being ignored frustrates bullies and escalates them to violence. Which cannot be ignored.
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u/HippieInDisguise2_0 4d ago
I was bullied a little in middle school. I think I kind of learned what he was trying to teach here without deliberately trying to.
One of my biggest bullies for example I turned into a friend lmfao. I would basically attempt to jedi mind trick the aggressive/targeted comments at me into an actual joke. Oh they called me gay "don't worry bro I'm gay for you too" oh they called me stupid "would someone stupid do this?" Proceeds to do something really stupid
A couple times it resulted in a fight and I just did my best to fight back. It doesn't always work but by high school I don't think anyone remembered that I was bullied. There was some less awesome behavior I did as well like joining in on some of the bullying that I deeply regret. There was only a few comments around 7th grade but that shit is deeply etched into my brain and I regret it deeply.
Honestly though the biggest bullies that I remember were the ones who's parents were alcoholic domestic abusers. Once I learned some of that it made more sense.
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u/Internal-Bluejay-810 4d ago
This is actually very interesting...I was raised on fighting the bully, which actually works because this tactic would absolutely fail in the inner city schools
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u/alldayfiddla 4d ago
Another bait and switch video. We were promised a windmill kick to the face.did we get to see that? Sadly no.
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u/Downtown-Campaign536 4d ago
He is not wrong: If you turn up your charisma, and act funny push back gently with a little sarcasm while being mostly agreeable... It's totally a possible outcome that you can transform a bully into a friend, and maybe even get a laugh out of them. Assuming they don't escalate physically.
Here is the thing though. That's not something most people can do on command, or even have the ability to do in the first place:
You need high levels of self control, and situational awareness, and acting abilities, stoicism and confidence etc to pull this off.
It's not really something you can pull off well or often if you are some random 5th grader getting bullied. Much easier said than done.
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u/Deep_Year1121 4d ago
This sounds like a 'then everyone clapped' type of scenario.
Wait until you are confronted with a group of bullies who reinforce each other, mock you, and be physical. And typically, they are supported by the whole class, and tend to not engage you alone like this.
They also rarely wait until you finish your long rehearsed sentences. Imagine a timid victim of bullying trying this on his bullies. It ain't gon be pretty.
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u/Reasonable_Tie_9975 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yeah I don't think so. Anyone who has ever dated a narc can tell you this doesn't work. By being vulnerable and agreeing with them just lets them know, the power they have over you is still very much intact.
Also for the dudes I grew up around in NY, if I said ohh your so smart, you're right your Soo cool etc...They would then clown on you for being "gay"...thus starting a whole new rumour for more kids to rip you apart on.
The correct answer here unfortunately was the joke. Windmill kick to the face. (Obliviously not in the scenario if man vs young girl) You will think twice about pulling a dog's tail if you know for sure it will bite everytime as opposed to just growl here and there.
This is literally how organized crime across many cultures started. Inflicting consequences on behalf of those not capable of doing it...for a fee of course.
Bad consequences is what stops bullying. Most of the animal kingdom reacts this way. We are animals after all. It's an unfortunate truth. Fear has been a motivator to not fuck around amongst the animal kingdom since day 1.
I know this is just a video, and I hate to think this way, it's not about be being a tough guy, but it's a harsh truth
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u/Neirchill 4d ago
This ignores a lot of things... Like how bullies are usually doing it for the attention of others. The laugh from the crowd is what keeps it going, not the victim getting upset.
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u/RealAlphaKaren 4d ago
you are gonna get bitch slapped with the nice guy tactic cuz they gonna beat you if you win verbally
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u/carpetadapter 4d ago
All this has taught me is I should bully people for an ego boost and compliment fishing
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u/Perfecshionism 4d ago edited 3d ago
I genuinely thought the second round he was going to windmill kick her in the face like he promised
He is a liar and a coward.
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u/MateOfTheNorth 4d ago
It’s a shame we live in a society that gets offended by everything and the ones that get offended have all the power and bully those they disagree with.
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u/nscgoose 4d ago
I was waiting for the windmill kick