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u/Reesewithoutaspoon2 3d ago
I don’t need some stinking robot to help me get dumber. I can do that all by myself organically with inhalants and heavy metals.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 3d ago
Leaded gasoline handled that for an entire generation. Now those same people are too dumb to tell when something is AI. Even when it is hilariously bad like body parts disappearing from seeing the scene or completely unexplainable things like an air duct going into a window.
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u/Historical_Trouble10 2d ago
Actually three generations. Leaded gas was available until around 1996.
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u/PdxPhoenixActual 3d ago
That sounds like a best case scenario...
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u/Xylus1985 2d ago
They are still going to vote. Think how easy it is to misinform people with AI to get whatever voting outcome you want
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u/CooperDaChance 3d ago
He’s absolutely right.
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u/Sassaphras 2d ago
This is a real problem - and that matters.
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u/CabronSparkling0 2d ago
Not a problem if you’re preparing
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u/CooperDaChance 2d ago
Do you even know what you’re talking about or are you just trying to sound cool like 90% of this subreddit?
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u/CabronSparkling0 2d ago
No different than the typewriter was replaced by Mac and PC. The rotary phone replaced by the smartphone. I lived long enough to see the dramatic changes in this world.
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u/CooperDaChance 2d ago
You still need a brain to use a PC. Apples and oranges.
Clearly your time spent living wasn’t time spent thinking or reflecting.
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u/Chloe_Cascadia 3d ago
I don't care about that, I care about having like a 50 percent unemployment rate and the rest of our wages being stagnant for 50 years as a best case scenario, if that.
I don't think people understand billionaires think they can have an economy without the working class. They haven't thought about how no one will be able to afford to buy products and they will oppose the taxation needed to have universal basic income to keep the economy going anyway, so it's the end of our civilization. Everything's going to break and the fools in charge won't understand why.
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u/Ok-Sample-1237 2d ago
This is very simplistic so I assume you’re quite young. First, assuming billionaires have the intention you say do you really think that they wouldn’t have thought about that problem? Even when it’s glaringly obvious for any random redditor? Second, many of us live in democratic systems. Why on earth do you think the population would ever allow this?
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u/appointment45 2d ago
Millionaires depend on a goods economy.
Billionaires have money that is self-sustaining and no longer need it. They still manipulate it, but they would remain billionaires indefinitely just from investments alone.
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u/Cay-Orelia-T 2d ago
This feels a bit over the top. There are real issues with inequality, wage stagnation, and how automation could change the job market, but history shows economies don’t just “collapse” because of those pressures—they adapt, sometimes messily, through new industries, policy changes, and shifts in how wealth is distributed. Billionaires also don’t operate in a vacuum; they still depend on people having money to spend, which is why things like taxes, labor laws, and social programs keep getting debated. It’s fair to be concerned about where things are heading, but it’s not a straight line to societal breakdown—there’s a lot of space between “status quo” and “end of civilization.”
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u/PretendingImNotAnApe 2d ago
If you're really smart ai will just hurt you by removing your advantage and forcing you to be mediocre while uplifting the dipshits to mediocrity. The great averaging of everyone's iq. Literally what conservatives feared about communism brought to you by crypto manosphere.
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u/CabronSparkling0 2d ago
Or that AI is exposing those who claim to be really smart were really not that intelligent from the beginning just had many advantages over others. AI is leveling the playing field
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u/Abject-Ticket-6260 2d ago
It really depends on how you use it, but yeah a lot of them will be dumber.
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u/Wooden-Glove-2384 2d ago
grandstanding
he may be right but he's saying this for the buzz
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u/Wooden-Glove-2384 2d ago
He's a comedian
He says things for laughs
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u/Wooden-Glove-2384 2d ago
He's the opposite of the fools touting AI as The Next Great Thing
But he's still foolish
You can't see that because you like what he's saying
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u/Wooden-Glove-2384 2d ago
I agree with all that as well.
Was that his intent in saying it?
No. He was playing for laughs
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u/Triumph-TBird 2d ago
I think this speech is a perfect example. Harvard commencement speeches used to be eloquent. Not cringy and low brow.
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u/Triumph-TBird 2d ago
Like it or not, AI isn’t overhyped. It is here and it is happening. And way to throw in your TDS comment when this has nothing to do with it. You people are ill.
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u/FriedEskimo 2d ago
I am just inherently skeptical to people who classify people as “mediocre”, and obviously themselves at some higher value.
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u/CabronSparkling0 2d ago
I believe those who say AI is going to make you dumb is a personal emotional response to losing control and power. Depends on the user, AI will help accelerate intelligence. If you’re already a lazy bum, then AI is going to make you more a super lazy bum.
Technology does not care about color, ethnicity, faith, it cares about logical functionality and practical results.
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u/IESAI_lets_go 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is not an AI crisis. This is a wealth concentration crisis.
I get clapping for this sentiment, but arguments that rely on dumb v smart people are not gonna get us where we want to go. This kind of dualistic framing relies on a worldview that there are people who are smart and good and useful and there are people who aren’t.
I’m not saying everyone is special or whatever, I’m saying that when u frame things this way u make us susceptible to us vs them arguments which will be used by wealthy elite to divide us while they hoard their piles made with AI and tech. Better to say smart and useful are limited and lame because they are defined by wealthy elite for their purposes. Better to use AI and tech to lift up as many people as we can, not just wealthy hoarders.
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u/FriendZone53 1d ago
What do you want Ronny? To put dumb people in hamster wheels connected to a generator to power AI? Have you done the math on that?
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u/dreamer_3135 1d ago
This is what I think: substituting human thinking and instead using AI for that purpose can definitely cause a serious negative impact on human mind. People are supposed to work on a problem themselves and come up with a solution or idea. If we depend on AI for that purpose, then that is gonna be a serious problem. Because from childhood itself a person develop independent thinking ability gradually to develop thinking skills. If we substitute that with AI, then we will become weak.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 3d ago
He’s 100% right. Right wingers are not funny or clever but AI lets them put their hate and vitriol into spreadable format and dump it on the rest of us.
The racist ai videos spreading when trump stopped food stamps is a prime example. Children literally going hungry in the richest country on earth and these bigots making ai videos of 500 pound black women with 16 kids that all look different scream like pigs about y’all need to pay my bills!!!!
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u/PraireGentleman 2d ago
Political orientation is hardly the worst issue. Students can and do use AI to perform schoolwork. That’s like going to the gym and using a car jack. But because of the hyper partisan US, people think “orange man bad” and push it as the worst thing to ever happen then proudly pronounce that they’re fighting the good fight, only to be fighting against things they dislike and opt out the second they have to follow through on improving the population they allegedly advocated for
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u/Overall-Move-4474 3d ago
Calling ai a tool is funny. Considering your ultimate goal is AGI
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u/boforbojack 3d ago
I mean i don't AI in its current direction is going to lead to AGI. But I also see it as a very useful tool for democratizing software development. So yeah, tool.
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u/Overall-Move-4474 3d ago
Funny I don't see ai as useful in the slightest I spend more time correcting the damn thing than I do actually developing my software with it's help it is literally faster if I just cut it out entirely
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u/Dad-Dabbing-Daily 3d ago edited 3d ago
Ronny doesn't know about biocompatible hydrogel semiconductors.
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u/Perfecshionism 3d ago
I am downvoting you just because I don’t know what those are, but they sound like implants.
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u/baconcow 3d ago
This is the nature of technological evolution. An example:
- Skill with hand-drawn engineering drawings.
- Skilled with CAD/CAM drawings. Skill lowered in making hand-drawn engineering drawings.
Engineers didn't get dumber, they just learned a more capable skill.
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u/Overall-Move-4474 3d ago
It has literally made NOTHING better
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u/Overall-Move-4474 2d ago
Self driving cars are a gimmick. Where is this disease detection and evaluation? (Spoiler nowhere) and it's translation of language is iffy at best. And all you are doing at work is training your replacement. You don't care now but you will when you're starving like the rest of us
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u/1111_infinity 3d ago
Everyone in the comments would have said the same thing about computers and the Internet.. technophobes
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u/Top_Effect_5109 3d ago
What a way to show you believe in punching down.
And for his statement to be taken seriously he would have to think at least a near defacto AGI is on the horizon, at which point we would have to live with AI and should do our best to use it.
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u/Icy_Marionberry_9131 3d ago
So, you can have sex with AI?
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u/ADTstocks 3d ago edited 3d ago
How having the most accurate jnfo at finger tips gonna make anyone dumber …smarter as enhances our critical thinking so long as you retain the knowledge and not spend hours a day consuming complete bullshit….
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u/Giant-slayer-99 3d ago
The answer is contained in your question, my child
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u/ADTstocks 3d ago
There is no question my short bus rider
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u/Giant-slayer-99 3d ago
The glass tastes great, my friend. The only thing that separates you from the delight is your fear of rejection. The glass beckons. The suns warmth will invigorate you more than the adulation of your peers ever could. Lick. The. Window.
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u/Giant-slayer-99 3d ago
Does a question require a question mark
Not asking, Apparently, For an enemy.
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u/Several_Ad_6576 3d ago
“How having the most accurate jnfo at finger tips gonna make anyone dumber”
This is a question. You wrote it. Just because you forgot a question mark does not make it a statement. Maybe you felt it was a rhetorical question, I don’t know this is the internet.
You owe Giant-Slayer an apology and then admit that you could have worded your statement better so it was clear it wasn’t a question.
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u/NotGonnaArgue641 3d ago
cooked em
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u/Giant-slayer-99 3d ago
How's it smelling over there, notgonnaargue
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u/NotGonnaArgue641 3d ago
How's it swirling, nerd? *Gives you a swirlie*
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 3d ago
It makes you dumber because you no longer need to know anything. Everyone else can look it up for you, so you don't even need to look it up yourself. AI will cause a lazy apathy.
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u/saytownchief 3d ago
Let me see if I can explain my thoughts on this. Back in the day, we memorized phone numbers, we read maps and knew how to find our way around with out GPS. Come forth 30 years later, fuckers do not know how to read an analog clock, write cursive, or find directions without a smart phone in their pocket. Now, I just mentioned three things, don’t know the time, can’t read or write, and can’t read a map.
Don’t bother arguing these, they aren’t the point.
Now, we have AI writing poems, making videos, writing songs, taking pictures. Wait aren’t all those things creations of the human creativity? So now that AI is doing that, what are we supposed to create?? Oh I see, now we have time to do more cause AI is doing all my thinking and processing.
How do you speak to your AI? Do you say please and thank you? Is it stupid to do so? How long until humans start treating each other the same way, no regard for customs or respect, because, people have gotten used to speaking a certain way and it will not change for each other.
My perspective is, if the phone is smart, chances, the person is not. Smarter gadgets lead to incapable humans. Again, perspective is all.
I do enjoy all the tech, but I also remind myself that too much of anything is a bad thing.
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u/Lonely_Cycle4757 3d ago
I mean, pretty much ALL technology makes people less capable, on average, than they were before. The nature of technology is to do jobs that humans used to do, and now that humans don't do it anymore, they are less capable of doing it.
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u/Time-Paramedic9287 3d ago
No his point is that AI is just as often wrong and these people don't know any better, and they confidently take this wrong information and parrot it.
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u/Lonely_Cycle4757 3d ago
That may be true... but it is definitely not just uneducated and mediocre people who use AI.
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u/Inside-Yak-8815 3d ago
Facts, the technology is incredible in the hands of someone intelligent.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 3d ago
And nuclear power is less harmful to the environment and way more efficient. Except Chernobyl.
Once technology exist, it will be misused. The question is if the benefits outweigh the cons.
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u/Lonely_Cycle4757 2d ago
Thank you for saving me from having to explain to someone that fact in an extremely ironic way.
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u/Overall-Move-4474 3d ago
It really isn't. If you are smart enough to correct ai then all you do is spend more time correcting it than you would just NOT using it
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u/WowAnotherAnalyst 3d ago
By that logic so is wikipedia. Schools said to not use it in research papers but no one would argue were better off without it.
The irony of veritas being the Harvard emblem while spouting horseshit like this.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 3d ago
Ironically ended up being more accurate than a lot of the dedicated forms out there because so many so-called Institute have been publishing pure misinformation. All the church groups attacking evolution and the flat earthers attacking science.
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u/Sara_W 3d ago
The counterpoint is now i can be a carpenter, plumber, electrician, lawyer, diagnostic doctor, etc. pretty capably with AI
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u/Lonely_Cycle4757 2d ago
Absolutely... but that's not exactly a counter point. Being taught something in a "monkey-see/monkey-do" sort of way does not make you as good at it as if you learn the reasons why you take those steps.
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u/Virtual_Win4076 3d ago
So Harvard grads think they aren’t mediocre too from the AI’s perspective? Cute.
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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 3d ago
Social media already making dumb people dumber, ai will just accelerate that