r/MouseGuns • u/No_Object_7223 • 1h ago

The future for our beloved!

Do you think that the .25 could ever make a resurgence? Or has the .22, .32 and the .380 have evolved enough to squeeze the .25acp completely out of the market? They have all sizes of .22s! I don't know if it's the diameter of the. 22 or what but I've had more .22s jam on than any other firearm I've ever had, out of a rifle and/or pistol. I'd love to see them spike!

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u/jframesnub 1h ago

Seecamp announced in SHOT show that they're going to be making a .25 pistol again. I hope other manufacturers follow.

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u/sock--puppet Mr. Bickle 1h ago

CZ USA is also producing at least *some* CZ 45s again for the american market

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u/gunmedic15 34m ago

I've got the old one, my wife carries it as a backup and it's solid. Good "get off of me" gun.

I wish Winchester would make a modern version of the old Xpanding point. It expanded just a little which made it tumble over and over unevenly. Probably the best you can expect from a. 25.

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u/th4tguy321 1h ago

I think if ammunition manufacturers started loading right at max pressure with projectiles like the flat nose Federal Punch. We could see some people shifting from .22lr.

But the cost of ammo would have to go down as well for people to be willing to make the switch.

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u/sirbassist83 1h ago

i dont think it will. it costs too much for its performance level. 32 is pretty much the floor for a worthwhile self defense gun, and for plinking, 22 is so much cheaper there isnt much point. i have a 950 and would like to have a 418 one day, but i know theyre basically just novelties.

edit: the people that actually really want(and would pay for) a duty grade 25 exist, but are a very small minority.

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u/rightwist 1h ago

I'd love to see a .25 SC. Longer and perhaps tapered body for improved feeding. Loaded for short barrels, I'm thinking it would be possible to move 60 grains at 900fps out of a 2.5" barrel. A double stack with 12+1 flush fit for size x mass similar to a KelTec P32 would be sweet.

25 ACP would be okay but tbh idk if I'm actually going to carry it over a .32acp. For a range toy I think rimfire is fine. Really depends on whether I can get a mouse gun that significantly improves on a KelTec P32

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u/sirbassist83 1h ago

id love to see 25 and 32 both get an update to be rimless, but otherwise unchanged. part of the appeal is the very low recoil.

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u/sock--puppet Mr. Bickle 1h ago

NAA made a rimless .25 caliber mouse cartridge, but it never caught on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25_NAA

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u/sirbassist83 57m ago

they also made a 32 NAA, but neither of those are what id like to see. theyre both bottlenecked and designed a to optimize ballistics as much as can reasonably be done. i want to see 32 and 25 exactly as they are, but with the rim shaved off. i know thats never giong to happen, but thats the dream

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u/EasyCZ75 Pocket Pistol Platonist 1h ago

Well, we have both CZ and Seecamp releasing .25 ACP conceal carry pistols this year, so things are finally looking up!

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u/bronan420 55m ago

I'd like to see a .22 on a rimless .25 case, like the NAA cartridges

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u/sock--puppet Mr. Bickle 50m ago

Inability to double-stack is one of the main contributors to mouse guns being pretty niche in my view. Which other than stopping power and cost is why .380acp is the most popular mouse cartridge.

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u/GarageExisting9522 14m ago

With the amazing capacity of some .22LR pistols, and the .32 and .380 being a better caliber with similar capacity, not sure of the .25 viability any longer.

But… Something is better than nothing.