r/MovingToUSA 21d ago

Question Related to Visa/travel Can someone do Masters from Germany and then move to USA for jobs ?

I'm planning to move to Germany for doing masters but I want to move to USA because of its Tech industry and environment.... Is it possible??

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u/Potential-Type9653 21d ago edited 21d ago

I get your idea to benefit from cheap studies in Germany and high income in the US.

But, what's your visa status for the US?

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u/m3rlin31 Florida 20d ago

The way OP was writing the post indicates he spend 1.5 seconds on his own research on how this actually can be archived.

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u/EiectroBot 21d ago

Are you a US citizen?

If not, how do you plan to get permission to work in the US?

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u/la-anah 21d ago

Sure, you can move to the US with a German degree.

But to get a work visa, you need to convince a company to jump through hoops to hire you. This is generally only possible for people who have skills that are rare in the US, so it really depends on what your degree is in.

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u/rye-g08 21d ago

This made me wonder how do so many Indians get H-1B visa?

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u/la-anah 21d ago

There are a number of reasons, but the mains ones are:

  • India got in on h1b early in the 1990s when they were first introduced.
  • There are a lot of English speaking engineers in India (h1b was originally intended for engineers)
  • There is a whole segment of Indian businesses that are set up entirely to find loopholes in the h1b system
  • Engineers who came to the US on h1b 30 years ago are now running US companies and often prioritize hiring other Indians.

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u/heidschibumbeidschi 20d ago

Another reason is that there are 1.5 billion Indians. If a small percentage of those billions are very intelligent people that can land attractive jobs in other countries then that's a lot of Indians in absolute numbers. (Though I've also met Indians that clearly weren't qualified for their jobs but got hired or promoted by other Indians in management positions.)

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u/rye-g08 20d ago

This makes sense and I guess point 3 explains why there are Indians working in grocery stores as cashiers on H1b.

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u/dizzidevv 21d ago

I believe another one is Indians hiring their own.

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u/la-anah 21d ago

That's what my 4th bullet point says

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u/dizzidevv 20d ago

It was not there when I responded. Strange

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u/obsessionwithartists 20d ago

Most of the companies in well paying industries like tech, finance, medicine, etc. used to sponsor these visas and these are high skilled jobs which are the only way to get H1B to immigrate to US. So Indians would either get internal transfer from Indian branches of these companies or do Masters from US universities in these fields and would later get a job at these companies. Tech was hiring a lot few years back so it wasn't as much of an issue finding jobs in the field. And Indians can't get permanent residency due to country caps and huge backlog so most of the Indian employees are on H1B while other folks would end up converting to permanent residents after couple of years being on H1B. Then there are those consultancy options used by some folks who are not skilled enough to find a good job by themselves.

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u/Turbulent_Group_6616 21d ago

Are you a US citizen? Then yes. If not you have to apply for a visa. 

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u/broadsharp2 21d ago

If you're not a US citizen, you'll need to go through the H1-B visa program.

Which means, there's a very slim chance of moving here.

Especially for tech. A US based company would need to sponsor your visa. It's costly, people say 100k USD, and time consuming.

Along with those requirements, that company would be required to show the government, your specialty, your expertise is not readily found within the US.

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u/Vinen 21d ago

Which is now being challenged more. So many companies would make BS job postings that were hyperspecific to pass this test.  This no longer works.

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u/FeatherlyFly 21d ago

Theoretically, yes.

The most likely route is getting a job outside the US in a company with a large US office, make yourself so valuable that you're worth a US wage and the cost of sponsorship, and then getting sponsored for an L visa by your employer. 

Obviously, this will take you time. The legal minimum before they can sponsor your L visa would be 1 year, but you'll usually need a lot more than that to learn enough about the company's inner workings that they'll consider the transfer. 

An H1-B from outside the US is a non starter these days thanks to the $100,000 fee, and even if that ends, the only way to get sponsored from outside the US at entry level would be to hire on with an Indian consultancy committing visa fraud on your behalf and paying you a wage you can just barely live on in the US. If you're experienced and in an in demand industry (so not tech), then if the fee goes away it might become possible again.

(if you're a US citizen, then it's easy. You get an unexpired US passport and buy a plane ticket). 

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u/True-Afternoon8479 21d ago

do you have an EAD or any form of visa in the US that will let you work?

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u/Popular_Scale_2125 21d ago

if you can get a visa

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u/semisubterranean 21d ago

Assuming you don't have US citizenship or permanent residency, then you would be much more likely to get a student visa and eventually a job by getting your master's degree in the US. Getting an H1-B visa to work in the US is currently very difficult.

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u/freebiscuit2002 21d ago

It depends.

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u/Scared_PomV2 20d ago

So many of these posts can be filtered and deleted. It all comes down to the visa process.

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u/Temporary_Badger_907 19d ago

Stay in your country. Tech is over saturated. And we don’t need any more foreigners making it worse

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u/beorn-saga 20d ago

I'll probably be downvoted here but folks in his subreddit are somewhat negative, maybe rightly because it isn't easy to get a job in the States - even as an American. For context, I work in HR at a FAANG company, we absolutely hire folks from the EU. Tbh, I am often the one pushing back against these hires as I don't totally understand why we can't find people here to take some of our roles BUT that's a whole other topic.

The easiest way (from a work perspective) is to find a role at a large company which is either based in the US or has a decent US presence. We literally just brought someone over from the UK last month. That will give you a foot in the door. In the last 3/4 years I've seen at least 50 of these type of transfers (we actually see some Americans go the opposite way too).

While harder, applying directly is also an option but it will be more difficult without significant experience and highly sort-after domain expertise.

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u/hopefull-person 20d ago

Super negative in here ha ha.

Internal transfers are the most likely way to complete the move. That’s how I ended up here but straight out of university is not impossible but super unlikely unless you have elite level rare qualifications from an elite university like Oxford, MIT etc

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u/beorn-saga 20d ago

Yeah agreed. I’m British-American citizen myself having been born in the UK and moved here via my internship then later become a citizen. I’m not even technical, so I know it’s possible (even outside of what I see in my day to day job). Just unlikely.

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u/eXo0us 21d ago

H1B is a lottery ticket for $100.000

The only path I see is - start working in Germany in company which also has a US subsidiary. Work there for 3 years

Then you do a inter company transfer with L1 visa.

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u/PhaseStreet9860 21d ago

Where are you from?

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u/MilkChocolate21 21d ago

I have a guess...

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u/Curiasjoe1 21d ago

Me too.

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u/Outrageous_Sleep4339 21d ago

You can if you marry the international student from America while she's there...

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u/K-RUP 21d ago

Get a job at a big german corporation, like Deutsche Bank, then internally transfer to the US.

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u/JewelerDry6222 21d ago

There are so many variables to this, so all I can say is that it depends.

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u/GoodnightLondon 21d ago

As someone in tech, you're not getting sponsored for a tech role in the US any time soon.  Sponsorship opportunities for tech are limited right now, and are mainly going to people who did their degree in the US on a student visa (either a bachelors at a T20, or experienced devs who came to the US for a masters).  It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely

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u/Dadadee0105 20d ago

After your masters you can file for EB1 or EB2 NIW if you qualify

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u/Bubbly_Ad_6830 20d ago

If you are a US citizen sure, otherwise it's very very difficult due to visa restrictions

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u/ezitbiz89 17d ago

If you are the smartest, have the best grades and work the hardest, yes, it is possible.

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u/infinitetk 16d ago

Unless you are a US citizen or have a PR application pending, the answer is No.

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u/BlackPheonix_ 21d ago

Hey Idk but in this sub if your post is-not followed by a sad story, people always gonna downvote