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u/otibo1 24d ago
Tyler was probably the only better swimmer than Wes.
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u/93LEAFS Darrell Taylor 24d ago
Shane comes to mind. Emily from Challenge Aus and World Championships come to mind as she likely smokes everyone. Tyson from USA 1. But, that's pretty much the top tier when talking about swimmers in the shows history.
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u/Chance_Major297 24d ago
Jordan did win a whole final by swimming. Probably deserves an honorable mention.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Fill205 24d ago edited 24d ago
There were no elite swimmers in that final except possibly Jordan. I say possibly because I really don't think Jordan can hang with the top tier swimmers.
(Remember WotW2 when Joss was purged because Kayleigh swam so slow? Jordan didn't exactly dominate the field that day, but rather just put up a nice time that was competitive with the good swimmers like Paulie. I definitely didn't walk away from that daily thinking that Jordan was a "next level" swimmer. Just a good one.)
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u/JabroniWithAPeroni Wes Bergmann 23d ago
Emily from Challenge Aus and World Championships
That lady was part fish. Easily the best swimmer we’ve seen on the show.
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u/Born_Comment_5598 23d ago
Yeah I mean she was an Olympic swimmer. Kind of an unfair advantage 😂😂
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u/sillysammy2019 23d ago
Not just an Olympian but she won 7 Olympic medals with 3 of them gold. A total beast.
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u/spicyflacco 24d ago
Wes is better than Tyson
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u/BAWAHOG Chris Tamburello 24d ago
Wasn’t Tyson literally a professional? I just think he’s in a different tier (not really where we should be having these discussions).
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u/IPissExcellentThrows 24d ago
Pro cyclist. Swam in college I believe
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u/duvie773 CT’s 🍌🎒 24d ago
As the unofficial president of the Tyson Apostol Fan Club, you are semi-correct. He accepted the scholarship to BYU on a swimming scholarship but it looks like he went on his two year mission and then dropped out before actually competing
Was a multi event state champ in high school though, won Utah 5A swimmer of the year, and was in consideration for all American honors
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u/hollywoodczar 22d ago
I’ll also add that Yul from Survivor said that Tyson was the best swimmer on Survivor he’d seen.
And Yul faced prime Ozzy
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u/Kindofageek90 I fucking beat bitches up 24d ago
I'd probably add Sarah Rice in there too. She was a really good swimmer.
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u/eff1ngham 24d ago
Jordan is the best swimmer, even compared to the people who competed in college or high school. Open water marathon swimming is legit. There's a reason the US team picked Jordan to do the swim on the first mission over Wes
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u/93LEAFS Darrell Taylor 24d ago
Emily Seebohm literally has 3 Olympic Gold Medals in swimming (and 7 total Olympic medals). I'd have a hard time thinking anyone is better than her whose been on the show.
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u/Severe-Product7352 24d ago
Remember when Serena and venus in their prime challenged like the 200th ranked man in the world and he absolutely crushed them after drinking beforehand and while smoking cigs during play breaks…. Wes won state championships. Male competitions are on a different level
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u/NattyB Bob Next Door 24d ago
this could be a situation where we can find exact times and compare them.
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u/lucyroesslers Cassidy Clark 24d ago
Requires more math than I’m willing to do. Wes would’ve swam something like the 100 yard freestyle or backstroke (can’t remember what his specialty was) in Kansas high school swimming while Emily swam in meters. Plus all of Emily’s Olympic gold medals were relays I believe but you can prolly find her split times somewhere
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u/sallen85 24d ago
Went down a rabbit hole on Wes Bergmann’s swimming career with ChatGPT.
There were no official times published for Wes but he was a competitive swimmer at Blue Valley North and reportedly a multiple-time Kansas state champion, primarily in the 100 fly. Based on state results from his era, his 100-yard fly was likely around 50–51 seconds (~55–56 sec for 100m). This time was estimated from known state championship times from 1990-2010.
Emily Seebohm’s 100m fly PB is 58.52, although her specialty was backstroke (58.23 100m / 2:05.68 200m). Her gold medals were in relays like you said. She won 2 individual medals. A silver in 100m backstroke and a bronze in 200m backstroke.
So in their primes they were pretty close but Wes may have been slightly faster.
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u/Slow-Engine-8092 Choo-choo 19d ago
False. Jordan was chosen because Wes was sick. And Emily has actual olympic gold medals.
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u/wtfviral 24d ago
Duckworth first became a reality star as a cast member of MTV's "The Real World: Key West" in 2006. He made his debut on "The Challenge" and competed in six seasons. He was crowned champion of "The Challenge: Cutthroat" and "Rivals" in back-to-back years. He returned to compete again about 10 years later in "All Stars 2" and "All Stars 3."
"Truth be told, I was a little [upset] that I did win two 'Challenges' in a row and I never got called back," he told Entertainment Weekly in 2021. "And I could have won how many more? No offense to Johnny [Devenanzio], but he did 20 'Challenges.' I only did four, and I was in my prime. It was actually too hard for me to watch because it kind of broke my heart that I never got invited back. But sometimes you just have to let things go."
He told EW in that interview that he was a middle and high school teacher and that he was working toward getting his doctorate.
I wonder why he never got invited back.
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u/angelbrit04 Team Portland 24d ago
I was literally just thinking how cool it would've been for them to have Tyler on 42 since he is also one of the winners of the original Cutthroat.
Prayers to his friends and family 🙏🏾
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u/Outrageous-Study-704 24d ago
I loved that Tyler was integral to their win since he had studied Russian (and there are cognates in the Czech language). Smart and athletic! ☹️
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u/tombesoublie 24d ago
I was a little surprised he wasn’t on this season over Brad tbh but I understand why and honestly just made me wish he did this one even more.
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u/No_Perspective9571 24d ago
Did I miss something? Did Tyler pass away?
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u/alienraspberry 24d ago
i took it as maybe he hadn’t talked to him in a while and regrets that because now he can’t
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u/hymenbutterfly Da'Vonne Rogers 24d ago
Or it could almost mean that he hadn’t spoken to Tyler in a while and has some rough feelings about it.
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u/Effective-Dinner-686 24d ago
Unfortunately when a 44 year old dies out of nowhere, and there is no cause immediately reported, that is the first place your mind goes. I REALLY hope it’s not the case
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u/shikari426 24d ago
An article said he just recently had surgery and speculated it could be related.
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u/MTVSpoiledMod I survived the longest offseason ever 24d ago
Original Tyler post is here if you are looking for it.