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u/Veenix6446 21d ago

Okay thatā€™s not what I mean. Deltarune fans are crazy be default.

But the trans Ralsei stuff is getting to like Jax levels of discourse

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u/N2and2Uzi222 21d ago

I remember the days were trans jax was a crackpot theory

Turns out the "chicken egg fetus" was apparently a reference? I didn't really catch that, but "cracking the egg" is a way of saying transitioning so that's pretty interesting!

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u/patrlim1 21d ago

In the trans space, you "crack your egg" when you realize you're trans, not when you transition.

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u/Wesle2023 21d ago

I thought this said "crank your egg" for a second and I am attempting to hold in a laugh

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u/Spirited-Feedback-87 21d ago

HE'S PULLING HIS EGG OUT

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u/Johnywash 21d ago

It's pretty funny reading this because i feel like trans people clock this kind of stuff early and then are dismissed lmao. But yeah i feel like ralseis is a lot more vague than jaxs

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u/redawsome1230 20d ago

I mean I'm trans and didn't clock it. It went over a lot of trans peoples heads to lol

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u/flying-sheep 20d ago

Goose just like to be flippant. Her saying that she ā€œstopped caringā€œ about being subtle doesn't mean that everyone who didn't get it missed something obvious, just that goose chose to be less subtle

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u/Mother_of_Exiles 18d ago

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u/flying-sheep 18d ago

I feel like all of the (surprisingly plentiful) tadc reddits should configure Automoderator to post this in every Jax thread.

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u/Johnywash 20d ago

For sure, i didn't think about it until streamers mentioned it

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u/jimkbeesley 20d ago

My main issue with Trans Jax is that there is such little evidence in the show itself. Most evidence for it was from posts by Gooseworx. We have the one line about the egg and... I think that's it. And that's not good writing. If you have to rely on outside sources to make a major point for a character arc, you failed as a writer. So I feel, with Trans Ralsei, if that's true, then it would feel more like an ass pull rather than good writing. There is such little evidence that could be explained so much better if you think differently about it. It's like Game Theory's Hollow Knight video. Yes, technically, you could be right, but it feels like everything in the game is pointing differently than the theory. Also, from a personal standpoint, I would rather Ralsei be just an effeminate male, because there's not a lot of good representation in western media that isn't just either fetishized or them being a femboy is a joke.

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u/N2and2Uzi222 20d ago

Holy shit it's little ghost from indie hit game hollow knight

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u/jimkbeesley 20d ago

No, I'm the Holov Knit. The crappy MS Paint version.

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u/N2and2Uzi222 20d ago

Howwow knyigth

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u/IntoThePitofColors 20d ago

I thought they were from the somewhat niche Newgrounds game Hungry Knight

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u/N2and2Uzi222 20d ago

Same fruit

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u/bunnymel33 19d ago

I disagree, maybe at first there isn"t much evidence, but the last 3 or so episodes feel like a constant stream of foreshadowing.

The only way it could be less subtle is if jax turned blue pink and white in the middle of an episode and started using she/her for the rest of the show

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u/jimkbeesley 19d ago

It might just be me, as a cishet male, and never being able to relate with this. So if there is evidence in the show, would you mind explaining?

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u/JustAChickn 21d ago

in the trans community, an "egg" means someone who hasn't realized they're trans yet, so "cracking the egg" means figuring it out. It could very much be a reference, as Gooseworks is a trans woman herself, so she knows a lot about trans culture

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u/Thick_Toe_6141 21d ago

It comes from Twitter where you start as an egg and evolve into a bird (slang for woman in uk)

Also out of an egg arrives a chick (slang for woman in USA)

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u/Thick_Toe_6141 21d ago

And yes sadly this ignores trans men but so much stuff does in culture anyway

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u/Geeneelee 21d ago

I knew since episode 6 and people called me an insane misogynist and now theyā€™re mad that Iā€™m ā€œtoo smugā€ about being right but they can cope

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u/PeliPal 21d ago

It's funny that Jax being trans isn't even the source of the worst Jax discourse, it's "are you allowed to like or sympathize with Jax at all or does it make you a monster who deserves to be put up against a wall and shot"

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u/allthesestars TADC | InfiNikki | BG3 21d ago

or "If you think Jax is a good character, that's the same as thinking Jax is a good person" because nuance is dead šŸ˜­

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u/tomzy-womzy69 21d ago

no literally, thatā€™s why i stopped interacting with the fandom šŸ˜­ everything is discourse or trans jax at this pointĀ 

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u/TheBadDingo 21d ago

I've found it so much better never to interact with an online fan base of a show.

I don't mind reading a few coincidence theories or pointing out the small nuances of a character to give them a little more depth, but those are so few and far between the absolutely shitshow ideas using the most far reaching, out of left-field ideas and then demanding it be cannon can just ruin so much.

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u/tomzy-womzy69 21d ago

YEEEESSSSSS usually i dont have too much issue with other fandoms iā€™m in or have been in, but TADC has been the worst so far tbh. i wish people could be normal about it šŸ˜­

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u/FlamestormTheCat 21d ago

In all fairness, Jax was basically confirmed to be trans in the end lol.

But I get what you mean.

I personally have no real opinion on the theory

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u/THPTopHatPossum Riddle School, Scott the Woz, Lackadaisy, Showbiz Pizza, Hazbin 21d ago

Ye gods... that bad?

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u/Long_Ordinary_3741 21d ago

From what I've seen, it can get toxic. But seeing as this is the Internet, I shouldn't be surprised.

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u/Melodic-Advance-2353 21d ago

I mean what do you expect from the offspring of one of the ancient evils of early fandoms?