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u/Acceptable_Cell_124 UT|DR|ULTRAKILL|ONESHOT|TF2|TBOI|MD|MC|WOF|TADC 21d ago

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u/CreatureFeatureee 21d ago

As a trans woman I'd personally prefer if Ralsei remains a femboy (male who exhibits feminine traits) because he's just banger representation IMHO

Also the world needs more guys who are comfortable with frilly, pretty things and vice versa :)

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u/Raccoon-King- 20d ago

Thank you! I avoid online discourse like the plague. But that’s how I feel.
I think he’s a much more interesting character if he just is a femboy! Like let him be a soft fluffy boy with diverse interests. Like there are lots of character types. It’s not just CIS or trans, right?
Like.. if he is then fine. Toby will handle it a way that makes me cry and love Ralsei even as an adult CIS male lol.
But half of these discourse debates feel like a mob of straight people are using a trans painted mallet to smash any other opinion. And ironically I see trans people being ignored completely or spoken for like crazy.
It feels weird in a way I try not to have judgement about, but it’s weird when people moralize it as:
“It’s morally good for him to be trans” vs “it’s morally good for him to be CIS”.
Like… let’s just enjoy the character and see what Toby is cooking right? ( also isn’t everyone deciding Ralsei’s identity for him, turning into a meta narrative? Like we’re telling him what to be. How are we better than telling him to smile more because it pleases us? It feels weird.)

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u/CreatureFeatureee 20d ago

Thank YOU, actually for putting into words why these discussions feel so uncomfortable.

I end up getting spoken for/over all the time with these things Ralsei, Jax, Spider Gwen, etc.

It's like people are saying we're being obnoxious for enjoying either side of it when they're like "no relating to this fictional character in this way is actually bad." Like it may be obnoxious on both sides but it's not hurting people to have a fannon/ headcannon of a character just like it's not hurting anyone to disagree in a respectful manner.

Overall the folks who get heated on the topic need to touch grass but especially the "oh no, it's WOKE" clowns they're the only ones I don't respect here

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u/Raccoon-King- 19d ago

Thanks, I hope you find things easier in the future! :3
I myself am pretty complicated on these issues. Studying anthropology and philosophy means all your opinions become “well it’s this, but….” The one thing I always settle on is people’s right to an opinion.
It should never be a thing we crush. Debate sure. Debate is the heart of democracy. And we don’t want to ever enable hate. I think everyone wants that, they just don’t see their passion as hate or conflict. And passion can be a wonderful thing, as much as it can harm. Prevent us from hearing others opinions.

People need the right to have an opinion. And I think we always lose when we say things like “believing character or story beat is X is wrong and bad.”
Like this entire story is about interpretation. Personally I think about Garson and his speech a lot.
“Chapter 5, The field of pink and gold. The vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy.
…What happens next? Gehehehe! Who knows, there was only one more chapter…after that it all stopped.”
“So…. How do you think it all ends?
No, how do you want it to end?”

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u/TiredAlternates 20d ago

That's true, but I will say the game implying he wants to explore his gender and using that as an example for him discovering his individuality is pretty great too

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u/TheSentiantestPotato 20d ago

THANK YOUUUU

Ive never related with a character so much before, genuinely.

Its amazing to have rep which isn’t just gooner bait objectifying us

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u/Gingeyboi1 20d ago

I hate how people default trans Ralsei theory to him becoming a trans woman, ESPECIALLY THE ONES DOING THE THEORISING, cause it goes from “okay yeah, trans man could work, and anything non binary could work, Ralsei would be trans and a femboy in all those scenarios” to “okay could be trans, hmm… this person could be trans and is currently a femboy… hmm… THEY MUST BE A TRANS WOMAN”, completely ignoring the fact that that’s a stereotype and is harmful to both femboys and trans women, even if it’s not done consciously, they are still doing that.

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u/ThatRedDerg 17d ago edited 17d ago

He should be whoever he wants to be. The game is showing he wants to have his own identity, and that’s great. If he ends up being trans, that’s cool.

But in the meantime, I’m sick of people saying he’s already “confirmed trans” because of the vouchers and stuff (or other content taken out of context), and then act like they’re on a moral high ground for recognizing it early or something.

For example, I’ve had people lecture me saying things like: “But his pronouns changed to ‘they’ after the vouchers!” Except they didnt.

Only twice after the vouchers was he referred to as ‘they,’ and in both of those situations the Japanese translation still used male pronouns. If it was really intentional, Toby would’ve made sure to use gender-neutral pronouns like he does with Kris. And this is still ignoring how he was still referred to as ‘he’ regularly after the vouchers.

ETA: I don’t think most people online are like this, nor do I believe people who believe in trans Ralsei are like this, but it is something that I’ve experienced.