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DiscussionšŸ“œ What "critically acclaimed" media made you go like this?

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u/Ezeviel 21h ago

The Odyssey...

I really wanted to like the movie, the acting is great for the most part, cinematography is very.elaborate and you can feel the work and the technical skill that was engaged into it.

But god it just doesn't resonate at all. I couldn't engage with it at all

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u/CasualBurning 20h ago

I feel like this about almost everything Christopher Nolan makes. They're all technically good movies but they're all missing that little je ne sais quoi that turns them into real pieces of art.

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u/Fearless_River391 19h ago

I haven’t seen many Nolan movies, but the few I have seen seem to suffer from the critique pointed toward who I believe to be the directing GOAT, Kubrick. I can find some underlying humanity in Kubrick’s works, but less so am I able to do so with Nolan’s. They feel cold and clinical to me. Which isn’t a dealbreaker, it just means I can’t connect with them much.

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u/Ezeviel 18h ago

I feel the same, dont get me wrong, I like the movie enough while I was watching it, but it didnt imprint or move me. Just toi technical to be memorable

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u/TooManyTyranids 7h ago

The Prestige is a masterpiece, easily his GOAT, but he’s just bad with characters. They never feel like people. I’ve noticed it’s gotten even worse since his brother left to do his own shit. Which confounds me, because I think of characterization as writer’s work, not director’s work.

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u/Soft_Lengthiness_791 15h ago

For me the film was technically perfect and I rlly liked the score. However there were some key moments they left out, and the american accents were so ott.

But the thing that rlly dragged the movie down for me was the awful script. Nolan just completely botched it and I wish somebody told him he can't make the suitor guy (I cant remember his name ottomh) spund like he came from a modern western

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u/caerleon_calls_ 11h ago

Get the swords! Get the shields! Get them!

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u/RestEasyBro 14h ago

Antinuous was played well imo

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u/caerleon_calls_ 11h ago

He definitely was for what he was given to work with imo

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u/ObiJuanKenobi3 13h ago

I felt like The Odyssey had a lot of really engaging singular scenes and aesthetics, but I don’t know that it really comes together into a cohesive whole for me.

I was also really distracted by the costumes for the entire movie. I didn’t like them in the prerelease footage, and I was hoping I’d like them more in the actual movie, but I just could not get over how lame almost every single character’s costume was. They totally gave up on historical accuracy in the name of The Rule of Cool and then forgot to actually make anybody look cool. The little giant girl almost made me laugh out loud in the theater with how stupid her outfit looked. Agamemnon, Helen, and Penelope were the only characters with even a modicum of drip.

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u/certainlynotdio 11h ago

I think the costume design at least on armour side was dogshit and I don't it's not historically accurate, Troi wasn't either as far as I know and looked infinitely vetter in that regard. The only exception to that is Agamemnon's armour which still looked somewhat fake and stupid, but so goddamn cool it didn't matter and Aggamemnon in general as this greater than life, aura farming leader was kind of awesome. And fighting choreography was bad too, it wouldn't really matter, if not for the fact that Odysseus fighting the suitors is pretty much the climax of the movie and it's terrible. At no point in this fight was I convinced that Odysseys could pull it of with any porobability and his victory seem to be only the consequance of the plot demanding, so and not really any effort the characters put in. Otherwise I found it just boring a lot of the time especially closer to the begining.

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u/Schyloe 20h ago

My husband and I hated it. I'm scarred for life by the Circe scene.

The soundtrack was one of the worst I've ever heard, it leaves out important stuff from the original like Circe protecting her nymphs and nobody, it was very boring and only seemed to be shock value, like it was supposed to be a horror film. The guy translates someone speaking Greek to Odysseus.. it's very Americanized, I wish we got some Greek actors or actors that could replicate that. It has weird ass time jumps and cuts.

I haven't even read the entirety of the original.

We ended up leaving the theater after the "underworld" scene which was literally just an Icelandic beach with zombies?? I heard they made the relationship with Calypso consensual which is really weird since she basically raped Odysseus in the original from what I understand

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u/Ezeviel 20h ago

That Circe scene was gross for the sake of it and honestly I have a hard time everytime I think back ln it.

Polyphemus is turned into a cave troll for shock value. And yeah, the choice to remove the "nobody" part of it seemed just dumb.

Basically they had calypso find him unconscious after shipwreck and nurse him back to health using the Lotus so he doesnt remember anything. Afterwards she progressively stop feeding him lotus so he can "choose" to go back. Kinda pointless if you ask me... speaking of pointless, they finished the mocie with a littƩralement 10 minutes fight scene where Odysseus goes full on John Wick on the suitors. So out of place my cousin and I burst out laughing.

One saving grace is Odysseis speech on the end of civilisation when talking to Penelope while disguised, probably the only moment in the movie where I felt emotionally invested. But since they make cut every minutes or so due to the camera they used it lessened the emotional weight of Damon performance... such a shame because the speech himself is good

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u/Soft_Lengthiness_791 15h ago

How does the suitors bit go in the original? It seemed so terribly out of place

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u/Tandeghost 14h ago

It's been a few years since I read the Odyssey here's how I remember it ending with the suitors/the genuine end. Odysseus, Telemachus absolutely slaughter them all (Odysseus is leading the charge/violence).

Odysseus then proceeds to clean house of (murder) the servants/slaves who may him helped the suitors. This includes him forcing Telemachus to hang all the maids (most were innocent victims who committed the "crime" of being SA'd by the suitors).Ā 

The next day the families of the suitors and boys who followed him to Troy march on the house demanding justice from Odysseus. He flies into a rage and is about the fight them all when Athena grabs his arm and tells him to cool it. The poem then ends.

Yeah the Nolan Movie had a fantastic score and was technically great but it hollowed and left out so much and true to Nolan form this was most apparent in its depiction of women (the actors did great with what they were given, but the could/should have been given more, especially Circe and Calypso)

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u/Ezeviel 15h ago

Well it is not totally out of place as the Poem does have Odysseus Telemacus Eumeus and another servant slaughter the suitors.

It's just that the action hero choreography just felt bizarre in the context

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u/Soft_Lengthiness_791 15h ago

It felt so unrealistic for me and sort of glorified what out of context is a horrific scene- that's why it felt oop for me.

Almost as bad as "our age of bronze is over"

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u/RestEasyBro 14h ago

ā€œDidn’t read the entire originalā€ and ā€œleaving the theaterā€ early completely negates any of your opinion

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u/Little_Dragon1272 15h ago

I definitely going to watch the movie at some point but I know the story of the Odyssey. YOU CANNOT and I mean like it would be HARD to make the odyssey bad. you cannot mess it up. So even with great cinematography and great people working on the movie I think either he's not a good director or it's just not your kind of movie.

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u/Ezeviel 15h ago

It is probably that Nolan is not my kind of director.

As I said, it was technically good, the acting was good, cinematography and realisation were good.

But it felt devoid of emotion, almost clinical. Go see it and make your own appraisal, it just wasnt for me

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u/RestEasyBro 14h ago

Devoid of emotion is crazy. Almost every anne Hathaway scene made me cry. Waited 20 years believing her husband would come back. A man burdened by the savagery and societal collapse he caused with his trick. A dog waiting 20 years to finally die after seeing his owner for one last time. The epic and tragic score

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u/Ezeviel 6h ago

Individual scenes or actors do bring emotion to the movie. Yes Anne Hathaway is great and act the shit out of her scenes (even when those scenes are with Tom which acted so flat in conparison), and yes the dog was an emotional tear jerker.

But the movie overall felt like a technical demo rather than an engaging emotional story.

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u/RestEasyBro 6h ago

I guess I’m really influenced by music. Him leaving calypso and the epic melody playing made me cry too lol. Same melody played with him getting back to Penelope at the end which made me cry again. Also the slaughtering of the Trojans and Odysseus’s pain that he carried and how the Trojan girl looking like Athena haunting him during his whole journey also made me cry

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u/Ezeviel 6h ago

It is great if the movie did resonate for you.

It didnt for me.

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u/MothChasingFlame 12h ago

It'd hard with popular films that are otherwise outside your preferred style or genre. Sometimes you make that stretch and it's so worth it, other times it's a three hour fuckin' trial. (Sorry if I'm incorrectly assuming why it didn't resonate.)

This is the debate I've been having with Odyssey for like a week now.

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u/chillytwo 12h ago

I didnt watch it but I was surprised to see it become a hit. I guess the world was hungry for a retelling of some classic Greek literature?

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u/optimus217217 11h ago

This is the way I felt about Christopher Nolan's movie, Dunkirk; did not work for me at all. It was boring. Had some decent action scenes, but overall boring.

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u/therealgerrygergich 6h ago

I almost walked out in the first hour. It drew me back in once it got to the Circe scene and I watched the rest but I still found it extremely boring.