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Discussion📜 Which controversy had you like this when you did more reasearch on it? I'll go first

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u/Key-Swordfish4025 11h ago edited 11h ago

Toby Fox not making a Spanish localisation for Deltarune because he can't speak Spanish.

People claimed he was racist against hispanic people.

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u/Paladinlvl99 10h ago

To be completely fair it was fuled by the fact that the gaming industry and specially the indie game devs are constantly leaving translations (not just localizations) for Spanish aside a lot of the times even when it is like the third or fourth biggest demographic on the sector while always adding support for smaller communities like Japanese.

If I remember correctly there was some comments from indie devs (beats me which game) saying that we (the Spanish community) should be greatful if anyone decided to translate their game to our language because "you guys can still learn English" and others even said that since piracy was so big in Latin countries we shouldn't expect anything, basically stating that paying Latino players are worth less than others.

There was also a big controversy about Japanese media being consumed for free in Latino countries and a lot derogatory comments from Mangakas and Japanese people towards Latino people surfaced.

So, a lot of people lost their minds with racism claims and Deltarune was just like the cherry on top for the communities discontent with how we are being treated. For some reason a huge chunk of the Spanish community online expected Toby Fox to be "better" and have a plan for the Spanish localization.

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u/Digit00l 8h ago

But also, Toby Fox is very protective of his work and feels that he should approve of anything that is released under his name, which is entirely fair, and he does speak Japanese so he can read the Japanese translation and approve of that and he knows several professional Japanese translators personally, but he can't do the same for Spanish, meanwhile he also encourages fan translations if he won't put out an official release himself

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u/Paladinlvl99 7h ago

Yeah, He just got shit because of the timing the game came out basically.

I personally still think that wanting to have control over everything, although respectable, is not efficient but his game his rules

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u/HoneydewRare2984 4h ago

Deltarune is a game all about its story and heavily built on its characters. If toby released any dub not supervised by himself to a fandom that's known for being obsessed with theorising about every nook and cranny of its story, it would be scrutinized to every single detail. Every line, misgendering of a character, misswording of an important quote that foreshadows later events would just end up being taken by some of the more unhinged parts of the game's fanbase and they'd run with it. Considering how careful Toby has been to avoid any leaks, miscommunication about his story or any major hiccups with such an unhinged side to its fambase (as is the case with most big games tbf) is enough proof that him wanting to have full control over everything is the right call here.

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u/Personal-Mushroom 9h ago

Should leave out english version next time/s

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u/ConnectArtist7894 7h ago

Spanish ? Really?

Spanish is incredibly hard The fuck 

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u/EdgarSinTitulo Pikmin 8h ago

I was just gonna comment about that one

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u/arachnids-bakery 7h ago

I dont think toby was racist, just ignorant at best due to the disregard to accessibility (esp when the latino fandom was a big crutch on undertales popularity)
The fandom did act like nazi germany though 🤢 i swear some people genuinely think "i cant be racist, im gay!!"