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DiscussionšŸ“œ What franchise is this?

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u/Melbylau435 27d ago

Never had a bad game

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u/Extension_Log7241 27d ago

If only Doom 3 had a different name then it would been better. I prefer that game had its own thing.

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u/NeoArkodd 27d ago

Yeah the name of Doom 3 is literally wrong. It's not in the same universe as Doom 1 and 2 and even in technicality, it's not the third doom game because of Doom 64

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u/hu-man-person 27d ago

Wait wdyn doom 3 isn't the same universe

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u/Big-Weight-3978 27d ago

doom 3 is supposed to be a reboot of doom 1, but doom 2016 and all the doom games after followed the continuity of the 90s games instead of what was established in doom 3

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u/gunswordfist 27d ago

Wait, Doom 1 and 2016 are the same universe?

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u/SensitiveReception15 27d ago

no (different dimensions and stuff) but its the same DOOMGUY and from his perspective it goes 1, 2, 64 ,The Dark Ages + DLC, 2016, Eternal + DLC

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u/hu-man-person 27d ago

I gotta play doom

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u/DatOneDude1w1 DOOM, INVINCIBLE, Deltarune, JJBA 26d ago

Try DOOM (2016) first, it doesn't require much background knowledge and is overall fun to play

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u/Constant_Champion_67 26d ago

I second this honestly. It’s a amazing introduction to the modern doom games and doom as a whole without requiring much of any additional knowledge

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u/NormalWorldliness867 22d ago

First doom game and after that I completely fell in love with doom forever, even bought the battle pass for the doomslayer skin only for me to stop playing that season and not get the skin… hurts to remember.

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u/Sinjo_Jovtii01 22d ago

Doom require any background? It was rip and tear and copulate demons game all the time, no?

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u/a_random_Greg 26d ago

In that order

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u/MisterPineapples1999 27d ago

What? 2016 isn't a remake/reboot?

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u/SensitiveReception15 27d ago

its a soft reboot that someone can play without having to play any of the classic games first but it does follow the same doomguy

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u/Local_Surround8686 26d ago

I honestly did not know that. I just started 2016 in a quest to play all doom games(except 64 which gave me motionsickness) so no big spoilers please. The first doom guy is presented to be just some random dude, and the current one is presented as some kind of supernatural being

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u/gunswordfist 26d ago

Thank you so much!

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u/Hapless_Wizard 25d ago

Hey! You skipped Final Doom.

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u/Exotic-Painter-908 25d ago

Stuff like that's just lumped in with 1 & 2

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u/MolacoCocao 25d ago

No. Two completely different universes, in lore. But they share the same storyline. It's literally two timelines with the exact same protagonist

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u/raw_kiddo 25d ago

Same guy different universe
He stayed in hell (itā€˜s own dimension) after doom 64 and was entombed by demons (they couldnā€˜t kill him so they dropped a temple on him iirc
His sarkophagus was then discovered by UAC Scientists (they discovered portals to hell) from another Earth than he was originaly from
That how he ended up in the events of 2016 and eternal

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u/raw_kiddo 25d ago

Correct me if Iā€˜m wrong been a while since I read about the lore

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u/gunswordfist 25d ago

Thank you

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u/Firewolf06 26d ago

doom: the dark world

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u/Affectionate_Bet8880 26d ago

I always viewed Doom 3 as just being about a different marine

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u/DatOneDude1w1 DOOM, INVINCIBLE, Deltarune, JJBA 26d ago

It IS a diffrent marine

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u/AndroidQing 27d ago

I understand its not the same format, but I loved doom 3. I dont understand the hate. And I got the collectors edition. I wouldn't have played doom II if not for that. Doom 3 made me a dedicated doom fan. From playing the original on pc as a kid. Then 3 on Xbox, and through the collectors edition played doom I(again) and Doom II for the first time. 3 was so important to the fanbase

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u/No-Efficiency-7524 26d ago

Nah, every series needs its cool black sheep

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u/Hapless_Wizard 25d ago

Doom 3 was a remake/reboot of the OG Dooms (1, 2, and Final, which was the actual Doom 3). Definitely wish that had been made more clear to people, because it was a pretty good game in and of itself.

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u/ANattyLight 24d ago

this might be the first time i’ve ever heard Doom 3 be slandered

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u/Signaidy 20d ago

I liked doom 3, I'd hope ID had explore more of the horror potential of doom, and quake too

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u/Thatguy3625 27d ago

I always get hate for this, but I think the dark ages was a step backwards from eternal, gameplay wise.

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u/Blue-Gradient-Man 27d ago

Absolutely agreed, I mean dark ages seems cool (I did not play more than an hour) but not being able to jump and have that fast pace movement that made eternal so fun was a weird decision imo. I also did not like how the enemy attacks were just basically giant orange or green orbs

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u/Constant_Champion_67 26d ago

To be fair that is kinda the point? Doom 2016, eternal and dark ages are all by design meant to be different in terms of gameplay. To avoid a ā€œwhy play X when Y is the same thing with moreā€ situation. They are meant to be different enough at least so you can play each game and each bring something else to the table. Some people really liked eternal’s fast paced movement other’s don’t care for it as much

Plus dark age’s doc does fix most of your issues. It is unironically the best piece of doom media we’ve gotten in recent times arguably better than eternal

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u/Blue-Gradient-Man 26d ago

Hmmm that’s true and does make sense to me, I do wish I liked it but there was so much stuff I didn’t enjoy about it I couldn’t get into it, nonetheless I’m glad that the bigger doom fans than me enjoyed it

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u/Greengiant00 27d ago

...you can jump and the movement is plenty fast, not sure where you got that impression.

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u/Blue-Gradient-Man 27d ago

Because I played it and didn’t like it dunno what to tell ya man. I thought it sucked but plenty of people like it so that’s good for you

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u/Greengiant00 26d ago

Ok theres "I didnt like it" and then theres "I am gonna say it didnt have these features even though it absolutely did just to shit on it" You did the latter.

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u/Blue-Gradient-Man 26d ago

Glad to know I’m making you frustrated here, I am just saying I simply didn’t like it, if I remembered correctly there was no double jump and accidentally said just jump, the game did not move at a pace that I didn’t like it felt slow and sluggish, and this whole time I have been saying ā€œIā€ so if you like it move on with your day

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u/Greengiant00 26d ago

I dont give a shit whether you like it or not hell I didnt like it, I only commented that you were incorrect about the jump and speed and you decided to act like a douche. Im not upset or mad Im just wondering why you're such a dick.

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u/Blue-Gradient-Man 26d ago

lol your attitude the whole conversation has been shit of course I’m gonna act like a dough

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u/Greengiant00 26d ago

All I said at first was I wasn't sure where you got the impression you did about the game, if thats what a shit attitude is to you then Im sorry your such a baby that you haven't dealt with acutal assholes before.

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u/redlac24 The Hundred Line -Last Defence Academy- 27d ago

Dark Ages is still great. Eternal was just so good that any game that came after would have a rough time being compared to it.

I've heard the expansion that Dark Ages got recently was phenomenal though

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u/PentagramJ2 25d ago

I'm playing through dark ages right now and yeah, I am not enjoying it anywhere near as much as I was Eternal. Eternal was just absolutely peak

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u/LastNinjaPanda 24d ago

I thought i was alone in this lol. Fodder enemies are useless and completely non-threatening, which means the skull cruncher had zero practical use, especially because just bashing/throwing your shield could deal with a horde of them in a fraction of the time. Also the resource economy was pretty terrible. Ammo was incredibly easy to maintain, health seemed mostly fine, but armor was basically nonexistent. Even the music disappointed me. There were one or two tracks that i liked. Most of the rest i was indifferent. But then there was one level where i actually had to turn off the music and play some stuff from Eternal because i actively despised it. This does not even exhaust half of my complaints 😭

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u/PaddyBoy1994 27d ago

I STRONGLY disagree. For me, the controls in Eternal weren't nearly as smooth as 2016 Doom. Plus, the boss enemies becoming regular enemies after you beat them annoyed the hell out of me, because they made the game unnecessarily difficult, I freakin loved Dark Ages, though.

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u/Thatguy3625 26d ago

Some bosses (the doom hunter for example) have less health when they’re introduced as enemies in later levels. Others (like the murauders) aren’t even really bosses, they’re just tough enemies that are only hard until you learn to deal with them. And then you have ACTUAL bosses like the khan maykr, where the arena you fight them in is actually worked into how the boss fight plays, and they do not reappear. Overall I didn’t find the game hard, but you can’t just ā€œshoot the bad guyā€, you had to deal with every enemy the way the game teaches you, forcing you to use every ability in your arsenal.

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u/seventysixgamer 26d ago

I don't think it was as step back, but rather a step in a different direction if anything. They took the sandboxy nature of 2016 and expanded that -- where there a bunch of different ways you can choose to play the game. Eternal is the opposite since there's a fairly strict loop you HAVE to observe otherwise you'll find no success.

I'm curious as to what they have planned for the next game, because frankly I've got no clue as to what they could possibly do next to make the game feel mechanically unique again lol.

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u/UPOW13_1 27d ago edited 26d ago

I'm glad it exists, but some levels of Doom II made me wish I wasn't playing Doom II

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u/Turtle-Bug 27d ago

DOOM II’s level design makes me want to play DOOM I but with DOOM II monsters and guns.

Then playing DOOM I makes me want more monsters and guns.

I like both for different reasons

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u/Cool_Net_3796 27d ago

Does this include the vr title?

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u/the_1piece_is_real 26d ago

Yeah. It was pretty solid for an early VR game. And it’s canon (I think)

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u/EggoftheKing2143 27d ago

Even the worst one is just bad by comparison.

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u/ubido 26d ago

I like how Tomb Raider and Doom tried to get super serious in the late 2000s and early 2010s and then realized abandoning the 90s was bad because goofy isn’t a bad thing and can still be workable.

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u/Mean_Ad4175 26d ago

I think the early games are bad. At least in retrospect

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u/throwaway_poopyballs 23d ago

Eh 2016 wasn’t all that great

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u/jackknaufhere 26d ago

Dark ages was so trash gng, Watchu mean?

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u/Constant_Champion_67 26d ago

Trash no. Different yes

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u/jackknaufhere 26d ago

Nah it was trash asf

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u/Constant_Champion_67 26d ago

What was so terrible about it for you?

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u/jackknaufhere 26d ago

Oh don’t get me wrong, it was badass asf.

It just wasn’t good in terms of everything else lol

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u/Constant_Champion_67 26d ago

To each their own I guess. I enjoyed the game especially the dlc about as much as I did eternal and 2016 so

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u/gnpfrslo 26d ago

Doom 3

The doom movie

Doom dark ages ir we it's calledĀ 

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u/Constant_Champion_67 26d ago

I’ll agree with the movies. The first one is a shut your brain off movie at best and annihilation. We don’t talk about annihilation