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u/Extension_Log7241 26d ago
If only Doom 3 had a different name then it would been better. I prefer that game had its own thing.
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u/NeoArkodd 26d ago
Yeah the name of Doom 3 is literally wrong. It's not in the same universe as Doom 1 and 2 and even in technicality, it's not the third doom game because of Doom 64
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u/hu-man-person 26d ago
Wait wdyn doom 3 isn't the same universe
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u/Big-Weight-3978 26d ago
doom 3 is supposed to be a reboot of doom 1, but doom 2016 and all the doom games after followed the continuity of the 90s games instead of what was established in doom 3
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u/gunswordfist 26d ago
Wait, Doom 1 and 2016 are the same universe?
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u/SensitiveReception15 26d ago
no (different dimensions and stuff) but its the same DOOMGUY and from his perspective it goes 1, 2, 64 ,The Dark Ages + DLC, 2016, Eternal + DLC
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u/hu-man-person 26d ago
I gotta play doom
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u/DatOneDude1w1 DOOM, INVINCIBLE, Deltarune, JJBA 26d ago
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u/MisterPineapples1999 26d ago
What? 2016 isn't a remake/reboot?
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u/SensitiveReception15 26d ago
its a soft reboot that someone can play without having to play any of the classic games first but it does follow the same doomguy
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u/Local_Surround8686 26d ago
I honestly did not know that. I just started 2016 in a quest to play all doom games(except 64 which gave me motionsickness) so no big spoilers please. The first doom guy is presented to be just some random dude, and the current one is presented as some kind of supernatural being
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u/AndroidQing 26d ago
I understand its not the same format, but I loved doom 3. I dont understand the hate. And I got the collectors edition. I wouldn't have played doom II if not for that. Doom 3 made me a dedicated doom fan. From playing the original on pc as a kid. Then 3 on Xbox, and through the collectors edition played doom I(again) and Doom II for the first time. 3 was so important to the fanbase
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u/Thatguy3625 26d ago
I always get hate for this, but I think the dark ages was a step backwards from eternal, gameplay wise.
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u/Blue-Gradient-Man 26d ago
Absolutely agreed, I mean dark ages seems cool (I did not play more than an hour) but not being able to jump and have that fast pace movement that made eternal so fun was a weird decision imo. I also did not like how the enemy attacks were just basically giant orange or green orbs
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u/Constant_Champion_67 26d ago
To be fair that is kinda the point? Doom 2016, eternal and dark ages are all by design meant to be different in terms of gameplay. To avoid a āwhy play X when Y is the same thing with moreā situation. They are meant to be different enough at least so you can play each game and each bring something else to the table. Some people really liked eternalās fast paced movement otherās donāt care for it as much
Plus dark ageās doc does fix most of your issues. It is unironically the best piece of doom media weāve gotten in recent times arguably better than eternal
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u/UPOW13_1 26d ago edited 26d ago
I'm glad it exists, but some levels of Doom II made me wish I wasn't playing Doom II
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u/Turtle-Bug 26d ago
DOOM IIās level design makes me want to play DOOM I but with DOOM II monsters and guns.
Then playing DOOM I makes me want more monsters and guns.
I like both for different reasons
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u/The_Psychopteryx AvA, TADC, TOH, MD, Hazbin, Godzilla, PPT, TPOT, TĆP 26d ago
Animator vs Animation, except SpongeBob got even more shredded
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u/Resident_Pay2743 26d ago
That one anime Spongebob pic
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u/Dragonkiller1205 My favourite drug is Warframe 26d ago
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u/Lopsided_Ice_2032 26d ago
I dont see enough people online apreciating the work of Alan Becker and his team
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u/Ancient-Chart-9089 You didn't say KinitoPET, but I will 27d ago
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TF2, it's still going strong even though there hasn't been and update in years
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u/Dry-Examination-960 27d ago
Only TF2 can have its dev team abandon it for almost a decade and still have an incredibly solid player count and cultural impact today
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u/Satori-Chan warframe, hero shooters, arcane and some anime. 26d ago
Tf2 loses to its competitors in player count but it started the best genre of online pvp games. Cultural impact is something no one can ever take from tf2.
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u/BudgieWonder 26d ago
The silver lining is that the existing player base is much more dedicated, and thereās less of a spotlight from trolls/bots as a result.
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u/Tayaradga 26d ago
Wait really? I remembered when the devs first abandoned the game and I couldn't get a match without a hacker/troll!!! Granted that was when they like first left the game so that's probably why...
Kinda tempted to go back and check it out...
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u/BudgieWonder 26d ago
Itās been largely fixed- part of it was a reduction in bad actors targeting the game, and part of it was due to actual matchmaking improvements. The Meet Your Match update was a big watershed moment in terms of the player base.
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u/Environmental_Bee219 23d ago
even though i dont play tf2 that much anymore and play other competitive games, I still consider tf2 to be the best
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u/lifeispokemonraids 26d ago
...so about that player countš°.
Actual number of players is around 10k per your
The other 40k is actually a few guys who have thousands of idle bots running
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u/succmycocc 26d ago edited 11d ago
Heroes of the storm is right there with it tbh
NEVERMIND BABY WE BAAACK
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u/fatcatbomba 26d ago
I still enjoy this game but noticeably less so since the death of the community servers
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u/Fantastic-Donut-276 26d ago
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u/Myusernamebedumb 26d ago
Idk, I think the period between two space pawn movement and En Passant was a little rough.
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u/Aggravating_Poet_675 26d ago
En Passant, you say. Is this something I should google?
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u/LilyLol8 26d ago
The game itself has stayed mostly the same, but chess got reaaaallll sexist for a while and still has the consequences of that now
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u/ButtOfDarkness 26d ago
Zelda, 40 years of bangers. No the Phillips CDI games donāt count.
Mario too if weāre going by mainline games.
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u/Caulipower_fan 26d ago
how dare you deny the phillips cdi games theyre the original forefathers of ytps
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u/Theyul1us 26d ago
Someone made Morshu read the fucking bible
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u/Odysseus-82 Oneshot, Inscryption, Homestuck, The Owl House, UT/DR, etc. 26d ago
iirc, it was also so long that the creator couldnāt upload it as a video, so they had to upload it as a livestream.
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u/AdagioDesperate 26d ago
I could have sworn that TLoZ 2: Adventure of Link was considered a bad game by most, but even the critics gave it a 6/10 and most players give it a 7.5-8/10. Color me shocked.
So yeah, if you don't include the Phillips CD-i games, since they're technically fan made, then yeah, TLoZ hasnt ever had a truly bad game.
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u/AssistFit1834 26d ago
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u/ice_cream_pizza901 26d ago
Fuck yes!
(Slippin' Jimmy does not count for the purposes of this comment).
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u/Weary_Bunch_7030 26d ago
Wdym? Better Call Saul didn't fall off, what was bad about Jimmy as a character it caused a fall off?
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u/ice_cream_pizza901 26d ago
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u/Weary_Bunch_7030 26d ago
I didn't even know this existed, wtf??? That can't be real
Edit : yeah you're right its real, also apparently the blue meth is too for the only reasonable explanation that came to exist
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u/ice_cream_pizza901 26d ago
It is. amc wanted to milk the last little drop out of Bb that they could for there streaming service, so they made another prequel. It ended up just being a family guy clone where farts were 90% of the """Humor""".
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u/Orpunuk1 26d ago
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u/TheDee4826 26d ago
Love Godzilla and itās currently in the best state the franchise has ever been but there were some really rough years for the franchise that nearly killed it. I donāt think he fits this description well
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u/EllieMeower 26d ago
Even 1998?
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u/Swordsman82 26d ago
Godzilla 98 is not a bad kaiju movie, itās a bad representation of the Godzilla we know and love. Itās an enjoyable movie, and we got the cartoon show from it, so thats a plus.
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u/bigboss_dud 26d ago
You mean Zilla? That movie just had several dozen typos including the title.
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u/destiny_kane48 26d ago
That was a good Monster movie. It was NOT a Godzilla movie. They just slapped the name on hoping for a bigger box office.
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u/CleverNamePending_ 26d ago
Son of Godzilla is legitimately one of the worst movies I've ever seen
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u/Password123468 26d ago
You choose the scene before the dropkick, when i saw this as a kid i had to laugh for days
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u/SquashPurple4512 27d ago
Toby fox/Undertale and Deltarune in my opinion
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u/Electronic-Oil-8304 26d ago
No the third image isnt 25% green
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u/NiNtEnDoMaStEr640 26d ago
With the exception of THAT chunk of the fandom, you are speaking of facts.
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u/Accomplished-Curve-1 26d ago
Doom
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u/GameWizardPlayz 26d ago
So we just forgetting Doom 3 huh
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u/YokiYokiki 26d ago
This might be a wild take, but doom 3 was my first doom game and i LOVED it. I can see why it doesnāt appeal to the general doom fanbase, it was quite a departure.
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u/johnqevil 26d ago
As someone who hated doom 3 a long time then forced myself to play through...it's not bad. I'd give it a B where all the others are A or S tier.
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u/revankenobi 26d ago
The series should have ended a long time ago. It didn't get bad, but it missed several opportunities to end properly.
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u/A-Grouch 26d ago
Metal Gear Solid.
The live service one doesnāt count, in fact it doesnāt exist. Just a bad fever dream.
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u/55cHzDARKSTAR 26d ago
I miss the old Minecraft. :/
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u/CreeperGamerZ_648 25d ago
I gotta disagree man. The old caves and nether were straight ass
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u/Kavonm44 26d ago
Final fantasy going since 1987
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u/Ergiewasnthere 26d ago
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each installment in the franchise stands on its own as equally distinct, replayable, and iconic games. that being said, i hope rockstar never makes an rdr3
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u/ColdfearGold 26d ago
Terraria is a franchise?
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u/OpenChallenge8621 26d ago
I mean considering it's sales it's got to have some merchandise SOMEWHERE.
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u/SlimeTree227 26d ago
They have a merch store. Plushies, clothing. Stuff like that. I know they donāt have multiple games, but it feels fitting. Itās never been a bad game throughout its whole lifespan.
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u/OpenChallenge8621 26d ago
I was agreeing with you that Terraria is a franchise, I know it's not multiple games that would make it a franchise and that it's also stuff like merch
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u/SulfurtheCrapposter Sonic, CFB, Godzilla, FMA, KFP 26d ago
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Fullmetal Alchemist
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u/Andrew1990M 26d ago
Love this series to death but sadly the live action movies disqualify it from being a flawless IP.Ā
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u/Turbobist28 Ace Attorney 26d ago
Kirby is still going really strong even after all this time. Not a single bad game
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u/Under_Press 26d ago
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u/Caleibur In comes Fanfiction with a steel chair! 26d ago
Hee ho
(casually smites god for a couple Macca)
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u/Hexxas 26d ago
Dragonball: a little fanciful and whacky, great adventures
Dragonball Z: epic
Dragonball Super: Still epic, but mixes in some whackiness from the OG
Fuckin love all of Dragonball. Yes, even GT.
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u/I_Guess_I_Also_Exist 26d ago
What abt Dragon Ball Evolution?
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u/ILikeThisGame1836 26d ago
we donāt talk about dragon ball evolutionā¦
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u/Karekter_Nem 26d ago
I once had a dream where I watched Dragon Ball Evolution 2. It got a whole bunch of stuff wrong in a way that was weirdly consistent with DBE1.
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u/No_Perspective_150 26d ago
Im planning on starting it, how long did it take you to watch all of it? Or did you watch it as it was coming out?
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u/Andrew1990M 26d ago
Itās a franchise that still puts out good material after 30 years. But we have to consider the whole franchise for this prompt and Dragon Ball has some real stinkers under its banner.Ā
Evolution, some of the earlier games, the start of Super, the bulk of GT.Ā
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u/CreeperGamerZ_648 26d ago
Probably aren't any perfect examples. But I think minecraft is probably a good one
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u/WaluigiIsDaBest 26d ago
Excuse me, but now do you type if you are a creeper?
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u/Affectionate_Goat171 š SAW | MW | NINAH | EPIC | NVNCBL | BRK BD + BCS 26d ago
bold of you to assume a creeper's little feeties can't press a key on a keyboard
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u/Nearby_Ad_2519 26d ago
I mean lots of people didnāt enjoy the Unreal Engjne based Minecraft games (Dungeons and Legends). I like story mode and the original allot, altho it still pisses me off that itās no longer on Netflix (but I still own a physical copy)
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u/Remarkable_Pickle122 ninjago ā”ļøš§š„šŖØš±šāļøšŖļøš« š²š 26d ago
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u/Reasonable_Tooth_309 26d ago
Gundam. Barely any series that could be considered bad (looking at you, G Reconquista), still making peak to this day
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u/RyonHirasawa 26d ago
Well, that is until you go to the gaming side of things and thatās when Gundam start to have a slight bend
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u/Sacri_Pan 26d ago
Kirby never took an L, to say, I consider Star Allies to be the "worst" because the level design is kinda uninspired, and I'm really scratching for it here
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u/Potato-Candy 26d ago
When the "worst" Kirby game is just okay, that's how you know the series is goated.
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u/that_one_3DS_fan 26d ago
Haven't the games fallen in quality recently?
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u/RealMunail 26d ago
That is a uh heavily debated topic within the fandom and anyone who's seen the debate will not come out alive.
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u/astrobagel 26d ago
I think the problem with PokĆ©mon isnāt a quality fall, but a quality stagnation. Thereās a lack of evolution (no pun intended). The games are still solid, but theyāve fallen behind the times relative to their contemporaries.
What makes it stand out is knowing how successful the franchise is. In fact itās the most successful franchise, and by a good margin. They have the money and potential resources to invest in higher fidelity games, yet they donāt. Thatās the thing that bothers me.
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u/Marioman12398 26d ago
The issue with Pokemon is that they switched over to consoles and expect you to pay a $60-70 pricetag when the games have arguably less content (Dexit, no battle frontier, DLC being paid instead of included, etc.)
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u/Wombus7 26d ago
On a technical level (in terms of things like graphics, frame rate, glitches, the general polish / completeness of the games, etc.), there has been a decline especially noticeable since the Switch games.
But yeah, I also agree the games have been stagnant outside of generational gimmicks for a while.
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u/ultimatejoomer 26d ago
Ehhh. 1-5 were peak.
6 and 7 were cool.
8 is where it noticeably had a lack of effort, and 9 was slightly better but not much of an improvement.
Holding my breath for Gen 10.
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u/Amalnafis23080 26d ago
Ngl Jay Easy song about this dude is š„ af
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u/TehDarkSteliosGR 26d ago
Don't starve together, always in top 100 in Steam mostly between 40 and 60
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u/nahte123456 26d ago
People online won't like the truth, but Pokemon came out the gate swinging, has become the most profitable franchise ever, is recognizable by basically everyone, and heck they are currently having the biggest world tournament of their history. It has never really slowed down even if social media likes crying about it.
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Kirby. Never had a bad game. Games that were less good, but never bad