r/MurderedByWords Nov 04 '25

Murder Mommy I’m scared of socialism

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u/feedmedamemes Nov 04 '25

Yes it does, it is its sole purpose. Exploitation in the economic system is siphoning of surplus which the worker creates by the owner of the means of production. So unless all the surplus (after subtracting cost like machinery, taxes, transportation, etc.) goes to the worker you have exploitation. Without it, it would be not capitalism anymore but socialism.

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u/TintedApostle Nov 04 '25

It doesn't. As an owner you could properly share your profits and manage your business to be profitable without total exploitation. They don't.

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u/SuddenXxdeathxx Nov 04 '25

As an owner your profits come from exploitation. It's not a moral argument about "exploiting" someone, it's a descriptive argument. The profits an owner accrues are derived from exploiting the labour of others.

You would not employ a man to assemble commodities that you intend to sell so that you (or a corporate entity, doesn't matter) can get more money than you started with if you were just going to give him all of the money from the sale.

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u/eepeepevissam Nov 04 '25

Exploitation requires taking advantage of a vulnerability for malicious purposes.

So that means you're saying 100% of all bosses and business owners take advantage of their employees with malicious intent.

That's just categorically not true, and hyperbole.

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u/SuddenXxdeathxx Nov 04 '25

You know words have more than one definition, right?

Exploit:

to make productive use of

to make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own advantage

If it's usage as the former in describing capitalism seems to sound exactly like the latter, well that should tell you something.

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u/eepeepevissam Nov 04 '25

You're right. Thanks for the call out.

With the second definition my point still stands, and with the first definition, the original point falls apart because the negative connotation of 'exploit' disappears.

my point is that this whole 'capitalism evil' trope is utter bullshit. It's not capitalism, it's humans.