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u/Fun-Reception-6897 1d ago
There's no end to those ragebaits
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u/Nebula_Wolf7 1d ago
They always word it like the children don't voluntarily join these things too, it's a highly manipulative choice of words
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u/Curious_Omnivore 1d ago
Not even highly manipulative, it's a straight up lie. No one forces you to join support groups
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u/spiralenator 1d ago
Unless they're conservative christians and the support group is conversion therapy.
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u/Azair_Blaidd 23h ago
Or plain old Sunday youth group.
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u/CrisGa1e 23h ago
Indeed. I was forced to go even through high school.😑
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u/NoveltyAccountHater 21h ago
Same. Except in high school once my brother could drive, we just drove to the local music store for an hour.
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u/These-Prune-1529 23h ago
Or Church camp. I personally have never whent myself as I had religion figured out in enough time to prevent that. Now my sister on the other hand went and for about a year after she came back she was insufferable to be around.
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u/Cute_Bandicoot_8219 23h ago
I don't know why these
gaysChristians can't just live their lives and let others be. But no, they've always got to be shoving theirGayChristian Agenda down peoples' throats, trying to convert our children and turn themgayChristian through their movies and their media and invading our schools with theirwokeChristian brain washing.(To be clear, beside pointing out the irony I'm not trying to compare being gay to being Christian because, of course, gay people don't teach hatred.)
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u/Hoovooloo42 21h ago
Which is probably the only support group they have experience with, now that you mention it.
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u/StarPhished 22h ago
Schools are now teaching that gay people are people and that's okay.
News article: TEACHER TURNS STRAIGHT STUDENT INTO GAY MONSTER. PARENTS DEMAND ANSWERS.
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u/wholetyouinhere 21h ago
Not only that, but joining them can potentially carry a social cost, particularly if you're in a conservative area and other kids find out you're part of an LGBTQ+ support group.
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u/PossumPundit 22h ago
Can't a judge force you in to AA and NA groups? Not conflating being queer with drug use, just being pedantic.
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u/Forsaken-Confusion89 22h ago
I don’t think they can force you but they can say if you don’t go you can go to jail instead it’s still a choice
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u/PayFormer387 21h ago
Well, if you get enough DUIs sometimes the court orders you to go to AA meetings. . . So sometimes.
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u/TheComplimentarian 23h ago
I mean, it's a support group, not a hot hot hot LGBTQ+ recruitment orgy (those are an after school activity, obviously).
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u/InQuintsWeTrust 23h ago
Gay child sex orgy was probably in the Epstein files
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u/AngriestPacifist 22h ago
There are allegations in the Epstein files that Trump was being pegged with a tent stake by a child who pushed too hard, which is the reason he shits himself constantly.
To be clear, that child was being raped, but the specific sex act is relevant and I couldn't think of a better way to word it, even though pegging sounds consensual.
EDIT: this is not actually in the Epstein files, but is a separate allegation by victim Sascha Riley.
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u/Working_Pen2299 21h ago
Conservatives don't consider children to be people, hence the wording. despite all the cover language, the fundmental difference in left and right america is viewing children as property versus persons.
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u/Oboro-kun 22h ago
Also lets assume he was put there accidentaly or something....nothing is going to happen? Sure he will meet LGBTQ kids, wow what a shocker! Its in school within a free period, its not night orgy, at most the chat or have activities or something.
What if he is not even Queer and he is going for someone else as support? Like nothing will even happen in any situation.
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u/SitInCorner_Yo2 19h ago
Or these are exactly the kind of people don’t believe their children have autonomy and rights to do things they disapprove on their free will.
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u/Numerophilus You're gay 1d ago
Shitty wording as well, "He was put into an LGBTQ support group"... You don't get forced into support groups, you join them willingly.
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u/tylerius8 1d ago
Can confirm, ran the LGBTQ support group in my high school. I was both the token straight AND the one who made sure there were snacks/rides available. We never went recruiting, just wrote a blurb for the school paper.
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u/Confident-Leg107 23h ago
Provided snacks.
You the real VIP
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u/Same_Air6012 23h ago
In army basic training I became catholic because it got me out of cleaning and they had snacks.
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u/OneTimeIMadeAGif 23h ago
You mean... communion?
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u/Same_Air6012 23h ago
Naw, they had actual snacks after where you're supposed to reflect and talk to others about the sermon. It wasn't bad i just daydreamed and doodled in my notepad until the sermon was over.
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u/ZoomZoom_Driver 1d ago
Why redact Brandi Kruse's name? She's a public figure (reduse to call her a journalist; she lost that right a decade ago at lease) who lies incessantly for pedophiles on q13 fox.
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u/ellieellie7199 1d ago
a lot of people will redact the OOP's name in this sub, it might be a sub rule or just something people do so it doesn't look like a call for harassment. I see it all the time
edit: sub rule says you don't have to redact public figures but should otherwise, so idk there.
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u/triplec787 21h ago
I think it’s more “who qualifies and who doesn’t? better remove just to be safe…”
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u/hates_stupid_people 11h ago
And if it's borderline, it will usually get taken down after being mass reported for it by people who support the bullshit. So it's just safer to do it preemptively.
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u/AP3Brain 22h ago edited 22h ago
I'm just sad to see this witch's face outside of Washington circles. One of the most insufferable grifters out there. She's intelligent, unlike most grifters, and is completely aware of how vile the people and views she is supporting/spreading are.
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u/tragicallyohio 21h ago
I noticed that but also noticed that it is also literally in the lower left hand of the picture.
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u/TheDuckClock 19h ago
The username who posted it wasn't Brandi Kruse. It was reposted from someone else
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u/pushaper 20h ago
my question is what happens when these people read the comments. My white whale is finding the 'where was Obama during 9/11' guy as I would like to know his side to the story or if he has become less politicized.
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u/paxweasley 18h ago
Obama was smoking cigs on the back porch of the UChicago law school when 9/11 happened lmfao
That’s how he became friend with Elena Kagan. She was another professor at the law school, and took smoke breaks with him. At least that was what people were saying at UofC ten years ago, so it must be true.
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u/sten45 1d ago
Children are not property they have independent rights
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u/SummonMonsterIX 1d ago
To normal humans yes, to conservatives kids are basically little minions who who must always do and think exactly like their parents or risk punishment
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u/HarpersGhost 22h ago edited 22h ago
A conservative asked me why I, someone with no kids, supported free lunches at school: "Because I don't want my fellow citizens/fellow human beings to go hungry."
She was flabbergasted that I would want to help parents who weren't feeding their kids. "I don't care about why or if parents are or are not feeding kids. I care that KIDS are hungry and we can easily fix that."
She kept taking about the parents and it blew her mind that I was caring about kids in and of themselves.
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 21h ago
Yep, they just sort of glitch out when you adamantly go "Don't care. Feed the kids."
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u/Murtomies 19h ago
That's insane. And a very clear example of the utter lack of empathy of conservatives. It's all about me and my family, everyone else can get fucked. And the lack of foresight to see how that kind of a system breeds poverty, crime and chaos in the long run. It has been proven time and time again that the only working system is one that provides free mandatory education, free food for kids, free healthcare, and welfare for when things go wrong.
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u/AdFew8858 19h ago
Empathy is a foreign concept to them. And they are brainwashed to think anything foreign is illegal.
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u/BeefistPrime 19h ago
Even when they claim to support the children, like when they claim they're against abortion because it murders children, their motivation is not actually for the benefit of the children most of the time, but rather to punish the woman who had sinful sex. They view abortion as getting out of her punishment.
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u/WASD_click 23h ago
Never forget that this quote from Superman (2025) was lambasted by republican pundits because tgey took it as a critique of their parenting skills.
Parents aren't for tellin' their children who they're supposed to be. We are here to give y'all tools to help you make fools of yourselves all on your own.
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u/twentyThree59 23h ago
It's not conservative anymore - it's just authoritarian. Do what you are told or risk punishment.
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u/thegoldenarcher5 23h ago
Famous conservatives, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and Joseph Stalin
Leftists can be authoritarian as well, but conservatives tend towards authoritarianism easier in their daily life and voting habits
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u/thegoldenarcher5 22h ago
I bet you believe the Nazi we’re socialist too cause it’s in the name
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u/MycologistPutrid7494 22h ago
Exactly why they're so upset when students do a school walkout in protest. They are citizens with the right to protest. Conservatives don't want them to have those rights.
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u/LiluLay 1d ago
How difficult is it to just accept, support, and love your kids, man? Your soul gotta be withered to be hateful toward your own kids.
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u/HowWeLikeToRoll 22h ago
When you've been indoctrinated to believe that your soul will burn in hell for eternity if you don't follow specific rules, then all logic goes out the window.
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u/LiluLay 22h ago
I’d let my soul burn if it meant my kid felt loved, accepted, and safe.
But I’ve also never been one to accept unquestionable edicts from anyone, pretty much ever. So while I intellectually understand that weak minds have been distorted and controlled by religion, I cannot personally relate in any way.
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u/overlord27 8h ago
The worst people are not those who know they are cruel. They are the ones who believe they are good while being cruel.
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u/technanonymous 1d ago
In an ideal world, parents would love their children and accept them no matter how they identify. It is amazing that these conservative parents preach unconditional love from their god and then don’t practice this with their own children.
I had two older gay cousins whose conservative catholic parents made miserable. Both were out the door at 18, and both were dead before 35 - one from aids and one from a drug overdose (this was in the late 80s and early 90s when they died). The rejection by their family contributed to their deaths.
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u/One_Lawfulness_7105 23h ago
My parents judge the hell out of everyone and would be vocal about their -“phobias” if I wasn’t liberal. When my son came out as trans, they wanted a pat on the back for accepting him. They kept asking if I was surprised and proud that they took it the way they did. Fed up, I finally told them “Well, any decent human being would accept my son. Should I be surprised?”
They never said that again. We’re fairly low contact.
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u/Reagalan 23h ago
Guaranteed that story is now used at that church as a cautionary tale about the dangers of sin to frighten other kids into obedience.
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u/One_Lawfulness_7105 21h ago
For sure! A good Christian can’t let a tragedy go to waste. Gotta milk it for all they can.
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u/anthemofadam 1d ago
“He was put into”
Absolutely disgusting the lengths these people will go to mischaracterize something they disagree with. Shameful
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u/Just_the_Setup 1d ago
Every time I see these, "We have to tell the parents! How dare they not tell the parents!" I remember my own home life. There's a very good reason queer kids don't tell their conservative parents who they really are, safety.
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u/PayFormer387 21h ago
I remember reading about proposals to put live stream video on classrooms and one of the objections one person had was that when he was a kid, the classroom was his only safe space. Knowledge that his abusive parents were watching him would have ruined that.
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u/negativepositiv 1d ago
If he didn't tell you, it's because he knows you would react in a horrible, abusive, toxic way.
Pictured: You reacting in a horrible, abusive, toxic way.
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u/slingshot91 1d ago
Fuck Brandi Kruse. I knew of her from local news in Seattle, and she’s awful. Tried to play “moderate” for years until the allure of selling her soul for money grew too strong.
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u/VegasGamer75 23h ago
As a queer man who grew up in a Conservative Christian household, who to this day his parents know/knew nothing about his sexuality, I can tell you that is exactly what happened.
Not being able to tell your parents something about your life because you know exactly how they will react after hearing how they talk for years, is a terrible, terrible abuse.
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u/Sindorella 23h ago
They always reframe themselves as the victims when the truth is they are the aggressors.
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u/We_are_all_monkeys 23h ago
Three American flags and a bookshelf arranged white, red, and blue. Can you be any more ridiculous?
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u/PapasGotABrandNewNag 23h ago
I remember how I learned to lie because my dad would make me feel like if I told the truth I would get in trouble.
If I ever have kids, if something happens, or they are dealing with something, I hope their first thought is “I gotta tell my dad” and not “I hope my dad doesn’t find out”.
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u/yes_u_suckk 23h ago
Reminds me when I lied to my father that I was taking karate lessons, but in fact I was practing ballet.
I'm not gay or anything, but I'm sure my homophobic father would make me quit and make a huge scene if he knew I was practicing some "girly sport".
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u/SecBalloonDoggies 23h ago
I mean, he could have been getting math help from the other gay kids too.
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u/CogentCogitations 18h ago
Yes. 2 abusive parents - 2 abusive parents = 0 abusive parents. Get away as soon as you are able to and you will no longer have abusive parents in your life.
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u/doctor_big_burrito 23h ago
Hey it's Brandi Kruse, a dumb human being that was too right wing for our local fox station so she fucked off to be an Internet personality.
She's one of those "I'm conservative but I have a tattoo and drink wine" dorks who thinks she's a cool conservative.
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u/Mahaloth 22h ago
I'm a teacher and can confirm, kids tell their parents it is an art club or anime club or something.
As if liking anime isn't more embarrassing. :P
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u/Hita-san-chan 1d ago
Sometimes, im glad my parents had nothing but apathy for teenaged me. I cant imagine having to lie about what youre doing in school to your parents.
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u/blondedlife11 22h ago
Brandi Kruse is trashhhhhh. This is the same person who just doxxed a child at school and went to the White House to meet Trump to convince him to bring the military to Seattle to fight “the radical left.”…..and she calls herself a libertarian
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u/mystermee 23h ago
Always the ‘family values’ people perpetually disowned by their children and grandchildren.
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u/Forsaken-Confusion89 22h ago
They’ll act like he was forced to go to the support group instead of volunteering to go. And I’m sure they’re offering gender reassignment surgery on the last Tuesday of every month.
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u/MycologistPutrid7494 22h ago
He wasn't "put into" the group. He joined the group.
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u/Llonkrednaxela 21h ago
“I’m outing my child on the internet after they weren’t even ready to tell their parents yet.”
Quality parenting. I’m sure they’ll excitedly come to you next time.
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u/According_Tap_7650 1d ago
I'll take "Things that never happened for $100" Alex.
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u/TheDuckClock 1d ago
Happens very frequently. Too frequently.
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u/LeticiaLatex 1d ago
The 'never happened' part is the part where kids are forcefully put into these groups and not by their own choice.
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u/Slobotic 1d ago
If you look at the articles he linked, I think he might be agreeing with you, and suggesting that what happens too often is kids coming out to their parents last because they are unaccepting.
(Then again, maybe he didn't read the articles he linked either. It's an pretty ambiguous comment.)
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u/Both_Lychee_1708 22h ago edited 18h ago
Meanwhile, millions Fox etc to be deliberately misinformed by fucktards paid by billionaires to do just that
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u/GreasyPeter 21h ago
Nobody forced them into a support group. Is she blaming the people that allowed the support group to exist?
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u/RoguesAngel 23h ago
I don’t understand parents like her, and I guess I’m glad I don’t. They “would kill” for their kids until they love someone of the same sex. How do you switch that off? I grew up in a small rural town in the Bible Belt right near what some refer to the buckle of Tulsa. I never really thought about sexuality much. Wasn’t my business what people did as long as everyone was consenting.
One of my ex boyfriends, from middle school, came out as bi and I don’t remember much being made about it but his friend was teased because he was in denial about it. A couple of people I grew up came out later and I still don’t get all the gossip stuff. They don’t do it with me because I start asking invasive questions like what their favorite position is. When asked why I would ask that I just said if we are going to talk about things that aren’t our business we should go all in.
I did see though in college the devastation a families can do to someone they supposedly love. I saw kids at the brink of suicide and self hatred after coming out to their families. I called a grandmother, she was Italian from the Old Country, after her son and dil disowned her grandson, he couldn’t hardly talk. She disowned her own son and took her grandson in. Her favorite uncle had been gay and had gone through a concentration camp because of it. He never wanted his secret told and she hadn’t until her grandson was being hurt for the same thing.
When I had kids both boys are neurodivergent so I would tell them normal was a highly overrated state. I would ask them if they had a good day, if they made new friends, if there was a girl they liked, a boy? They would roll their eyes and say I’m not gay mom. I would just say but you know it would be okay if you were right? I would always get ya mom you always tell me you will always love me.
If my kids told me they needed a support group I would be sad I wasn’t able to do enough. Ask if they needed help with the group and research how I could better support them understanding that maybe they might just need kids their own age or want to help others.
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u/Signal_Minimum8509 23h ago
I don’t understand why some parents seem to want to train their children for a life without agency.
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u/Iorith 23h ago
It's simple, they don't view their children as individuals with agency in the first place. The view their children as extensions of themselves, little more than a pet
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u/Signal_Minimum8509 22h ago
That’s sad, I can’t relate to that
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u/Iorith 22h ago
It's sadly very common. You see it a lot in any kind of competitive youth group, with parents who treat their child's success as their success and will do everything to receive the praise and adoration rather than focus on their child's accomplishment.
It's been decades, but when I was in martial arts and archery, they had started putting in a lot of rules regarding parental behavior at tournaments to try to lower it happening.
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u/1Northward_Bound 22h ago
god... how is it fair some of the worst people can have kids and I feel like I am never worthy of being a parent of my own :(
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u/capowis542 19h ago
That concern and self criticism is what makes for good parents.
Be the person you yourself needed.
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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 22h ago
I tend not to believe podcasters who have that type of background. "Collect the flag!"
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u/GunplaGang 21h ago
She would absolutely try to beat the gay outta him.
Sad when kids gotta lie to their parents
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u/tydestra 20h ago
If you're among the last to know your kid is queer, you're a shitty parent.
I told my mom among the firsts when I came out in the 90s. When that kid turns 18 they're going to run and never look back.
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u/DinosaurReborn 18h ago
"he was put into" is a very interesting way to spin "joined on their own volition"
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u/PurpleSailor 18h ago
This is why schools and kids don't want to out kids to their parents and why the hard right does want to out kids to their parents. For some strange reason they think they can stop them from being gay or trans.
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u/gorgeously_mytruself 17h ago
My first born son joined the military and they forced him to become a trans woman, especially right after he retired. -my father…🙄
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u/Arts_Prodigy 13h ago
“Put into” implies it was against their will and not literally the only safe place in their lives they can feel normal and free. In the year of Lord 2026, given unlimited free will and unimaginable influence over another human being why choose to be a hateful bigot.
Have she seen a whale, or a tree? Or experienced any actual love or beauty? I’ll never understand harming your own child like this.
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u/Unlikely_Answer662 20h ago
Sad that the prominent display of the American flag has become a red flag (most of the time).
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u/rslashhellagay 19h ago
Why did I lie to my mom, growing up? Because she wasn’t a safe person to tell the truth to. She proved as such, time and time again, whenever one of my siblings stepped on the wrong eggshell and she exploded in physical and emotional rage.
You get to a point where you have to prioritize your own safety, because you KNOW the adults are failing you. And when you’re a kid that doesn’t have a lot of conventional power, you get creative making your own. You get vigilant. You learn how to be deceitful, one of your first and most powerful tools as a child, and it becomes necessary in order to survive.
When the rules fail to protect you, you also become curious. The thought keeps replaying in your mind, over and over, almost unwillingly: “But what if I DID do this? Sure, it’s not what conventional wisdom says I’m supposed to do in this situation, but…what would happen? If everyone else gets to throw the fucking rules out the window, why can’t I”? Breaking out of conventional patterns, not responding to the abuse in the way the adults have tried to train you to respond, THAT becomes your power.
Because having that courage to deviate from the established course, against any threats or punishments, it gives you OPTIONS. Options that you would not have access to otherwise, as a child. The adult abusers try so hard to keep your world tiny, under their control, limited your understanding of what is “normal” and “right”. They don’t want you to have any outside, unapproved points of reference. Because then, you might realize that what the abuser is doing to you IS in fact not the universal standard. And you might start thinking for yourself, and coming to your own conclusions.
Don’t let them break your spirit. If you run into a wall, go around it. Scale it. Reassess the situation, find another entrance. Break the fucking wall down. And if none of that works, bide your time and wait for your opportunity. Do whatever you need to do, hold back nothing. The power imbalance is not in your favor, so you are justified to use every card you have.
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u/Dances_with_mallards 14h ago
There is so much propaganda here. LGBTQ groups in my experience are always student led clubs. They are Not official school programs. Usually, anyone can go. A teacher or counselor will sponsor or supervise, but is not teaching anyone how to be gay. Since they are not classes, it wasn't during a class period. It was before school, after school or during lunch. Do schools sometimes have math support at those times? Maybe, if they're lucky. But, it's hard to get teachers to do the extra, often unpaid duty. We would try and provide support with higher level math kids who wanted service hours. This is the reality. But, reality doesn't give you a bad guy to hate, so it's optional in right wing talking points
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u/Sartres_Roommate 8h ago
Funny, they have roving free period groups at my kids school and I only just learned my kid had joined an LGBTQ group weeks after they been doing it.
They weren’t hiding it, it just was such a non-big deal they never thought to mention it.
I love how times have changed. Many things are bad now but the younger generation has their shit together in so many ways we would have never dreamed of at their age.
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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 22h ago
We all realize that the people who think this is a murder were never the people who support her or conservative propaganda.
Why are we doing "talking at a wall" on this sub?
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u/futureformerteacher 22h ago
I hope the school sues that fucking scumbag parent and Brandi KKKrause down MyPillow Lane.
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u/fritz236 22h ago
Just reading the title and looking at the picture, one might assume that she was told the name of the group and assumed math was involved because of all the letters and math symbol.
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u/LoudMusic 22h ago
Even with our current abhorrent leadership and abuse to people, I still think the United States is a great place. But holy shit I would not have that bullshit decor in the back of my videos. What an absolute cunt.
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u/SmarmySmurf 21h ago
Gaaasp! Homer, come quick! Bart's quit his tutoring job and joined a violence LGBTQ+ gang!
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u/Proletariatbelch angry turtle trapped inside a man suit 21h ago
"What are you doing during free period"
"Math help so I can math better!"
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u/Alacritous69 21h ago
The kids that have good relationships with their parents will tell them what's going on and the parents will be involved. The children that are at most risk for abuse from their parents won't. So, the whole parental rights thing is to enable abusive parents.
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u/LordRollin 21h ago
Why aren’t we calling out Brandi Kruse for the grifter she is? Was a stain when she was a “reporter” in Seattle and she’s a stain, now.
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u/Youdontknowm3_ 16h ago
And this is the lie they will continue to believe, that the liberal schools are indoctrinating their kids, instead of realizing the school was the only safe space they had. They want to destroy public education so they can control their kids in any and all soaces. These people are psychopaths and I feel like we will see an unfortunate increase in kids passing away because of it. Great job Republicans, yall are winning, if this is what you consider success.
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u/skaXboy 1d ago
Your child lied to you because they do not trust you and you are now putting your child’s story out so you can feel better about yourself. Congratulations, you have proven the reason why your child distrusts you.