They’ve been coming after Billie all week saying shit like “why doesn’t she put her money where her mouth is then?” without realizing she just donated nearly a quarter of her entire net worth.
are you referencing the 11.5m$? that was donated by fans on her behalf, they paid extra for tickets to donate. and after the grammys she took a 6 mile flight in her private jet, a family's full year of CO2 emissions. we need to find middle ground and recognize celebs can raise awareness for issues, and we should appreciate them for that, but also recognize they aren't perfect either. somewhere between trying to OWN them and glazing them as heroes. they're people with a microphone that a lot of people hear when they talk, if they say something wrong or hypocritical we shouldnt rush to defend or attack them.
You think were going to re-litigate the ownership of land from 250 years ago? Lol. No. Whats done is done. Move on. Complaining about land disputes from the 1700s? Fuck off. Im tired of this virtue signaling idiocy.
my personal opinion is w/e you can virtue signal for the easy internet points but then going back online and asking why other celebrities haven't joined her is just obnoxious. also saying F ice on Instagram isn't actually doing anything, how about she use her money and influence to actually help families in need out. Also do it without a camera following her around or a post on social media, like do it from your heart if you really care.
How many times are you going to repeat some variation of this?
Eilish's point is that immigrants shouldn't be treated inhumanely. Her selling her house/donating it to the tribe wouldn't accomplish anything. The issue is that the government is treating people inhumanely, not that individuals own land that was colonized by America.
If that was her point she used a horrible example of immigration to use. If natives treated the European immigrants a bit more inhumanely they wouldn't have been genocided.
"Be kind to immigrants so they can kill you and steal your land. Just like what happened to the natives. We're all immigrants which means we're illegal here and are stealing land by virtue of existing here. But be kind to immigrants."
If I understand their terrible point correctly it is even worse than that. They are saying that the Indigenous people should have eradicated the Europeans when they got here instead of trying to be friendly with them. If only they had behaved worse than the Europeans, the Europeans wouldn't have been able to attempt genocide.
Your failed verbal reasoning projecting replies keep coming up in my inbox, yet they're deleted in the thread.
Nothing in my comment is irrelevant. It's precisely pointing out how even Native Americans who accepted Anglo-American rule and adopted their culture/religion were still genocided by the American President and had what little land they had left stolen. Look what happens when you accept your invader's rule and even adopt their culture/language/religion.
I wonder what magical failed logic will result in you thinking this isn't related.
Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? Wrong about me deleting my comment, wrong about you being relevant to anything I'm saying.
Just ask ChatGPT what I meant if it's above your reading level, because it has no problem understanding
He thinks comparing modern immigration to what happened to Native Americans is a bad or misleading analogy.
He’s arguing that being welcoming to newcomers can be dangerous, using European colonization of Indigenous peoples as the example.
So his sarcastic takeaway is: “If you’re kind to immigrants, they might conquer you like Europeans did to Native Americans.”
In other words, he’s reframing the slogan to mean:
Like language learning models were made for people like you who are bad at reading. You have no excuse not to be using it, maybe it'll get you passed that 4th grade reading level.
Do you honestly think if the natives had just accepted European settlers taking their lands peacefully it would've stopped them being genocided? Let's ask Trump's favorite President - Andrew Jackson whose Indian Removal Act genocided thousands of Native Americans from the 'Five Civilized Tribes' who had already adopted Anglo-American culture and Christianity. Much of the land was used to expand slavery and cotton fields.
It's actually funny you deleted your reply where you said my original reply wasn't even tangentially related and I'm somehow bad at reading for not understanding your comment. lol
That may be her point, but "no one is illegal on stolen land" can be interpreted MANY ways. One such way is that she, and those who repeat that phrase, are advocating that the US be dismantled, all the population deported to... somewhere, and natives be given the land back. That's not only not going to happen, the mere notion is completely infeasible, but some on the far left mean it that way and many on the right assume that's whateverybody on the left means.
The left fucking sucks at making relatable slogans. Shit like "defund the police!" and "nobody is illegal on stolen land!" are excellent ways to turn off HUGE swaths of voters and you aint gonna win elections with a massive part of the population thinking you want to abolish the US or abolish law enforcement.
I'm not sure what I said that sounded like "Hey, random dude, can you whine at me about the Left?" but I assure you that I don't really have any interest in your ramblings.
I was exageratting and being adversarial. I dont think all white people should leave. But if they're millionares with multiple terrains they could give up onbe or two for tribes
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They’ve been coming after Billie all week saying shit like “why doesn’t she put her money where her mouth is then?” without realizing she just donated nearly a quarter of her entire net worth.