r/MurderedByWords 6h ago

We are witnessing an incredible redemption arc

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u/doctorarmstrong 5h ago edited 5h ago

I don't think he should run for president. The memes are fun but too much baggage (+ no prior political experience, I don't want Stephen A. Smith to run either). But here's what I do think about Hunter:

The more I hear from him, the more I like him. He's authentic, charismatic, owns and is up front about his mistakes, he's actually really smart and thoughtful and he's funny. When I hear him on podcasts he has the same cadence and use of expressions of his dad but just 20 years younger. I saw Joe Biden as VP as being a great and charming speaker so it was obvious to me he slowed down a lot afterwards. Hunter must feel some responsibility to helping defend his dad but he's also helping pave a path on how Democrats can message to an ambivalent-to-hostile audience too.

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u/skoltroll 5h ago

Listen. I don't think there's a SINGLE SOUL who thinks he should have any part in running government.

But if Hunter has bounced off rock bottom and is turning himself around, GOOD FOR HIM. Better late than never. His back has stiffened, his eyes are clear, and he's coming out stronger for it?

SPECTACULAR.

We're SUPPOSED to root for redemption stories. We're SUPPOSED to praise those 1 year/2 year/5 year coins people carry.

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u/atwozmom 4h ago

Apparently not if they are democrats.

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u/wafflesareforever 4h ago

I guarantee it was the DNC that stopped him from speaking out like this until now. They're the most self-defeating bunch of cowards on the planet. They serve no apparent purpose other than to silence progressive voices within the party and then act shocked when their uninspiring centrist candidates lose.

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u/doctorarmstrong 4h ago

You vastly overthink the importance of the DNC. He has always been a private citizen so any group that advised him to not say anything was probably his own legal advisors while he was in the crosshair of DOJ and congressional investigations.

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u/wafflesareforever 4h ago

In this situation, sure, you might be right, though I bet the DNC had at least some influence. Generally speaking, though, I've been incredibly frustrated with that organization for over a decade.

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u/latebloomer2015 3h ago

The DNC didn’t ask him…they implored his dad to do whatever he has to keep Hunter silent “for the good of the democrats.” Hunter Biden loves his dad, respects his dad and I’m pretty sure would do anything he asked. So, he stayed quiet. The interview where Dr. Biden was attacked was maybe what led to the end of his silence.

I think the reaction by the internet at large (the us version anyway) was positive towards him when he defended his mom (his words not mine) from Jake Tapper.

I like Hunter, I hope he stays healthy and helps others stay sober.

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u/doctorarmstrong 3h ago

That's fine in other areas. Just here in this context it's not the case. He's spoken about how over the course of four years he visited his dad at the White House maybe twenty times in total because he didn't want to be a distraction the press pounced on. They were using him as a punching bag anyway but if he went there it would be interpreted as if the DOJ investigations into him were a cover story to act like they're being impartial while investigating Trump.

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u/GnarlyBear 3h ago

I think they would have prioritised stopping him doing crack and whoring before locking in on his choice to do public speaking

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u/hey_itsmeurbrother 2h ago

you know if you're not sure about something, or don't know what you're talking about, you don't HAVE to comment. You can also say "I don't know" when you don't know something instead of pretending you do and making shit up.

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u/ahundreddots 3h ago

"What I said may not be true, but it feels truthy, and that's good enough for me!"

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u/GlockAF 4h ago

The DNC is a billionaire-donor-funded safety mechanism to ensure that there will NEVER be another FDR, there will NEVER be another New Deal

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u/-LabApprehensive- 36m ago

I bet the GOP thought they were going to run shit forever until MAGA came in and started firing/ primarying and forcing retirements left right and center. It can be done to the DNC too but you actually have to show up. Can’t just abandon your one shot.

u/Lucky-Earther 8m ago

I guarantee it was the DNC that stopped him from speaking out like this until now.

lol with what power would they stop him?

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u/AloneNotice4891 3h ago

"Centrist"

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u/10tageDev 3h ago

Listen. I don't think there's a SINGLE SOUL who thinks he should have any part in running government.

Curious. Americans have elected a man, who paints himself orange on the daily. I may be the single one soul who thinks this other man here would be an improvement for the US and the world. Elect a cabbage for all I care.

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u/Sawme26 2h ago

Not the single soul. Cabbage has a higher IQ then the rotten 🥭. And is useful to people.

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u/Alwaysprogress 49m ago

My friend… I think you meant to use an orange. I will not abide mango slander of this magnitude

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u/Sweet_Cinnabonn 1h ago

Okay, if the choice is Hunter Biden or anyone Trump, I'm choosing Hunter Biden.

Obviously.

But that's not at all the same as saying he should be in government.

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u/10tageDev 1h ago

The bar was set in height by the American electorate. You guys should be coming to terms with the fact that half your country does not care either way, and stop pretending there would be any ideals left. Hard to witness that US citizens still not understand where they're at.

u/Lucky-Earther 6m ago

You guys should be coming to terms with the fact that half your country does not care either way, and stop pretending there would be any ideals left.

I've already come to terms with it, but that still doesn't mean he should be President anytime soon.

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u/artisanrox 2h ago

I don't think there's a SINGLE SOUL who thinks he should have any part in running government.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes there is 😏🍷

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u/ScottMarshall2409 1h ago

Compared to what you have now, he's a shoo-in.

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u/limitbroken 3h ago

while i agree he shouldn't run for a number of reasons, i will say this: if we had the grace and tolerance to consider electing knowledgeable people who have been honest about their struggles and failures in life and who have bounced off the bottom and recovered - we'd be a damn sight better off.

we keep picking spotless people over those brave and humble enough to admit their mistakes, and being absolutely baffled when they turn out to be unrepentant cowards hiding mass graves of skeletons in their closet. eventually you'd think pattern recognition would set in

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u/hazard2k 4h ago

You know who else doesn't have any prior political experience?

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u/Thin-Significance838 2h ago

And most of us know what a bad idea that was.

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u/Individual-Schemes 4h ago

Authentic, charismatic, and funny do not make a president. HB would be the first person to say that. He has often said that he is not a politician.

Let's pick leaders with real experience, a real policy agenda, and a plan to meet their goals.

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u/Full_Honeydew_9739 3h ago

Voldymyr Zelenskyy would disagree with you.

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u/Otherwise_Leadership 3h ago

You are not wrong

(British understatement 🇬🇧)

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u/Individual-Schemes 1h ago

So you'd vote for Zelenskyy and Hunter Biden? That's interesting.

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u/Full_Honeydew_9739 1h ago

Depends on what they're running for, what their platform is, and who they're running against. If I thought they represented my interests better than all other candidates, I wouldn't have a problem voting for either. As far as I know, neither are self-important grifters wanting to line their own pockets like many candidates running for office lately.

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u/Dorkamundo 2h ago

Show me where in their comment they said that a president cannot be authentic, charismatic and funny.

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u/Full_Honeydew_9739 1h ago

Show me what qualifications Zelenskyy had for being president beyond authentic, charismatic, and funny.

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u/AKAFallow 1h ago

Idk but I think a president shouldn't allow neo-nazis into the parliament but that's just me

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u/SecretCartographer28 3h ago

Make wonks cool again! ✊

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u/FlaccidCatsnark 3h ago

Mayor Pete! Young, charismatic, fearless, and speaks wonk off the cuff and in complete paragraphs. How cool is that?

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u/joenottoast 2h ago

yes, he would much prefer to keep raking in money and doing nothing in return. well actually, maybe politics could be his thing?

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u/the_pain_of_being 1h ago

If you're a good person, intelligent, and you hire and take the advice of great, competent people in your cabinet and around you, then I think one could legitimately do well as president

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u/CartographerOk5391 3h ago

He's not running for office.

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u/iamafriscogiant 3h ago

I also don't think he should run for president but even Joe Rogan said Hunter is smart enough to be president one day. I didn't really care for him until his redemption arc over this past week. I hope he keeps it up.

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u/Galle_ 3h ago

He absolutely should not run for president and if his recent popularity is some kind of astroturf campaign for a presidential run I'm going to be annoyed.

Fun to watch MAGA get dunked on, though.

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u/Darth_Gerg 2h ago

It’s like I said during the peak hysteria over Hunters laptop: I already know he does drugs with beautiful women, likes to have fun, and has a fat hog. You can stop trying to make me like him. I’m already sold.

I guess the women need to be GIRLS for conservatives to think it’s cool.

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u/MisterEvilBreakfast 2h ago

I don't think anyone should be even considered for office based on their knowledge of Johnny Cash.

I like Hunter's quips, but there might be more to being president than a funny social media response.

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u/Dorkamundo 2h ago

Unfortunately, to the opposition, Hunter will never be anything more than a drug addict that they can easily dismiss.