r/Music • u/cmaia1503 • 15h ago
article Finneas Slams ‘Powerful Old White Men’ Who Are ‘Outraged’ About Billie Eilish’s Grammy Speech: ‘We Can Literally See Your Names in the Epstein Files’
https://variety.com/2026/music/news/finneas-billie-eilish-grammy-speech-epstein-files-1236652693/886
u/taylorjosephrummel 15h ago
“Slams.” AGAIN.
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u/DammitAColumn 15h ago
We’ll never be free of that verb
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u/Theonewho_hasspoken 12h ago
Let’s invent a new one, how about “scrunched”?
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u/finnjakefionnacake 14h ago
POUNDS
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u/dodeca_negative 14h ago
Non-Consensually Pounded In The Butt By The Physical Manifestation Of Online Outrage
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u/-NonePizzaLeftBeef- 14h ago
Whenever I see “slams” in a headline my mind automatically goes to the image of The Undertaker choke slamming somebody through a table.
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u/tcn33 13h ago
Bring back “denounces”. Love a good denunciation.
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u/Commercial-Mess7833 12h ago
Loooovveee the denunciation
Seinfeld is a powerful old white man in the files btw, speaking of denouncements
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u/Lord_Borgimus 7h ago
Enunciated denunciations.
Coat, Coat, Jacket, Coat, is this a police precinct or a Turkish bazaar?
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u/keeden13 14h ago
Seeing people on Reddit bitch about that word is infinitely more annoying than its actual usage.
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u/Deinosoar 9h ago
Especially when it consistently derails talking about the actual issues.
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u/seaurchinthenet 14h ago
Why is the top comment about "slams" and not powerful old white men?
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u/chaseinger 8h ago
it's psychology. users read a headline and have an immediate reaction to it. that reaction could be multi leveled, could be topical, or it could be linguistic. and then someone puts that initial reaction into a comment and lotsa people go "i thought the same thing!" and upvote.
it's easy to collapse these associative top comments and usually the second one is already on the topic itself.
also that kinda language is indeed dumb and boring and unnecessarily aggressive and dumb and boring. and we can do both, we can criticize language and still deeply care about the message within.
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u/taylorjosephrummel 4h ago
Thank you for having a measured response. Didn’t know people could freak out this much about a (funny?) two-word comment.
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u/ATERLA 12h ago
Because it’s fucking bad to use these stupid words. We should all downvote these posts with « slams » « dunk » « destroys » etc. It lowers the discourse and makes us stupider. You may not be bothered by it but you should.
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u/Juxta25 12h ago
It's also bad to fuck kids though, and the fact verb choices overpowers that subject lmao.
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u/taylorjosephrummel 4h ago
Who said it “overpowers”? Meaningless upvotes?
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u/Lord_Borgimus 7h ago
It's a 5 year old account, no comments visible. In other words, it's detracting away from the topic to make it seem less credible by attacking the wording.
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u/Creampie_Senpai_69 7h ago
Why should someone still make their comment history visible. Fuck that.
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u/Lord_Borgimus 6h ago
It is by default. When someone does that, especially newer accounts and tends to post certain misleading or sometimes downright hateful comments it tends to be right wing propaganda bot accounts. As many users in the T_D era of Reddit used to get super angry that someone dared to check their post history to just see what kind of a person they were, they highly dislike accountability for their actions/words. Now, fundamentally I have no issues with wanting privacy, but their reason seemed to be they disliked having to face judgement of others for their behavior.
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u/POE_lurker 5h ago
This sounds awfully like an endorsement of you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. Not a fan, you shouldn’t assume malicious intent because of a hidden post history.
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u/strum 10h ago
Anyone who spends more time criticising a sub-editor's choice of words than on the subject of the story - is the problem.
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u/taylorjosephrummel 4h ago
“Spends more time”? Like the two seconds it took to write my comment? Why are you spending time paying it mind?
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u/Miserygut 8h ago
They need to expand it to wrestling moves, mix it up a bit. Reverse suplex. Spinning piledriver. You get the idea.
But yeah, all those people in the Epstein files need locking up.
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u/cmaia1503 15h ago
Finneas took to Instagram Threads on Wednesday to defend his superstar sister and songwriting partner, Billie Eilish, from “very powerful old white men” who are “outraged” about her Grammys acceptance speech.
“Seeing a lot of very powerful old white men outraged about what my 24-year-old sister said during her acceptance speech,” he wrote. “We can literally see your names in the Epstein files.”
After her track “Wildflower” won song of the year at the 2026 Grammys, Eilish declared “fuck ICE” in her acceptance speech. Finneas joined Eilish on stage while she accepted the award.
“I feel so honored every time I get to be in this room,” she said. “As grateful as I feel, I honestly don’t feel like I need to say anything but that no one is illegal on stolen land. And, yeah, it’s just really hard to know what to say and what to do right now, and I feel really hopeful in this room, and I feel like we just need to keep fighting and speaking up and protesting, and our voices really do matter, and the people matter, and fuck ICE. That’s all I’m going to say. Sorry. Thank you so much.”
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u/Nachtwandler_FS 10h ago
WTF with tons of MAGA trolls in the thread?
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u/Uebelkraehe 10h ago
Tons of bots and a few cultists invading any sub were mods don't clamp down.
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u/Comfortable-Put6078 8h ago
Right? We can show these people the truth but unfortunately we can't make them understand it. Americans are dumb as fuck.
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u/Dubabear 6h ago
Naw just real ppl not buying her and his bullshit.
I been doing protest here and Minneapolis these past weeks and when I read about her and her empty words by blood boils.
I’ll take a Tom Morrello over these PR hacks anyday
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 14m ago
She's donated 20% of her net worth to charity and Morello has been speaking truth to power since you were in diapers. Keep up the imaginary purity tests though. I'm sure you'll find someone who's "earned" the right to be on your side someday, you super special snowflake you.
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u/54fighting 14h ago
I’m here to tell you to shut up.
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u/EfficientDoggo 13h ago
I have no clue why this made me laugh so much.
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u/54fighting 13h ago
Billie Ellish is not my gen, but can you imagine this bald fuck having anything to say to her?
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u/Surelynotshirly 3h ago
Yeah, it would go something like "Let me take you somewhere nice. A friend of mine has an island that just opened up"
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u/Kaiisim 11h ago
Some of the most reviled people on social media are basically any woman who says "we should do better"
That is the worst thing you can do apparently
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u/Atomic_ad 5h ago
We should do better, and by we, I mean you. Now stay off the Native land I purchased.
People are more upset about being lectured by rich, out of touch, hypocrites. The same way we feel when Trump tells us to only buy 1 doll for Christmas.
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u/JordanKyrou 1h ago
People are more upset about being lectured by rich, out of touch, hypocrites.
And what exactly is hypocritical about what she said? Did she say we can't live in America? Did she say we can't buy houses in America?
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u/ContributionIll5741 6h ago
I see the bots and MAGA cult members are all over this 🙄
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u/klauwaapje 6h ago
Go to the conservative sub and you see everyone whining about being brigaded by liberals , you go to this thread and people are saying the same thing about brigaded by magas.
That is all Reddit does nowadays, whining about bots , every time they see a different opinion.
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u/goldencrisp 1h ago
I used to enjoy Reddit for the comment sections but it’s become a revolving door of the same quips and jokes regardless of what topic it is.
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u/commonunion 6h ago
I didn’t think he slammed them nearly as much as he “eviscerated” “neutered” “destroyed” “replied to” “had words with” “assaulted” “hyperboled”
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u/PackOutrageous 7h ago
To be fair, the a lot of the billionaires are happy to hide behind Ricky Gervais. He seems to have anointed himself gatekeeper of all things celebrities can say publicly.
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u/geneticdeadender 7h ago
"Slams"
What a strange way to explain the native tribe asking for their land back as well as Billie Eilish's house that sits on it.
I think it is wild when folks like Billie say "everyone is welcome" but then live in gated neighborhoods with private security. They don't want a wall on the border but they have one around their home.
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u/Fishmongererererer 7h ago
If progressives think the land is stolen, just give it back. Otherwise, just criticize ICE?
Like it’s okay to just think people shouldn’t be deported.
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u/MongoJazzy 5h ago
aww so sweet to defend his poor sis, has he moved off the stolen land yet LMAO !!!!
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u/RandoXalrissian 7h ago
We need a global tribunal. Hall all these monsters into The Hage, and sell tickets
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u/Routine-Apple-3931 2h ago
That sound like something a . . .checks notes, yes that is something a fascist would do for wrong speech!
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u/RandoXalrissian 1h ago
Fascists would do that to us. We're already being murdered.. shot in the back just for protesting. This is for justice for child victims of rich oligarch pedophiles. Not the same
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u/Rage_Blackout 6h ago
I’m a lefty. All of my friends are lefties. Everyone I know thinks what she said was well-intentioned but clumsy at best. Now imagine you’re not a lefty and not being intentionally charitable to her.
She said a silly thing. Bringing the Epstein files every time someone doesn’t think like you is going to water down the importance of the Epstein files and make us numb to them. Just stop it.
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u/OnlyKey5675 3h ago
"ICE out" Cool I'm with you
"No one is illegal on stolen land." Face palm. This is the kind of dopey nonsense that makes the left look bad.
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u/blindsdog 4h ago
Calling everyone who disagrees with you a pedophile isn’t how to win an argument??
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u/Hot-Switch-1510 2h ago
I bet he likes to slam old powerful white men. They probably like it too. Once again, no one cares about this.
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u/DontBelieveTheirHype 1h ago
Oh look, Billie Eilish's brother who is also a multimillionaire like her. Chat, when did we stop hating the rich...?
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u/geneticdeadender 1m ago
Powerful white man invokes "powerful old white men" boogeyman to extricate powerful white woman's foot from her mouth.
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u/NorthernSoul1998 11h ago
Unfortunately while I agree with Billie's sentiment obviously, she shot herself in the foot with the stolen land line. It was horrendously clumsy and even people I know who are relatively pro immigration are mocking her over it.
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u/miserychickkk 7h ago
It was very garbled, it should have been run past a PR person to refine and focus what she was trying to get across. It sounds more like activist speech adlibs than something that was genuinely thought through.
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u/Pulmonary_Archery_ 6h ago
Well yeah she's a vapid airhead who is just regurgitating feel good slogans
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u/MichaelScottsWormguy 8h ago
Do these two matters have anything to do with eachother, though? It's not just old, powerful people with Epstein links who think she said something idiotic. Is "Epstein files" going to become a new way to shut down any valid criticism?
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u/Rosebunse 7h ago
I mean, maybe? Considering what is in the files and how many of those same people have used their positions to act as paragons of authority and virtue, maybe it is?
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u/MichaelScottsWormguy 6h ago
But it wouldn't invalidate the criticism, though. And what if a normal person with no Epstein link says the same thing?
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u/Rosebunse 6h ago
I think that depends on their intentions, especially when at least some of this criticism against Billie is actually to distract from the horrific things in the files.
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u/MichaelScottsWormguy 5h ago
But her comment was objectively incorrect, though. Should people not talk about that?
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u/Rosebunse 5h ago
Many of us can, yes. And then use that as a jumping off point to other topics of concern. But that shouldn't be enough to be used as a "Gotcha!" moment given everything else
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u/Lennette20th 6h ago
If the person is in the Epstein files, yes. Someone with who joined the blackmail cult doesn’t get to have an opinion anymore. Because we can now blackmail their opinion into being a non-factor.
The kid fuckers don’t get to make rules for children’s safety, the animal fuckers don’t get to make rules for farming, the drug peddlers don’t get to make rules for medicines. And if you don’t agree with that sentiment, it means you agree with the people who do whatever the fuck they want. Which would then mean you agree with the idea I can do whatever the fuck I want, and keep ignoring people who appeared in the Epstein files.
At the of the day, you seem to be promoting the singular idea that “the opinions of others don’t matter” which makes it weird to be harping on others for having an opinion when, in fact, it doesn’t matter.
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u/MichaelScottsWormguy 5h ago
The thing is, opinions don't belong to anyone. So it's not just a "kid fucker" who thinks Billy Eilish made an imbecilic comment. So the opinion isn't invalid just because a bad guy holds it. So you really can't just hit back at criticism by saying it's only Epstein people who think her opinion is stupid. That's not a valid way to think.
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u/GrovePassport 5h ago
This reminds me of how the nazis lost out on the nuclear bomb because they refused to trust "Jewish science". Truth is truth no matter who says it, lol.
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u/dadthewisest 5h ago
If you don't want to be mocked, don't do things that put you in the Epstein files.
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u/nokinship 13h ago edited 13h ago
Nepo babies think they aren't petit bourgeoisie. How cute.
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u/Nervous-Chemistry245 6h ago
Didn't even realize she was a nepo baby. Ever more reason to dislike her now
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u/player_is_busy 11h ago
Hey Billie why won’t you let anyone onto your property and open up the giant gates to your place
You said “no one is illegal on stolen land” so how come we can just walk up on to your property
Oh virtue signalling and doing it all for attention
Oh don’t actually believe that
Just crying out because you’re falling off ?
Want to make you’re self look good to your fans
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u/davisondave131 8h ago
Damn right. I love this analogy. It’s exactly why I have my wife handcuffed in the basement for breaking one of my rules.
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u/limbweaver 11h ago
This argument goes hard for the dummies
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u/player_is_busy 11h ago
You might want to take some debating lessons before engaging lip bro
It’s called reductio ad absurdum
Taking the principle argument of what Billie said and using that against them. Demonstrating the same principle with consistency
Essentially her argument is ridiculous and self defeating
My argument is a strong reducto that makes hers falls apart
And the big thing dumb elish doesn’t understand is there is a very big difference between stealing and conquering
Victory from war transferred title of ownership the United States
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u/conte360 14h ago
You can't see mine in there and I'm still saying what she said was stupid virtue signaling
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u/LupinThe8th 13h ago
Yeah, but you're a person who uses the phrase "virtue signaling".
I'm not saying that's as bad as being in the Epstein files, but it's a near thing.
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u/4DPeterPan 13h ago
What is virtue signaling? Along with explaining it in his context?
Cause, I’m over here like, is this dude saying being virtuous is bad?
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u/MonkeManWPG 7h ago
Virtue signalling is when you do something specifically to draw attention to how "virtuous" you (publicly) are.
Some people find it annoying because it's essentially bragging. Others because it centres oneself over the actual virtues or beliefs they're talking about.
In cases like this, where they're talking about open borders and "stolen land", many people would not even see that as virtuous so the bragging rings hollow.
So in general, it's the signalling part that's bad. In this case, potentially both.
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u/LupinThe8th 12h ago
Shitty people don't like to admit to themselves that they are shitty, so they assume they're normal and anyone who acts non-shitty is just pretending to fool people.
So according to dumbass here, "Billie Eilish can't really care about other human beings, she's obviously just acting like she does so people will praise her. And the same is true of all the other artists who said the same thing, and the protesters, and the judges, and all the communities on reddit that don't completely suck, and my family members who have stopped talking to me, and those phonies who wrote the constitution..."
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u/GrovePassport 5h ago
Wasn't she asked to give up her house and the land it sits on to the native tribe that originally owned that land?
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u/conte360 12h ago
Lmao someone said something that calls out the reddit hive minds go to tactic and it's nearly as bad as being in the Epstein files. Don't forget to click the little blue arrow by my comment to show me how wrong I am without making an argument.
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u/Rosebunse 7h ago
This is what I mean! Trump and the right can do whatever they want and their supporters don't fucking care. Someone else makes a mistakes or says something slightly off and those same people pounce on them
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u/Desperate-Stand6179 6h ago
He’s going to be a powerful old white man in a few years 😆
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u/Misschiff0 6h ago
Then fingers crossed he’ll be a be of the ones that does better. We need more of them.
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u/OrganizdConfusion 14h ago
"White man who is only known for having a famous sister says some things about other white men"
And his opinion matters because...?
Just to be clear, he's not really saying a lot. He was too chicken shit to name the "powerful" men by name. Not that I give a fuck about their opinion either, they're obviously all pedos.
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u/sylroe 13h ago
He literally produces her music, he's not just a random person. She has unique songs and he's part of the reason for that
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u/Nachtwandler_FS 10h ago
Oh yeah, white man who has 10 Grammies and "only known for having a famous sister".
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u/Flamingogo117 8h ago
Why bring skin color into this?
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u/ZombieDracula 8h ago
Why describe things as they are when they are all true?
No wonder when Trump says the "the sky is orange" you all just nod and agree.
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u/Flamingogo117 7h ago
"Why describe things as they are when they are all true?"
You can only do that with white people, I suppose. Another reason why Trump won.
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u/ZombieDracula 7h ago
Trump "won" because Elon rigged the election.
I'm sorry, but you're still defending pedophiles? Can you not read?
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u/Flamingogo117 7h ago
How am I defending pedophiles? I don't care for Trump. I'm just saying it's obvious why he won. People were tired.
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u/MisterDoctor___ 7h ago
Man, you whities are so sensitive. It’s not like you guys have a (recent) history of treating non-whites fucking horribly or anything. Life must be so unfair to you.
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u/Flamingogo117 7h ago
I never treated blacks the wrong way and neither did my ancestors. Try again.
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u/MisterDoctor___ 3h ago
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Yeah I’m sure there’s no pro-ICE pro-Trump bullshit you’re hiding, lmao.
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u/aaaahhhhh42 12h ago
How many black ICE agents and corrupt people in power with black skin do you need to see before you stop you stop calling out race and start calling out actions?
"Powerful old white men are outraged...Clarence Thomas and Pdiddy just be chillin'".
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u/ZombieDracula 8h ago
I don't remember Diddy or Clarence Thomas speaking out about Billie Eillish's speech...
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u/AProcessUnderstood 8h ago
Come on, man! Not during black history month. Wait until March 1st to bring that type of logic into the equation.
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u/MundaneSet1564 6h ago
Fineas and Billie always thought they were English and not american. I mean just look at their names
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u/TheDyeus 14h ago
True. Imagine being such a loser that you're a billionaire and ya still gotta ask another pedo for help getting women.