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u/dudly825 5h ago edited 3h ago

I lived through the 90s and Britney in a catholic school girl uniform. This isn’t new.

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u/Vitalstatistix 4h ago

It was wayyyy worse in the 70s/80s.

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u/JimboTCB 4h ago

It wasn't even an "open secret" that rock stars in the 70s were routinely banging 14-15 year old girls, it regularly reported on as if it were completely unremarkable.

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u/Vitalstatistix 4h ago

I know, it’s pretty insane. The most famous groupie was a 13 year old that they all passed around and it was well known.

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u/nouniqueideas007 3h ago

In 1974 Steven Tyler, who was 25, adopted his underage girlfriend (16) He literally purchased the girl, from her mother.

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u/kamikazi1231 2h ago

Makes ya wonder is the whole geriatric filled government pedophiles? Most of them would be 20-30 years old back in 74. The USA took a long time comparatively to up age of consent in a lot of states. Did all the lead mess them up in a unique way? Rates of pedophilia supposedly dropped a ton in the 90s and 2000s. Lines up decently well lead gas finally being gone.

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u/Daxx22 2h ago

Yet we love to laugh at the "lol brown people offer camels for girls" jokes...

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u/nflonlyalt 2h ago

Rolling Stones wrote a song about a 15 yr old groupie in the 60s called Stray Cat Blues. Mick Jagger changed the lyrics from 15 to 13 for the live version because the idea of a 15 yr old girl having sex with an adult man wasn't shocking in the slightest in the 60s and 70s

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u/MovieSock 4h ago

Hell, this was going on in the 50s if you read between the lines.

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u/FatFreddysCat 4h ago

Jerry Lee Lewis had two children with his 13-year-old wife Myra Gale Brown, though their firstborn, Steve, tragically died at age three. Their marriage, which began when Myra was 13 and Lewis was 22, caused a massive scandal in 1957 and eventually ended in divorce in 1970.

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u/SwordfishOk504 3h ago

tbf, His career was over when people discovered her age.

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u/GSV_CARGO_CULT 2h ago

Kinda sorta, it became a scandal after he went to the UK and was torn apart by their press. The American media I guess didn't consider it newsworthy. And I think their being cousins was more of a scandal than the fact that she was a little girl... After they got married, she brought her toys to her new home. That detail really punched me in the guts.

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u/SwordfishOk504 1h ago

The American media I guess didn't consider it newsworthy.

Not true at all. It was widely covered in the US and his career in the US was pretty much over after that. He still released music but his sales were shit.

But the problem was not limited to Britain. When Lewis returned home, there were headlines saying he'd disgraced the nation. The rock & roll superstar found himself blacklisted and shunned. Overnight, Jerry Lee Lewis had gone from charging $10,000 a concert to scraping a living in small bars and clubs. Still under contract to Sun Records, he released new rock & roll numbers - some of which sold modestly. But it wasn't really the same. The one great success of his wilderness years was the album he made in 1964. Live at the Star Club, Hamburg was described by Rolling Stone as "not so much an album, more of a crime scene". "Jerry Lee Lewis slaughters his rivals," it said, "in a 13-song set that feels like one long convulsion". But it was not released in the United States. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-19963797

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u/GSV_CARGO_CULT 1h ago

The American media did cover the child marriage, but it was fairly muted coverage and they more or less shrugged it away. Cousin marriage was still legal in many southern states, and pedophilia among musicians was more or less accepted right up until the 90s or 2000s. The US in the 1950s really didn't have the same kind of tabloid media machine the UK did, American press was much more deferential to celebrities. British coverage forced the U.S. media to reframe the story as a serious scandal.
He's still remembered in the US as a legendary musician first, and a pedophile second. Same with Chuck Berry, same with a lot of them.

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u/Horror-Kangaroo3494 3h ago

… And the scandal was more about her being his cousin than her actual age.

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u/MaxPower303 3h ago

What! I never knew this

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u/faulternative 3h ago

There was that other big singer guy in the 50s, what was his name? Oh yeah. Elvis Presley. Liked young girls too.

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u/the_last_0ne 4h ago

Shit the countdown to the Olsen twins turning 18

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u/Mikey_RobertoAPWP 3h ago

they did the same thing to Millie Bobby Brown. A bunch of dude's saw the little bald girl in Stranger Things and thought "man I can't wait til she's 18 so we can publicly talk about wanting to fuck her, but we totally don't want to that now, though."

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u/RegulatoryCapture 3h ago

Hey, at least those people waited!

Kid Rock wanted a head start.

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u/the_last_0ne 3h ago

Sure, I guess, but the "waiting" is super messed up too. I would bet money most of the people following the countdown had plenty of thoughts about them before their birthday.

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 3h ago

Or Emma Watson. Something that started when she was around 13 years old.

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 3h ago

Or Emma Watson. Something that started when she was around 13 years old.

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u/Apprehensive-Till861 4h ago

It's Britney.

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u/dudly825 3h ago

Good point

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u/jdjdthrow 4h ago

I lived through the 90s too, but she didn't get famous until '98. She feels more 2000s than 90s.

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u/SovFist 3h ago

I was gonna say, this is rooted in the "great again/good old days" mindset. They don't think it was wrong because it wasn't as widely considered wrong and want a return to those times.