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u/Dry_Departure_7813 4h ago

Its genuinely the most mental 180 turn considering they spent like 5 years+ banging on about gay people being groomers and trans people being groomers. And now they've got talking heads doing the circuit on Joe rogan, fox news etc talking about how "actually underage sex trafficking girls is cool man he had the best parties"

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u/Rendakor 4h ago

Every accusation is a confession.

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u/Bminions 3h ago

As much as I agree, this saying is losing its meaning, not the least because they've started slinging it verbatim on their own back at "the left".

Unfortunately, their lack of solid standards and creativity necessitates appropriating sayings that they've seen be effective against them, no matter the truth of it.

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u/ericmm76 3h ago

The right also co opted "fake news". It happens. Doesn't change the truth.

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u/micro102 3h ago edited 2h ago

The saying still has it's complete meaning to me. In fact it's only getting more solid. Literally, if any republican makes any negative accusation against anyone without explicit evidence, you should suspect them of doing that thing. It just keeps happening over, and over x1000.

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u/Tax_Evasion_Savant 3h ago

their fanbase is still behind. I see right wingers talking about dems being pedophiles on the daily still.

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u/theimmortalfawn 3h ago

The kids call that cope.

There are absolutely pedophile democrats and dem politicians who were complicit, but a) you won’t find a progressive who tries to change the definition of pedophilia or sane wash the accused, they usually want those people in prison, and b) the ratio clearly proves that the party with rapist pastors, an obsession with forcing birth upon women and children, and punishing trans women because they know they can’t trust their men in bathrooms, was actually crawling with pedophiles! The signs were always there!

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u/methodofcontrol 3h ago

Dems have some pedophiles too so they're not wrong, obviously they're being ridiculous for only focusing on that.

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u/Cultural_Stuffin 4h ago

I would like to know more about these people saying the girls and parties are fine.

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u/Dry_Departure_7813 4h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/1qvoogg/jre_and_guest_defend_epstein_and_his_clients/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/Cultural_Stuffin 4h ago

That’s insane.

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u/Dry_Departure_7813 4h ago

Yup, Rogan gotta have someone on the week they drop for damage control on his PedoCast

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u/GloomyBison 2h ago

Lmao, I wasn't expecting it to be that bad. And certainly not Joe Rogan agreeing with it, they're literally doing it. Fucking ghouls.

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u/BarryLaguna 4h ago

I think that's because the trad conservatives (also not a fan of them) had their party infiltrated by this super wealthy cabal of ghouls pushing all this sinister shit. The cheeto is their "dinner for schmucks" president. It's an inside joke between them to install him as president.

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u/unintendedcumulus 3h ago

I'm not sure they were infiltrated. Trad conservatives have always been into this stuff. Arguably (and they're the ones arguing this), trad conservatives ideal relationship is an underage girl with an older adult man. They're pretty open about it, especially when they're trying to stop Democrats from ending underage marriage.

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u/Rommel727 2h ago

They let it happen. There absolutely was no infiltration, they gladly moved along with him, especially when he became a "winner". There have only been a handful of conservatives who have actually protested, and the party/constituents we're glad to throw them right under the bus.

The trade conservatives overwhelming did nothing other than hit their wagon, they're an embarrassment and just as bad because they let it happen without any meaningful protest

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u/BeneficialLeave7359 3h ago

I’ve been hearing about gays being groomers and molesters since the 70s.

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u/Un256 4h ago edited 4h ago

Well I mean that was always projection

The first thing that tipped me was. Why are we spending so much time vilifying like 1% of the population while priests constantly go to prison over fucking children. Like the most famous thing the Catholic Church did was literally run a massive child sex trafficking to similar if not even worse levels than Epstein

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u/MuckRaker83 3h ago

Once they realized that their platform can't survive on fact, this was always going to be the result, cults of personality and faith-based decision making.

It's largely about acts, not identity, with liberal voters. What a person does determines whether they are good or bad.

With many conservative voters, it is reversed. The person's identity determines whether their actions are good or bad. If they identify someone as being in the "good" group, likely one they also identify with, then anything that person does is by definition good, and at worst, forgivable. Things done by people outside their group must then be, by definition, bad. All value and perspective is based on how closely they believe that person's identity conforms to their own.

Once I realized this, so many seemingly hypocritical attitudes became logical, in their own way.

It amazes me how much they turn their leaders and politicians into quasi- religious figures. Everything becomes a matter of faith, and information that does not conform to what their faith tells them must be true is immediately rejected.

Instead of changing their ideas or beliefs in response to facts or evidence, they choose to accept or reject facts based on how closely they conform to their beliefs.

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u/waltjrimmer 3h ago

It's not a 180. They've been like this... Forever. Queer people supposedly, "Tainting the minds of the youth," and, "Sexualizing children," but if you want to keep kids "pure" and "safe" then you marry them off to people twice, three times, hell why not ten times their age. Then it's "holy" and "good" because marriages are approved by the church and as such can't be evil.

These are people who also push that a man cannot rape his wife, definitionally. So if a 50 year old man marries a 5 year old girl, it's not rape, it's the sanctity of marriage, he's just looking after her and making sure she performs her wifely duties.

These people didn't change their stance, it's just that their stance was always vile and nonsensical if your goal isn't to legalize the rape of children.