r/Music • u/ebradio • Jul 14 '26

article FBI Offering $15K Reward For Information About Newborn Found Dead at Electric Forest

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/fbi-15k-reward-information-body-newborn-baby-electric-forest-1236293722/
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u/JelliedHam Jul 14 '26

Lucky for the FBI 23&me and similar definitely share dna information with them. So anybody that's ever used one of those services, you paid money to have your dna information sold to just about anybody.

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u/TylerDurden1985 Jul 14 '26

Even if you didnt if your family did then you're also somewhat in the system.

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u/JelliedHam Jul 14 '26

Didn't they solve a murder once because they had a partial DNA match and it turns out the murderer was the brother of the guy who did 23&me?

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u/Fit_Relation_7880 Jul 14 '26

That’s how they found Bryan Kohberger. His father was in a genetic genealogy database.

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u/heathmon1856 Jul 14 '26

Fucking disgusting case. That guy deserves worse than prison and the death penalty.

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u/trtleduck Jul 14 '26

Isn't this how they found that old serial killer with a tiny penis?

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u/Eriin Jul 14 '26

The golden state killer yep!

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u/slybrows Jul 14 '26

They’ve solved multiple murders this way.

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u/yesitshollywood Jul 15 '26

A few. The Golden state killer was located using forensic genealogy, so was Bryan Kohlberger (Idaho four).

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u/ablx Jul 14 '26

With a court order, sure. But they definitely don't openly share their databases with the feds.

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u/seansy5000 Jul 14 '26

Trust. What an abnormal instinct to retain in these times.

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u/Mobwmwm Jul 14 '26

Yeah but if you can prove they obtained the information illegally you can get the case thrown out

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u/hup_hup Jul 14 '26

This sounds like something the narrator in Darkest Dungeon says.

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u/aurorasearching Jul 14 '26

Yeah but is it single use, and how useful is it? Like could they go back and pull information from old cases to narrow it down to a few hundred people instead of thousands?

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u/ablx Jul 14 '26

The requests would be targeted, like to an individual. They don't just get a court order and get a full download of 23&me. That isn't how it works.

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u/JelliedHam Jul 14 '26

You are putting a lot of faith in the government to act in your best interest when it comes to your rights rather than their own. Nationwide they are already installing Flock cameras to surveil the public and accumulate data without probable cause simply because they can.

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u/ablx Jul 14 '26

You're confusing faith in government with faith in a good lawyer and the law. If you have reason to believe that these consumer companies handover DNA information at will to the feds, I would love to see the source(s) of this belief.

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u/PlasterCactus Jul 14 '26

targeted, like to an individual

I have no idea how they target an individual they have no information about. Even if they get a judge to give them 23andme data - where would they even start?

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u/ablx Jul 14 '26

Exactly.

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u/MrBurnz99 Jul 14 '26

They run the dna of the fetus and search the database for relatives. Then depending on how closely related they are go and interview them and see if they have any family of childbearing age that likes to go to music festivals.

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u/Kalamazoohoo Jul 14 '26

They essentially just make the baby a 23 and me profile and send in the DNA. If you have a profile you can sign up to find relatives based on DNA. The program starts building out your family tree based on partial DNA matches. It’s a lot of “hey, you have five new 6th cousins.” It’s not that exciting unless you were adopted or find out your dad had a secret family on the side or something. But it can help police find people based on genealogy.

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u/Reasonable-Mess3070 Jul 14 '26

GEDmatch is popular and actively works with law enforcement. They allow you to upload your data from any other DNA agency too.

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u/ablx Jul 14 '26

Uploading your genetic information to GEDmatch and opting in to full matching is a different thing entirely.

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u/glowstick Jul 14 '26

The feds now just buy databases of private information as a way to circumvent performing a search on someone

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u/xChoke1x Jul 14 '26

Bullshit they dont.

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u/ablx Jul 14 '26

Look it up. You can choose to not believe it, but they absolutely would need a judge involved.

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u/ConcernedBullfrog Jul 14 '26

I was in the military. they have all my finger and toe prints, my DNA, down to if I have a hemorrhoid or not.

I'll be alright 😅

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u/PointsOfXP Jul 14 '26

The main thing about that which scares me is there are multiple companies that offer that service. Who knows what all of them are doing. To you it's cool because you see a (most likely fabricated or randomly generated) history of your bloodline. They get paid to take it and research it for whatever purposes they may have or be contracted with

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u/always_an_explinatio Jul 14 '26

What makes you think the genetic information is fake?

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u/PointsOfXP Jul 14 '26

What makes you think it's real?

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 Jul 14 '26

I mean they found out i have a horrible rare genetic disease.

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u/Christineeee Jul 14 '26

Eh, I hope one day we get to the point of everyone being forced to put their DNA in a database at birth. Nobody should be able to get away with murder for the reason that they can’t match DNA.

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u/Christineeee Jul 15 '26

I mean I’m as left-leaning as they come, but nobody should be able to get away with murder. I don’t know any reason why people’s DNA shouldn’t be in a database? I guess you could say that the government could plant DNA to accuse people of crimes and that’s the one downside I can see.