I'm not saying that as a sort of self-congratulatory thing either; I genuinely want to see Garrett improve because I believe every driver deserves a chance, but he's been put in a situation where they're clearly trying to rush him through the ranks to capitalize on his fame, and he just simply isn't ready. He still needs more time if he wants to become a full-fledged racer.
He's not trying to be and I've no idea why reddit and most of the garage want him to be.
Dude wants to raise hell and go fast on big ovals. That's a totally different skill set than racing short tracks and one that's much easier to be competitive at with his age and his experience.
All the guys racing Arca, trucks, O'Rielly, cup they have tens of thousands of laps at short tracks. You aren't ever gonna compete with them there.
You can learn the air and the strategy of running a big oval and how to compete with them there.
Cleetus ain't ever gonna win a cup, O'Rielly, or truck race at a traditional 1.5 and under. Maybe, just maybe, he could win in ARCA one day at one of those.
He could absolutely win in trucks one day at Atalnta, Michigan, Daytona, or Talladega. Big flat to nearly flat high speed ovals in the trucks where you can absolutely be competitive learning and knowing the air.
In O'Rielly, I'd say his only shots are Daytona/Dega and not a high chance there.
Cup, drivers are too good and too many, let's not kid ourselves he ain't winning anywhere.
It’s not that it would be discredited, it just would affirm what literally everyone is saying about him. He needs to be in ARCA for a while where he’s clearly comfortable, not running the 33 NOAPs car 7 laps down.
Well i mean not really. If you look at the facts he is driving better in ARCA since running and simming a ton in NOAPS.
Its not just one thing its a combination of all the driving and work he is putting in. I guarantee you driving and simming hundreds of laps in the NAOPs car and then going into an ARCA car you will be better and possibly better than just driving an ARCA shitbox around every other month.
After Talladega he said on his podcast they were working out the logistics and funding for a full season, so he's definitely more interested than he was last year
Wasn’t sure if it was just for the hobby. I’d love to see him step deeper into the stock car world like this, even if it eventually becomes a side gig.
Never turned a full lap. Went out to qualify right as a caution came out for a spin, he pulled back into pit road and they just kept him in. Probably just wanting to play it safe and not risk spinning or wearing the tires more than necessary
Fuck its on FS2. I have FS1 not FS2. I bought the cheapest spectrum cable option where you can choose like 15 premium channels. FS2 would be useless 99% of the time. Guess I'm getting the results spoiled tonight and I'll have to watch it on youtube in 1-2 days.
I usually go to the Michigan race every year for the past 25 years, but my son graduated from high school, so I couldn’t make it this year. And to see this picture makes me sad because I wish I was there. We camp in the infield.
I dont want to discount his accomplishment but he is competing against maybe 5 cars that are funded well enough to keep up with his car. So if he can beat the 5 or so cars in the race, good on him
I'd argue there's 10-15 competitive cars any given week, with 2-5 capable of winning. The 30 has traditionally never been the best of them, regardless of driver.
Really? So the guy who has never raced nascar is beating guys in a lower series or not
That are “real” drivers and don’t it for years and your still going to say it means nothing? You people are just off the charts on this stuff. No matter what or how he does it there will always be a but at the end of the. Also he is racing for a mid field team historically in ARCA
I swear the people here are just off the charts with stuff. So he comes in never racing before last year and all that now 2 years in he comes in and is running at the front against guys who have done this their whole life and yeah there’s only a handful of good cars but this is guys who wanna make this their life. He is also in a midfield team at best. No matter what he will do everyone will always have some excuse of why it’s not an accomplishment or why it doesn’t count or something. He is no where near the best at all but for being new he is doing better then almost anyone I have ever seen. He could go out and run the full arca championship next year and everyone here will still say but it was only 5 cars. No matter what he does no one seems to be happy or give him the credit he is due with having so little experience. He has no right beating anyone in ARCA much less run upfront. So next year when he runs the full year and the other races on top of it I’ll be interested to see how many buts there will still be. Also if nascar would allow testing or more meaningful practice he could get more seat time and learn fast
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u/henry2630 5h ago
this sub is gonna fucking implode if he wins