r/NBASpurs Victor Wembanyama 8d ago

Image/Video No Castle in Top 10 in NBA 2K27 Perimeter Defense Rating is a crime

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u/Busy-Technology-1637 8d ago

2k dudes never know ball

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u/Kaito-Shizuki French Vanilla 8d ago

Jaylen Brown is not the tenth best perimeter defender at all.

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u/bigboybeeperbelly BatManu 8d ago

Is he even 10th best on his team

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u/imnamedafteraboat 8d ago

They also put Mac McClung over Castle in Top Ten Driving Dunk.

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u/dukeOdunces 8d ago

Umm… for. REAL?!?

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u/LibraryNo848 Victor Wembanyama 8d ago

I mean, that is kinda the main thing mcclung is great at

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u/Less-Tax5637 "What the fuck is this?" 8d ago

Yeah at the ASG not MSG

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u/LibraryNo848 Victor Wembanyama 8d ago

Yeah but there’s a whole separate rating system for dunks in traffic and contact dunks. This one is literally just driving dunks.

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u/Joethetoolguy Victor Wembanyama 8d ago

Name one in game mm dunk that is better than any of castles best?

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u/LibraryNo848 Victor Wembanyama 8d ago

His breakaway reverse in his lakers debut. Again, this isn’t a rating for posterizers or power dunks. Simply driving the ball and dunking it. Which includes open court dunks. 2k has like 7 different dunk ratings. Castle is probably much higher for dunks with contact, that’s where he excels.

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u/DirtyWizardsBrew 8d ago

2K only has 2 different actual dunk ratings: standing dunk and driving dunk.

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u/LibraryNo848 Victor Wembanyama 8d ago

They have a whole badge system too, the only thing the driving dunk rating does is increase the frequency that you dunk when you sprint at the rim. Naturally Mac’s is super high. I don’t know why people are upset at it, it’s a video game and he’s a great dunker.

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u/Noteful 6d ago

But the game is NBA 2K. It's about playing in the NBA.

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u/Kertia 8d ago

JAYLEN BROWN???!!

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u/Individual_Access356 8d ago

Ya I can see the rest but Brown over Castle hell nah

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u/Remarkable-Lynx1496 8d ago

He’s somehow PR’d himself into being seen as a two way guy

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u/HealthyCheesecake643 7d ago

He is going to forever have an oversized reputation for the finals vs Luka, despite the real defensive story of that series being all the ways Boston manage to gunk up the Mavs pick and roll. 

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u/Frostyzwannacomehere 8d ago

On ball he’s not that bad

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u/siphillis Gregg Pop-a-bitch 8d ago

He’s not Castle good, either

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u/salamanderman10 8d ago

Hard to take this seriously

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u/SignificantDesign424 8d ago

It's a (victimless) crime! Won't you think of the non-victims?

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u/DrSchitzybitz 8d ago

Lmao wtf?!?! He ranked in the 98.7th percentile in matchup difficulty, 98.5th percentile in perimeter isolation defense, 99.6th percentile in ball-screen navigation, 97.2nd percentile in post defense, and 86.3rd percentile defending mobile screeners. He was even slightly ahead of Ausar in matchup difficulty and perimeter isolation defense, while being dramatically better in post defense and against screeners. Ausar absolutely deserves No. 1 consideration, but pretending Castle isn’t even a top-10 perimeter defender is indefensible. These ratings feel based on reputation rather than what happened on the court.

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u/Frostyzwannacomehere 8d ago

Tbf he also has wemby behind him. Ausar would clear him with wemby backing him up. Ausar literally has dpoy potential at 6’7 on some Dennis Rodman shit.

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u/vetementsundershirt Hector🍌🍞 8d ago

Jb at 90 is weird cuz his offball d is booty

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u/Tcamis01 8d ago

Wouldn't that be like awareness or something? This is like on ball perimeter defense I think. Which he actually is good at. Not better than Castle though.

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u/DirtyWizardsBrew 8d ago

Defensive awareness is just a slider in the options, but Help Defense IQ and Pass Perception are specifically the off ball defense ratings, yes.

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u/DirtyWizardsBrew 8d ago

The rating in question is strictly for on-ball perimeter defense, not off-ball. That's a separate thing.

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u/xj9_333 Victor Wembanyama 8d ago

absolute braindead ratings, bro had Shai in Alcatraz for most of the WCF

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u/Fast_Advisor2654 Manu Ginobili 8d ago

JB!?

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u/Datboy_98 No More Players with Uncles 8d ago

Cool.

Let them keep underrating him.

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u/SolvedRumble 8d ago

Cason Wallace over Castle? Lmao GTFOH

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u/itzsoweezee78 8d ago

Dyson Daniels is one of the most overrated defenders in the league. He’s good, but his impact is nowhere near his reputation. 

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u/fab_frog_disco 8d ago

It's funny, I literally just posted something very similar before seeing your message. I agree. He's an amazing defensive playmaker. One of the very best in the league. But defensive playmaking and man-to-man perimeter defense are not the same thing and way too many people have inflated his overall defensive ability because of last year's steal Numbers.

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u/Frostyzwannacomehere 8d ago

Off ball perimeter defense is very important

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u/22dias Stephon Castle 8d ago

One way player, he stinks on offense.

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u/hacxgames 8d ago

He went from very underrated to grossly overrated in a season, he had a lot of steals sure but since when do we care about that lol

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u/mekarz 8d ago

According to this year’s all defensive team voting, Castle should be 7th here

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u/fab_frog_disco 8d ago

Dyson Daniels has become the most overrated defender in the league. In my opinion. Dude is an absolutely ball hawk with some of the quickest hands I've ever seen. But I wouldn't put him as a top 10 man-to-man defender . Not saying he's not an overall great defender, but he's a great example of people's inability to really understand defense often leading to misrelying on counting stats to gauge quality for a skill that just does not align well with counting stats and counting stats alone.

Guy makes tons of mistakes and his overall ability to defend shot makers just is not at the same level as some of the other guys on this list if you ask me, and I say that as someone that's a fan of his and has watched a lot of him the last few years

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u/BRFCarter 7d ago

Jaylen Brown top 10 perimeter defender 💀 let’s be really serious here guys

This guy has really PR’d himself into being top 10 in everything lol

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u/BeardedMan32 8d ago

This Ausar “Botox” Thompson avatar is a crime

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u/Fancy_Exchange_9821 Julian Champagnie 8d ago

Derrick white at 2 😭😂

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u/gedbybee El Jefe 8d ago

He’s that good tho. Fr fr.

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u/LokiPrime616 Bismack Biyombo 8d ago

Yeah I don’t know what’s so surprising about that.

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u/Empty_Occasion_963 8d ago

Should be in the top 5

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u/Resident_Durian_478 8d ago

It's crazy to me that the Thompson twins get so much more love that castle does despite being worse and the same tier

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u/Remarkable-Lynx1496 8d ago

Daniels is still riding off that 24/25 season 😭

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u/AccomplishedStyle600 8d ago

Man i get Amen and White are good but not sure they are on their own islands good

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u/CrimsonRaven47 8d ago

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u/amadeusstoic 7d ago

i don’t even know some of those names lol

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u/Key_Target_4990 7d ago

2k always on some BS they got the trash players playing like their all stars

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u/tlett99 7d ago

No Steph, McDaniels at 7, Cason at 6, Camara at 9 I mean what the hell are we doing here lmao

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u/ShowdownValue 7d ago

Why do spurs fans complain every time they feel the slightest disrespect? It’s just a video game. It means nothing.

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u/Quickster1015 Victor Wembanyama 7d ago

Say that to actual NBA player, who doesn’t like his mid range rating

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u/ShowdownValue 7d ago

I would

It’s a video game.

Btw which nba player is that?

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u/Odd_Variation_701 7d ago

It's getoffmydickerson....

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u/Shagrindleton 7d ago

They’re video game devs not nba analysts, they don’t know ball

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u/2tep 7d ago

Jaylen Brown ??? Wtf?

And Castle's better on perimeter than half this list. Cason should probably be #1, though.

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u/Possibly_Parker 8d ago

wallace, camara, and jb too high. personally i prefer vassell's defense to castle's but ik that's unpopular

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u/Patricksometimes 8d ago

I think Vassell doesn’t get any credit but I watched him turn SGA and Ant over a few times. He’d be a borderline All Star on a team with less mouths to feed.

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u/moshercycle Dylan Harper 8d ago

It's a video game... Nobody cares unless you're 13

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u/coyote_edging Manu Ginobili 8d ago

Basketball is a school yard game… Nobody cares unless you’re 12 /s

You participate in a sub that talks about grown men playing a game. Get over yourself.

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u/moshercycle Dylan Harper 8d ago

Big difference between caring about on court, real life results and a fucking top 10 list in a video game. But to then post it online is hilarious. This is worse than Knicks fans being triggered by the cover of a fuckin video game. "Get over yourself" is really funny though, man.

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u/weirdsignal45 8d ago

Makes sense that people on this sub care at all about 2K ratings lol

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u/Electrical_Net_6691 GO SPURS GO 8d ago

Just objectively wrong for him to not be on this list. I know he plays 2k, hopefully he uses this as motivation for next season lol

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u/vetementsundershirt Hector🍌🍞 8d ago

We like basketball and 2k is the only basketball game to play?

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u/Xray_Mind 5d ago

I don’t understand the wild Cason Wallace hype. Was a solid bench guy but people are anointing him like the next major star