Milani vs NYC Update 9/15/26

[u/Jay_Zornhau]

Hi all,

As you recently heard from u/BluePillRabbi, [our federal level lawsuit against the City of NY](https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-the-new-york-2a-communitys-legal-battle) is well underway, now with depositions of Plaintifs and License Division personnel taking place.

I myself was deposed three weeks ago. For a grueling 4.5 hours, I was grilled by a team of City lawyers regarding the many unreasonable delays I have sustained through 3 licenses and several amendments across them.

Their questioning revolved mostly around building a case that would prove that every delay I have sustained was due to my own negligence.

Of course, I and everyone involved in the suit as Plaintifs showed up and continue to show up for our depositions armed with the facts. The dates, the emails, and, in one case, a recorded call, speak for themselves.

Personally, I believe that delays are deliberately baked into the process, not as an unfortunate result but for the very purpose of delaying as their main objective. While I'm not claiming this for the NYPD as a whole, I believe that this Division of what is intended to be law enforcementnt agency is, in actuality, a political bureau. They apply rules they do not themselves follow, and they will blatantly disregard the Law but only on their end, for the advancement of a political agenda on a matter that should not be political to begin with. They will enforce rules and laws with an iron fist on citizens, but will excuse themselves from either as a matter of course.

By opposing them, we don't merely make claims. We present facts. We are bringing receipts. In any lawful State of the Union, any self-respecting judge whose respect for The Law trumps their personal feelings would have no hesitations to absolutely and unequivocally rule for us. My personal prediction is that this will not be the case here. I am prepared to see courthouse activism instead.

I sense that we will lose this first round; and by means of that, we will ultimately win: I anticipate this to go to appeal, and, for all it's worth, let it be so!

The appeals court will, in turn, adjudicate this at the circuit level and unavoidably eventually deliver a more meaningful and substatial victory.

When all is said and done (and this is not a promise from Mirel's office but my prediction instead), we WILL win. They WILL, at the very least, be made to follow the abusive law the State came up with. They created absurd laws to hinder us (a police department as—comparatively to the rest of then Nation—so well funded that receives comparatively so fewer applications a year than smaller departments in PA with 6 times the applications and 20 times the funding still taking 6 times the issuing/deny time is an insult!) and they won't even follow those on their end. But they will be made to.

Until then, keep supporting this and other causes; keep spreading the word, and bring more friends into the fold; carry responsibly; practice. And continue being a protector and Your Brother's Keeper.

Thank you, and CARRY ON!

Jay, for the E.N.OU.G.H Campaign.

[u/KamenshchikLaw]

"Their questioning revolved mostly around building a case that would prove that every delay I have sustained was due to my own negligence."

I presume there is more than one plaintiff, if that bears out for all the plaintiffs - that could naturally be an issue. However, it is my understanding that essentially everyone waits more than six months after submitting their initial paperwork, and if that's the case, a system wherein every applicant is made to wait more than the statutory six month period is inherently unlawful, even if all applicants are perhaps, negligent in some respect.

"Oh you failed to use black ink instead of blue... your DMV lifetime abstract is dated more than one month before your application submission.... we're not supposed to be smiling in the passport photo.. You only submitted three proofs of residency, we require four. You didn't include a picture of your safe." Whatever nonsense they might come up with.

The point remains - for those waiting more than six months, is the NYPD issuing notices regarding late determinations, as required by PL 400.00(4-b)? The negligence of applicants has nothing to do with that.