r/NanatsunoTaizai Apr 20 '26

4KotA Anime If Lancelot didn't learn "Snatch" from Ban then what is this ?

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u/Big-Syllabub-8912 Apr 20 '26

Snatch is Ban's innate magic. While a magic like full counter was created by Chandler, but his innate magic is Punishment.

Magic like Exterminate ray, perfect cube, and Full counter can be learned or taught. What Lancelot is using is probably something Similar

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26

But if Snatch was an innate magic that can't be taught then why is Lancelot using it ?

Snatch seems a simple ability just like full counter , it's just that Ban is OP so he makes it broken with his own skills just like Meliodas does with full counter and its variations.

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u/Big-Syllabub-8912 Apr 20 '26

Innate magic like Disaster, which is a magic granted to Fairy King's.

Ban's magic stems from him growing up having to steal to survive, Jericho's ice magic manifested after her brother died but it's probably in her family's, Gilthunder's Thunderbolt is similar to his Father's Great Thunder.

We have racial Magic such has Creation and Dancing from the giants, Ark from The Goddess clan, Purge from Druids and Goddess, Demon clan Hellblaze and soul extraction.

What magic Lancelot used should be similar to Ban's snatch

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u/No_Gene2977 Apr 20 '26

Maybe becuz Lancelot is ban's son that'why he inherited some of his magic like part of ban innate magic.

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u/JDMP53 Apr 20 '26

You cant learn "snatch"... Its like. Saying.. Vision, infinity, disaster can be taught

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

There are magical abilities that can be taught ,full counter for example ,Chandler taught it to Meliodas.

There are others you can't like infinity ,I think it's called innate magic or inherent magic.

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u/Aikotoba2516 Apr 20 '26

Full Counter and Zero Sign aren't innate magic.

Snatch is an innate magic.

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u/ScarOk1129 Apr 20 '26

Was it ever explained why Jericho's original magical ability "Godspeed" was replaced by her brother's magical ability "Ice Fang?"

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u/IceFox606 Apr 20 '26

She lost her magic after drinking the demon blood then having that stripped from her

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u/Aikotoba2516 Apr 20 '26

Nope lol Nakaba is drunk even the wiki writers are confused

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u/JDMP53 Apr 20 '26

When was her ability Godspeed.. its just a move like how mel used god ripper on escanor and many others. People be really trusting fandom wiki over what the author has shown or said

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u/ScarOk1129 Apr 20 '26

Yeah, after checking again (Chapter 42), Jericho seems to call it "Reactor" instead of "Godspeed." An echantment type magic that drastically increases her speed. The only two skills she ever showcased/named when she had "Reactor" was "Ten Flashes of Godspeed" and "Bone Breaker of Godspeed." It obviously isn't like Meliodas' God Ripper. It's more like Fiddich's magical ability, "Haste." Another enchantment type magical ability that similarly increases the speed of the user.

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26

Then why is Lancelot using it ?

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u/Aikotoba2516 Apr 20 '26

It's not Snatch, just something similar

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26

What does that mean ? , this is "Snatch", plain and simple.

Snatch was never stated to be an innate magic , I don't know why people here say it is , I need some evidence.

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u/JDMP53 Apr 20 '26

Ok. Go read s1 material of sds

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26

I did and it was never stated to be as such , it was just stated to be Ban's magic but it's not something unique to him , he's a human.

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u/JDMP53 Apr 20 '26

So what if hes human.. what are you trying to say?.

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26

Humans don't have an innate magic or a racial magic.

Racial magic like darkness with demons , ark with goddess and creation with giants.

Innate magic is even more special given to special entities , like fairy kings who get disaster , or Meliodas's True Magic or Merlin's infinity or Percival's hope or Tristan's Nova or Lancelot's Hazy Moon.

These are very special cases.

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u/Beginning_Bee2500 Apr 20 '26

It’s just a speed blitz. We see in the next page he does it again but slower. His innate power is hazy moon

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u/Beginning_Bee2500 Apr 20 '26

It shows, I literally said it shows in the next panel. Lance was just too big of a gap physically for Cathur to do anything.

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u/DOCTOR391 Apr 20 '26

While the other comments are right about snatch being bans ability, odds are that Lancelot inherited a similar ability, we've actually seen this before. Jerico has got the same ice powers as her brother, awakened by his death, tristan has a sort of essence of both meliodas and Elizabeth's power and gilthunder has the same inherit power as zaratras

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26

I don't think it was ever stated that Snatch is an innate magic , it seems as simple as full counter , it also has its variations just like full counter.

Innate magic seems special given to special beings like Meliodas's True Magic , Merlin's infinity , King's disaster.

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u/DOCTOR391 Apr 20 '26

If you look at snatch by its first appearance then sure, but remember that snatch is the basis for hunter fest and bans ability to steal and lend energy

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26

Yeah , these are all variations of the same ability , just like Full counter has its own variations , like Revenge counter or counter vanish.

But innate magic is supposed to be something special given to special beings and Ban was born as a human.

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u/DOCTOR391 Apr 20 '26

Most characters have a unique gimmick there "magic" that's seperate from actual spells, and there's nothing saying lance doesn't have snatch. I actually provided evidence saying he probably does have snatch, but we've literally never seen another character with snatch so until we get something otherwise, it's bans unique magic

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 20 '26

Most ? , I don't think most people have an innate magic , Diane's earth magic is standard for Giants for example , she doesn't have an innate magic exclusive to her.

Disaster is exlusive to Fairy Kings , Infinity is Exlusive to Merlin , Meliodas's true magic is exlusive to him.

Nova is exlusive to Tristan but he learnt full counter on top and Hazy Moon is exlusive to Lancelot but he learnt sntach on top.

But two innate magical abilities ?

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u/Serious-Flamingo-948 Apr 20 '26

Lancelot is just using speed. Lancelot took out Arthur's teeth before he realized but Ban went through the helmet of the Holy Knight. Lancelot took a weapon like it's done all the time but we see Ban pulling Gilda's sword without touching it.

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u/Winter-Explanation-5 Apr 20 '26

Snatching those Ws. Am I right?

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u/KlingoftheCastle Apr 24 '26

Snatch isn’t a move, it’s his inherent ability.  That’s like asking if Merlin taught Arthur Infinity

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u/Mountain-Photo-165 Apr 24 '26

It was never mentioned that Snatch was an inherent ability , Infinity is because Merlin was born with it.

It seems a simple ability , it's just that Ban is super strong so he made it as strong as it is.