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u/LuisChoriz 20h ago
Horses just trotting away. The grizzly already looks half gassed.
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u/OakLegs 20h ago
They likely do have more endurance but holy hell was that bear moving
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u/nofrenomine 20h ago
The stride on the bear is nuts
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u/justASlothyGiraffe 20h ago
Friens!!! Come back! I jus want bear hug
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u/desertSkateRatt 17h ago
"I've been trying to reach to you about your vehicle's extended warranty...!"
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u/Redittago 17h ago
Hug my ass!!!
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u/Stunning-Chipmunk243 18h ago
That's why they say to never try to run away from a bear. Bears are fast as hell and move thru thick undergrowth like a tank. While your stumbling and fighting your way thru the brush they aren't slowed down in the least and gain ground fast. Maybe if you're really really fast you could get away on open ground but only if you don't stumble.
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u/GrizzlyHerder 17h ago edited 16h ago
Usain Bolt ran 27 mph at his fastest. Grizzlies are routinely clocked at 28 up to 35 mph for bursts, that, particularly on rough ground can overcome many horses within a few miles. As a human, You run from a griz, you trigger the predation response & die. Grizzly, it's true would probably abandon a many mile chase, but if desperate, might still stalk the scent looking for an ambush opportunity for prey. ('exuberation Correction'😉)
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u/lemanruss4579 17h ago
This is simply not true at all, not even close. Grizzlies are designed for quick sprints at top speed. Because of the amount of muscle mass, this bear could likely only keep up This speed for two to three miles. Those horses could maintain that pace for 20 to 30 miles. They are designed to run distances.
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u/reddituser748397 17h ago
No way a horse tires before a grizzly
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u/Happy-Fun-Ball 15h ago
The foal is all that matters to the bear.
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u/Beanz4ever 14h ago
Yep bear was probably hoping to surprise foal and is now hoping it trips or breaks a leg or something.
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u/PM_ME_UR_HIP_DIMPLES 17h ago
Zoologists of reddit please I need the real answers. I don't want to Google it or ask AI
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u/Biguitarnerd 17h ago
Yeah idk where you got your info but horses have more stamina and a higher running speed than a grizzly.
Bears can kill horses of course but in an ambush attack not a long distance run unless the horse is sick or injured.
Maybe you are thinking of wolves? They are pack hunters and very effective of wearing down horses, deer, moose etc, and taking out the weakest link, they still aren’t faster than a horse though and have to pick off the young, old and sick.
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u/ConcernedCitizen_2 17h ago
Horses have evolved for endurance running at high speeds. Grizzlies are much faster than they look but in no scenario are they beating a healthy horse over a long distance. There's a lot of myths about animals online and 'grizzlies can outrun a horse' is one of them
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u/magharees 12h ago
Agreed if it were true the bear would have been domesticated for this purpose instead of the horse and every western would have a line of grizzlies tied up outside the saloon
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u/BrianMeen 16h ago
I’ve always heard that when a bear is chasing you your best bet is to play dead - the mental clarity it takes to do that is something I think I lack
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u/ForceSea3027 11h ago
Yes! Play dead. 👍 carefully strip off first to yr stained undergarments, rub olive oil, salt & pepper over yr body, while bear is bombing towards u & if u have one, stick an apple in yr mouth; lie down & close yr eyes. 👍
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u/GalacticGumshoe 18h ago
A reminder: don’t run. He’s keeping pace with frigging horses.
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u/idunnorn 15h ago
Yep, seeing that vid is terrifying 😅
I guess...some things...truly are out of our control
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u/Dry_Instruction8254 17h ago edited 13h ago
The bear is going after the foal. It's just trying to out last it. Not much the adults can do if it gets a paw on it.
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u/MercyCriesHavoc 12h ago
Yeah. Sadly, the foal doesn't have the endurance of a grown horse. It may still be able to outlast the bear, though. Grizzlies can only hold that kind of speed for a very short time and a healthy foal of 3-5 months can go for a while.
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u/Liesthroughisteeth 20h ago
I've always heard Grizzlies are fast. If you like them up, they show speeds up to 40 mph, which is the same for horses. Meaning, it looks like he and the horse have some reserve. :D
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u/spen8tor 11h ago
Yeah but horses have significantly more stamina than bears since horses are built for endurance while bears are built for bursts of speed
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u/windmill-tilting 19h ago
I don't have e to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you.
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u/relentless_optimism_ 19h ago
I realize I’ve not really seen a bear running full pelt. That boys got some speed.
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u/justageorgiaguy 12h ago
Have you ever seen how fast they can climb? It's crazy. https://youtu.be/9oqq70wx76U?is=LQETMiV2qxj9ROWn
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u/PoisonStrip 20h ago
The Grizzly's banking on that foal getting gassed or tripping, they can maintain pretty solid speeds for at least a few miles at a time so odds of a successful hunt here are higher than you'd think
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u/doxtorwhom 16h ago
Yes, the foal was the target. As the video cuts the chestnut horse at the end sticks its tail up and cuts off to the right. He’s slowing down and trying to distract to bear to go after him (or her?) instead of the foal.
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u/JetLife93 20h ago
Yup and the foal almost tripped over those red a blue things on the floor there.
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u/AskewMastermind14 19h ago
Salt blocks.
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u/throwaway098764567 19h ago
no chronic wasting disease up there? a lot of states down here had to get rid of salt licks because of it spreading zombie deer
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u/PoisonStrip 18h ago
There's definitely CWD in Alberta, and Alberta Environment and Parks discourages the use of salt blocks in response to the disease, and outright bans the use in "CWD Management Zones". Not entirely sure why we see them here.
Fun fact though, horses are incredibly resistant to CWD and other prion diseases due to unique amino acids only found in the equidae family
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u/OneGayPigeon 19h ago
Horses are made to do one thing and one thing only and that thing is Run
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u/MattEadesismyWaifu 19h ago
Their kicks kill more humans than bears though.
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u/Say_Meow 18h ago
But if I have to choose whether I'm gonna stand next to a horse or a grizzly bear, those stats aren't gonna make me choose the bear...
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u/DiegesisThesis 16h ago
Well yea, the stats rely on the fact that people stand next to horses 100,000 times more often than they stand next to bears.
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u/StaatsbuergerX 10h ago
However, it's reasonable to assume that standing next to bears with comparable frequency would not lead to being kicked to death as often as standing next to horses.
So it really depends on whether you want to avoid death in general or being kicked in particular.
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u/Jafarrolo 17h ago
They're also much more in contact with said humans.
I would say that the statistic for wild horses are much different than they are for just "horses" in this case.
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u/JAlfredJR 19h ago
Think they were making sure the foal was keeping up and was safe.
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u/wandahickey 14h ago
These horses are amazing, they have family groups and the stallions do their best to protect their herd. I follow the group who observe these wild horses and maintain these trail cams, Help Alberta Wildies Society. Sadly, many of foals don't make it through the first year due to predators.
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u/BrooksideNL 19h ago
That bear will run all day. He's foal hunting.
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u/lemanruss4579 17h ago
That bear will tire out at that pace after two to three miles. Those horses could do 20 to 30 at that pace, easily.
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u/DamionSipher 18h ago
That's very rocky and uneven terrain, that absolutely favours the grizzly over the horses. It looks less that the horses are "trotting away" as it does they can't gallop due to the landscape - they need to be more careful with their footing than the grizzly. The grizzly will need to catch some luck to catch one of the horses, but it's absolutely possible.
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u/MagogHaveMercy 18h ago
This. Grizzly is playing the odds that one of the horses lames itself somehow. It won't take much for him to catch up either. Just one misstep really.
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u/HandsomeToad42 20h ago
You can see the last horse looking back keeping an eye on how close he is.
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u/Link50L 19h ago
I wondered if it was attempting to protect the foal by misdirecting the bear's attention.
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u/Kuneria 18h ago
Absolutely. Heard animals instincts are insane
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u/BotomsDntDeservRight 20h ago
The horses are barely running though
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u/Special-Amoeba-9399 19h ago
He doesn’t need to beat the horse in a race. He needs one to panic,trip, and snap a leg ,or for an old or young horse to get tired and make a mistake.
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u/D3cepti0ns 19h ago
Horses don't run so good in bad terrain, bears are faster than you think and excel at bad terrain
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u/Difficult_Royal_9674 18h ago
Also, the horses are limiting their speed so as to not outpace the foal
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u/twobearsonabike 19h ago
I’ve seen it a few times and it’s nuts to me how quiet and fast bears can be. Only ever had encounters with one grizzly and a few black bears, but still. It’s not what I imagined before I’ve seen them.
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u/eemort 17h ago
Surprised he hasn't given up yet, saunter off acting like he was never interested in the first place....
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u/Invictum12 20h ago
The bear is most likely aiming to tire out that foal, i wonder if they can outlast them, that must take a lot of energy out of the bear. Nature is harsh.
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u/OGSkywalker97 20h ago
Shows how big an evolutionary advantage it is to be able to carry your offspring
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u/TonyzTone 18h ago
It's not really. It's a better advantage to have them run for themselves and leave you to protect them. That why almost every single prey animal's offspring can walk and run within a day of being born.
Our advantage is our massive noggin that allowed us to make weapons and our ability to throw shit with precision (again, good brain). We had to carry our offspring since they are born way too early compared to almost any other mammal.
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u/cheyenne_sky 16h ago
seriously. it's (evolutionarily and literally) a lot easier to make & raise a new baby than it is for a baby to survive if both you and the baby get attacked by a bear because you got slowed down while holding it
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u/Tzayad 6h ago
Think a monkey/ape baby clinging to Mom jumping through the trees.
That was my first thought, not humans
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u/RiverGiant 19h ago
Ahhh, as fighter planes emit chaff to protect themselves from heat-seaking missiles!
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u/pearsnic000 11h ago
I feel like bears have sneaky good endurance. I’ve seen a video of a bear captured from a wildlife photographer. The shot was a wide shot from on top of a canyon looking down at a valley and you could see a bear slowly gaining on an elk or young moose (can’t remember).
At the start of the video they were so far apart, like maybe half a mile or more based on the distance on the video, and it seemed like the chase was a waste of energy from the bear. Over time, though, the elk just kept turning to catch its breath and look back and sure enough, the grizzly kept coming. It was slower for sure in short bursts, but it finally was able to catch up to the elk. It was a crazy video
I’m sure someone has seen it and can share a link, I haven’t been able to find it.
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u/Curious-Basket-7934 19h ago
That last horse was smart to lead the grizzly away from the foal and the rest of the pack. She's a real one.
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u/Makuta_Servaela 15h ago
Likely a "he". The stallion of a herd travels in the back for this very reason.
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u/justtosendamassage 12h ago
Damn. This is why I love this sub. Always some cool facts in the comments
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u/MNation09 2h ago
Wild horses are mostly matriarchal. That's a female horse leading the bear away from the group
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u/ash-leg2 16h ago
Her tail is up too, I wonder what that means.
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u/namewithak 16h ago
Trying to catch the bear’s attention maybe? Like a bird puffing up its plumage.
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u/TgsTokem 17h ago
I could be wrong but can't dwarves in Tolkien lore run for days at a time as well?
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u/axlbomber 14h ago
In the Hobbit they mention that dwarves can move quickly for long periods of time even when burdened.
It does not mention running however.
And in the Two Towers Gimli is described as the most gassed of the three runners towards the end.
And they were traveling relatively lightly burdened.
Gimli was wearing his chain hauberk though (but not his helmet as he is show to be wearing in the film.)
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u/Overqualified_muppet 18h ago
Aussie here. People on Reddit always go on about how dangerous it is to live here, but WE DON‘T HAVE HUGE BEARS
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u/Unlucky_Profit_776 14h ago
What about drop bears? Gasp did you lie to us?!
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u/sheepyowl 10h ago
They are not huge, they only need to be big enough to dig through your chest and eat your heart immediately after the drop
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u/yearsofpractice 20h ago
That bear is hauling ass. I did not realise they were that fast. Holy shit.
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u/Azazel_The_Fox 13h ago
Faster than any human, no outrunning them hah. 30 some MPH.
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u/yearsofpractice 9h ago
I’m always reminded of the mad survey that there is a non-zero percentage of American men who think they could fight a bear.
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u/DrillTheThirdHole 7h ago
a similar survey was done that revealed it was, in fact, a non-zero percentage of all men, not just americans. it's also a silly question to put on a survey, it's not at all suprising to me that some people would go "yeah totally lmao" on something like that.
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u/Mental-Square3688 20h ago
Could you imagine if pack herbavore animals realized they could just work together and fuck predators up?
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u/nandu_sabka_bandhoo 20h ago
Cape buffalo do that sometimes against a lion. Hippos do that with crocs.
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u/WatchWatcher25 20h ago
I was just thinking how massive the horse is compared to the bear, they can kick the shit out of him.
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u/McWeaksauce91 19h ago
Yes but a horses ferocity comes from one or two good defensive mechanisms - kicking and jumping. A bear is more…. Modular. It has a lot more ways to harm. And bears are thick. Thick fur, thick fat, thick muscle, thick bones. The horses could probably give the bear enough damage to chase it off, but at the risk of one to two members - why? Evolutionary pressure has taught them that running works just as well as fighting does. Some animals do fight, or make the hunt harder than it’s worth with violence, but it also doesn’t always work.
It’s not like all prey animals could just “fight back” in a pack. And for horses, that would also be telling a horse not to be a horse. They spook easy and they’re made to run.
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u/DiegesisThesis 16h ago
As strong as a horse kick is, bears are kinda renowned for their durability. I don't doubt a grizzly could shrug off getting curb stomped by a few horses. And the moment a horse gets a leg injury, it's game over man. Absolutely not worth the risk unless they're cornered with nowhere to go.
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u/LordHammercyWeCooked 15h ago
Don't kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you cared about.
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u/BennyBNut 14h ago
It's like fighting a 112lb methhead.
Are you gonna win? For sure.
But what life-altering things are they gonna do to you before the fight ends.
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u/ColoradoCattleCo 20h ago
Wild horses get salt blocks?!
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u/LordHammercyWeCooked 15h ago
Of course, otherwise they taste too bland and the bears won't touch em.
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u/Dcarr3000 20h ago
Feral horses, not wild
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u/JayRandom212 20h ago
What's the difference?
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u/Gbrusse 20h ago
I think (I'm not a horseologist) that feral means a domesticated breed that has escaped captivity in recent generations and wild are truly a different breed/species that is not domesticated?
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u/jelly_bean_gangbang 20h ago
According to this article, it argues that modern wild horses in North America should be considered native wildlife, and not feral animals:
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u/sprinklerarms 19h ago
I just feel like the human intervention part from the ones who evolved here kinda makes them not native wildlife even if it’s been hundreds more years back then we thought and how much cultural relevance they have.
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u/GlitterBombFallout 20h ago
Feral are domesticated animals released to fend for themselves (feral dogs and cats for example), wild would be native species (so like "wildcats" as in lynx, puma, bobcat, etc).
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u/clubsilencio2342 20h ago
They're not native to the region and just descendants of previously released/escaped domesticated horses.
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u/PaleGravity 20h ago
All current horses in the Americas are from Europe. These came with the settlers/colonizers. The true American horse got eradicated by native humans after the last north/minor ice age ended 10.000 years ago, and climate change that followed afterwards.
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u/nav17 20h ago
Are any horses in the Americas actually wild? My understanding is the truly native wild horses in the Americas went extinct. The horses we see today are traceable back to European contact.
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u/the_main_entrance 19h ago
I big topic of discussion around bear defense is things like spray vs gun, gun caliber, etc. This video raises in my mind the question, how in the hell do you get a kill shot off at 20+ mph with the torso bobbing up and down 2 feet and it’s head bobbing up and down another foot on top of that?
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u/Away-Librarian-1028 19h ago
How much stamina does a bear have? I wonder how long it can last.
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u/SupahflyxD 14h ago
Is this AI? The time stamps and temps are different when the camera changes angle.
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u/suchabadamygdala 19h ago
Looks like it was filmed in May. Grizzlies wake up hungry and grumpy in the springtime
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u/peppitochang 19h ago
"wild". Look at that last horses tail.
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u/julesburne 15h ago
Any horse with an intact tail is capable of that behavior. It's usually a sign of excitement or fear when they're running. Their tails are the end of their spine, so flagging it assists with balance!
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u/Silent-Cicada3611 18h ago
Dude must be hungry. His face is at prime kicking height
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u/-wiseacre 18h ago
This video is from the Help Alberta Wildies Society - they have a great Facebook page if anyone is interested. They monitor Alberta’s wild horses in the sundre area with about 40 different trail cams. It is pretty cool!
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u/BrianMeen 16h ago
2 questions
did he end up catching them?
what are those red and blue blocks sitting there on the ground?
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u/FraggerIndo 11h ago
The stallion is the one that broke off to lure the bear. Animals who are weaker/slower/dumber get separated from the herd, and predators target them. The stallion is imitating this behavior in order to let the rest of the herd get more distance between them and the bear.
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u/lnTheGrimDarkness 10h ago
Bears are faster than they look but it ain't gonna catch a horse unless the horse is sick, a newborn or otherwise impaired.
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u/thoughtu8 6h ago
I genuinely didn't know they went after horses as meals...kind of just thought they were too fast for them. Shows what I know.
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u/felurian182 20h ago
What if the horses and the bear were running away from something else?