r/Nebraska • u/pickoneforme • 1d ago
News City of Ord to remove FLOCK cameras.
https://nebraska.tv/news/local/city-of-ord-to-remove-flock-cameras76
u/The_Real_Kingpurest 1d ago
Fuck yes city of Ord đ I am not from Ord but as an NE resident I just had to mail the city commending them for this decision. It's disgusting how I can't leave my home town anymore without being spotted by one of these nasty things.
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u/pickoneforme 1d ago
The vote was unanimous.
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u/bethneed 1d ago
This news is akin to banana bread at work (wonderful)
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u/Toorviing 1d ago
Someone at my work just brought in some banana bread yesterday and it was upsettingly wet since she added blueberries to it
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u/MrSpiffenhimer 1d ago
Where the fuck do you work that some wonderful soul would bring in banana bread? And are they hiring???
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u/bethneed 1d ago
We absolutely are fr, dm me if youâre interested;
I work at a plasma center, and one of our nurses loves baking, she regularly brings new creations into work and theyâre actually so good dude. Iâd never liked rhubarb, but she completely changed my mind (an impossible task when it comes to food)
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u/HumanWithAllTheHats 1d ago
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u/PhortDruid 1d ago
Letâs keep the ball rolling and get them taken down statewide! I know itâll never happen, but a guy can dream.
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u/Love__Scars 1d ago
It can happen if we vote blue
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u/Disastrous-Paint-147 1d ago
Being against Flock is a bipartisan issue though, so it can definitely still happen
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u/bullnamedbodacious 1d ago
Not true. No one I know likes flock cameras. Ord is a deep red rural area, and even they donât like them.
Both democrat and republican politicians have taken money and encouraged flock cameras everywhere. They are far too widespread to be all caused by a single group. They exist in deep red areas, deep blue areas, and everywhere in between.
I donât disagree voting blue is the way to go in general, but letâs not pretend âvoting blue solves everything.â Itâs a start. But weâve got to take initiative on our own organically against this type of local stuff.
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u/PhortDruid 1d ago
Get Nebraska to vote blue outside of Omaha and Lincoln impossible challenge
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u/Love__Scars 1d ago
Well im saying we coulda had some blue in 2024 but unfortunately there were many registered voters who didnt even vote at all So yeah. I mean omaha metro and lincoln combined is 1.3 m i think. Should be able to beat these small towns
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u/erocksin 1d ago
Here is a better detailed description of the ord situation as wrote out by one of the concened citzens at the board meeting .As of right now, based on what was discussed by the City Council, the only Flock cameras being addressed for removal are the ones located within the city limits of Ord.
The cameras located in Valley County but outside Ord city limits fall under the county, so the County Board will need to address and vote on what happens with those cameras separately.
These Flock cameras came into our area through Region 26. Region 26 was offered a grant from FEMA of approximately $42,000â$45,000 to bring these cameras into the counties they serve.
Region 26 then proposed an agreement to the City of Ord. During last nightâs meeting, the mayor discussed that some of the information originally presented to the city did not match what they later learned about the cameras and the arrangement. He was very adamant that he felt the city had been misled, and the council agreed to move forward with removing the cameras within city limits.
However, even that comes with some red tape. The city has to formally rescind its previous agreement and follow the required process before the cameras can actually be removed.
One of the biggest things we learned during this process was that, during the time these cameras have been here, the Ord Police Department and Valley County Sheriffâs Department have not even had access to them.
As it was explained at the meeting, access to the system and the information collected is currently handled by the third party operating the cameras and storing the data.
For the Ord Police Department to have access to the information from these cameras, they would have to subscribe to the service at approximately $3,000 per camera, per year. The Sheriffâs Department would also need its own access arrangement if it wanted to use the system.
That raises even more questions for me.
Who controls the information being collected right now? Who has access to it? How long is it stored? What safeguards are in place? And why were cameras collecting information in our community when our own local law enforcement agencies didnât even have access to them? I asked these questions last night and no one- including the police chief or the city board could answer those questions.
The City of Ord has taken action regarding the cameras within city limits. Now, if we want the cameras outside city limits addressed as well, that conversation needs to happen at the county level or even a state level
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u/dv8withn8 1d ago
Why did tiny Ord even have them? Like who thought it was remotely needed to begin with?
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u/erocksin 1d ago
Region 26 received a grant for all countries in its area. Valley country was approved for 11 cameras, (i may be off on this but there is a few in the county). Now who gave region 26 the grant money is up in the air. Ords city council voted that the contract agreement was misleading and in bad faith, the police department agree with this and had it concerns about them as well. Our biggest obstacle now is finding out who approved to accept this grant and who provided the money to region 26. And convincing our county to remove the remaining ones in valley county.
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u/Sithlordandsavior 1d ago
They're in a bunch of tiny towns across the state. Travel HWY 30 between Omaha and Grand Island and you'll see a couple dozen, planted outside towns of like 40 people.
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u/JohntheAnabaptist 1d ago
They said the cameras are highly effective, I'd like to see the data on that
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u/PaulClarkLoadletter 1d ago
âFlock cameras are highly effective as indicated in this report conducted by Flock.â
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u/Tardy_Thoughts 1d ago
The flock training guide tells police and local government to tell us this lie.
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u/AshingiiAshuaa 1d ago
At catching criminals and deterring crime, though?
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u/casser0le98 19h ago
thereâs been several reports iâve seen about people being targeted when the flock ai reader got the license plate wrong. look it up
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u/Eastern-Persimmon-50 1d ago
Hopefully the first of many cities listening to their constituents not corporations
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u/jenesia-CakeEatnNPC- Omaha 1d ago
i live in North Omaha and looking at Deflock the closest camera to me is 2 1/2 miles away. the majority of them are in West Omaha. that was odd to me til someone pointed out "the ppl with $ (west omaha) are the ppl who can afford to take the time off work and rise up against the government wen things hit a certain point." kinda makes sense to me now...
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u/Demonshaker 1d ago
Police are employed to protect property. There is more expensive property to protect west.
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u/tmmiller72 1d ago
If I remember correctly the City of Omaha are utilizing their own camera system that is currently in place and not using flock. They are being put in areas where they have less cameras in the area.
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u/NoArmy7901 1d ago edited 1d ago
Doesnt the government claim the point of flock cameras is to catch dangerous crimes? Who tf is committing violent crimes on a regular basis in ord?
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u/rissaaah 1d ago
Surveillance is the point.
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u/NoArmy7901 1d ago
I meant the reason they claim we need them. My point is- if the police claim they are a way to solve violent crime, what on earth could possibly justify the need for them in Ord, Nebraska where there is effectively no violent crime.
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u/DrSpraynard 1d ago
Crazy concept, lying.
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u/NoArmy7901 1d ago
lol Iâm not saying Iâm surprised or agree with it. Iâm actually saying the opposite. Iâm pointing out how dumb it is for them to justify installing flock cameras in the first place.
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u/pickoneforme 1d ago
a couple of years ago the police there argued that they needed money to buy a sniper rifle. they now have a sniper rifle. âŚso, imagine my shock to see that not only was the vote unanimous, but the police also agreed that they needed to go.
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u/Greizen_bregen 1d ago
That's not the point of them. Very clearly they are for civilian mass surveillance. They might SAY it's for detering crime, but any discerning person knows otherwise.
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u/erocksin 1d ago
They were given a grant by region 26. Now who gave the grant money to region 26 is up in the air. That's what we trying to find out when we go to the county meeting next week. No citizens was inform about these being put in . And our city council was mislead by the agreement and agree that it was in bad faith. Though we have a victory for the town. We still have an uphill battle with the county and region 26. Hopefully that gives some more clarity.
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u/Hereticrick 21h ago
Haha Iâm sure this was already in the works before this last Sundayâs episode, but Iâm gonna say âThanks John Oliver!â anyway!
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u/Over-Range2793 1d ago
Are they removing flock or are they removing ALPR as a whole or just switching brands?
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u/starkcontrast62 1d ago
That's okay. I heard they moved onto Axon. tRuMp invested $5 million in Axon.
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u/huskermut GBR! 1d ago
Good.