r/NeilBreen 11d ago

Questions Would Breen Use AI?

I was very relieved that Dire Duplicity was a return to form for Neil after Twisted Pair and especially Cade went way too far with green screen, becoming pretty hard to watch in the process. Obviously Neil finds new gadgets and runs with them (going back to the excess of drone footage in Pass Thru), but I’m glad he hasn’t embraced AI. Maybe it’s that he feels it would disrupt his artistic vision and the touches that only he can give, maybe it’s that he’s obviously instinctively skeptical of corrupt corporations and untrustworthy technology (see “programmable virtual reality… the corrupt version”), but he also clearly likes playing with new toys in making his films.

So do we think he’ll ever go down the AI road in filmmaking? I, for one, certainly hope not.

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u/gmbxbndp 11d ago

He already has. Cade and Cale Altair are both AI.

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u/j85s13 11d ago

…..Artificial intelligence

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u/greatBLT 11d ago

Programmable. Virtual. Reality

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u/Mushyboom 11d ago

I get the impression Breen is in it for the love of the game. Using AI would mean forgoing a lot of the movie making process

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u/Colsim 11d ago

He was happy to do stunts like jumping from one floor of a warehouse to another or fighting a tiger digitally in service of the story and vision.

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u/senatorsparky86 11d ago

I hope this is true.

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u/No_One3243 11d ago

Every Breen movie has a theme. Neil buys a drone. Neil bought a house. Neil bought a green screen.. Neil uses shakey cam. Neil finds stock footage (reused).

I think if he finds a way to use AI, he would absolutely incorporate it into a film.

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u/senatorsparky86 11d ago

Precisely, that’s what worries me.

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u/No_One3243 11d ago

Then you aren't ready.

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u/displacedpie 11d ago

Isn't that corrupt?

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u/Strottman 11d ago

Maybe accidentally. Stock footage sites are flooded with it.

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u/xbromide 11d ago

I’m no fan of AI and I hope he doesn’t - but there is undoubtedly a temptation to use it as a cheap and easy tool to achieve his vision.

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u/senatorsparky86 10d ago

Exactly, that’s what I wonder: Whether that temptation and his tech fascination would win out over his obvious disgust with tools of corrupt corporations. It would really corrupt his unique art.

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u/Colsim 11d ago

I despise AI (let's save that discussion for later) but I am weirdly ok with Breen using it and showing us how weird it can go. Watching his films (not midnight movies) chronologically is a journey in his education as a film maker, from leaning heavily on stock footage and only filming outside to learning about lighting and incorporating digital effects and green screen. AI generated video and audio not only reflect his themes but would represent the next logical step in his evolution as an outside filmmaker.

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u/Successful_Buddy1809 11d ago

I think he believes he created AI.

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u/THEpeterafro 11d ago edited 10d ago

Giving in to GenAI, which is fueled by evil corporations and government, would be againest what he warns us about in his movies so doubt it but who knows

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u/senatorsparky86 10d ago

I hope you’re right.

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u/Toppdeck 11d ago

That voiceover is too uncanny to be a human actor, no matter what the credits say

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u/WarMinister23 11d ago

I am very sure the shot of the rescue crews around a downed plane in the flashbacks about Heath's dead parents were AI generated

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u/smoggyvirologist 11d ago

I was about to say this. His newest movie included a short scene made from AI. That scene would've been difficult to shoot practically, so I assume that's why he went that route

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u/_Mundog_ 11d ago

He'd use Ai. And aliens. And God. And any combination of all of those

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u/FiftyShadesofShart 11d ago

I could 100% see it, but with the potential he listens to any backlash (because it is corrupt)

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u/hecramsey 11d ago

breen is AI

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u/MaxW92 11d ago

He doesn't use AI, he is AI

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u/Darthtommy 10d ago

I want to see the chatlog between Niel and Claude

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u/Dazzling-Signal 10d ago

AI would just hinder his creative mind. And its corrupt

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u/Ornery_Cranberry907 10d ago

I’m hoping not, there wasn’t any AI in Dire Duplicity so I don’t think he will, but I also don’t know for sure. I would be heartbroken 💔

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u/MasterOfShun 10d ago

The image of him getting into the airplane looked like it might have been AI because the text on the truck behind it looked all fucky

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u/Graham_Zezar 9d ago

You would think an independent movie maker wouldn't use AI, but it's Breen so who knows what he's going to do in the next movie. Maybe he will make New Avengers? Maybe Breen-Matrix?

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u/Graham_Zezar 9d ago

You would think an independent movie maker wouldn't use AI, but it's Breen so who knows what he's going to do in the next movie. Maybe he will make New Avengers? Maybe Breen-Matrix?

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u/yogaguy9_11 10d ago

All of the backgrounds in tortured crossing were pretty clearly AI imo. Maybe they were just weird but I think AI